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To think these comments are homophobic?

154 replies

TooFullToCare · 21/08/2022 00:05

I’ve started seeing someone (likely for not much longer).

We were discussing what each of us were doing for bank holiday a few weeks back and I’m going to Brighton to see a friend. He commented that he didn’t like Brighton and then asked that’s the gay capital right? I said it was and is there a problem with that?

He said no but it’s very liberal there and he doesn’t like it in his face.

Ok …..

And today I was saying how I want to see Queen, he said he loves Bohemia Rhapsody. I commented did he not like any others? So I stated listing them and I said “I want to break free” - and he said no definitely not that, I asked if it’s because he’s dressed as a woman in the video. He retorted no but it’s about how he wants to break free …

Whatever that means. I’m on the fence with him anyway but this has sealed it for me I think.

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StaunchMomma · 28/08/2022 14:57

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 14:00

Ffs, women are a nightmare for this crap. Allow the poor bloke to be a heterosexual. It is kinda defined by not wanting the other stuff. He doesn't 'have' to like any of it or to go anywhere it is very dominant. Tolerance and reasonableness is all that is required.

Mind you, it is clear you would aggressively undermine him at every turn longterm, parenting etc so he needs to escape, pronto.

FFS, just let blokes be blokes, yeah! Being a heterosexual means being a it of a dickhead so just accept it!!

And let them make all the decisions cus they know better 🙄

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 15:08

StaunchMomma · 28/08/2022 14:57

FFS, just let blokes be blokes, yeah! Being a heterosexual means being a it of a dickhead so just accept it!!

And let them make all the decisions cus they know better 🙄

I think men can make decisions on what they find comfortable and want to be around rather than pander to their rabid activist girlfriends who are misguidedly allied where their interests don't lie. But yeah, wrongthink.

Firty · 28/08/2022 15:15

I don’t think it’s homophobic to dislike Brighton’s obsession with promoting gay sex in public spaces. The penis bollards were particularly gross, and I’m not a fan of them changing the proposed giant ferris wheel into a ring that slides up and down a giant phallic symbol, either. Plus their assumption rainbow = gay gets annoying, people kept congratulating my toddler DS on the rainbow on his tshirt. I don’t want strange men chatting up my toddler.

It would be weird to not like Queen, but he just said Bohemian Rhapsody is his favourite musical?

Sounds like an argument over nothing tbh. If you wanna break up, break up 🤷‍♀️you sound like hard work to me.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 15:15

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 14:55

😁So he doesn't want to go to Brighton and is uneasy with overt homosexual stuff, so dump the evil bastard for sacrilege - he has wrongthink, case closed.

Would you dismiss it as ‘wrongthink’ if he didn’t want to go somewhere because it had a big black or Asian population?

allinatizzy · 28/08/2022 15:31

He's allowed to have opinions, even opinions that aren't politically correct. But clearly you find his opinions distasteful, so yes, it's best to end it and find someone whose views more closely align with your own.

rwalker · 28/08/2022 15:31

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 10:38

Not liking a place because it has a high gay population is homophobic.

I’ve got gay friends that won’t go to canal st/northern quarter in Manchester they hate it
guess they must be homophonic as well

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 15:37

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 15:15

Would you dismiss it as ‘wrongthink’ if he didn’t want to go somewhere because it had a big black or Asian population?

Whut? It absolutely depends on whether the environment was hostile and whether there was really anything of interest there to him. You don't half conflate issues. It's just derailment.

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 15:44

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 15:08

I think men can make decisions on what they find comfortable and want to be around rather than pander to their rabid activist girlfriends who are misguidedly allied where their interests don't lie. But yeah, wrongthink.

Not having a problem with gay people == rabid activist.

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 15:44

allinatizzy · 28/08/2022 15:31

He's allowed to have opinions, even opinions that aren't politically correct. But clearly you find his opinions distasteful, so yes, it's best to end it and find someone whose views more closely align with your own.

nobody on this thread has said he can't have opinions ffs

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 15:46

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 15:44

Not having a problem with gay people == rabid activist.

Well, you're just part of the screaming mob sidelines, not really the forefront, but yeah same thing. He'd be well rid.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 15:50

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 15:37

Whut? It absolutely depends on whether the environment was hostile and whether there was really anything of interest there to him. You don't half conflate issues. It's just derailment.

So why is Brighton a ‘hostile environment’?

ZombieLIfe · 28/08/2022 15:58

Simonjt · 28/08/2022 06:48

Thats because there a lot of homophobes on MN.

I’ve been here ten years and the only homophobic comments I have seen are those trying to argue that gay and lesbian does not mean same sex attracted.

I’ve also not seen anyone be against men in dresses. I have seen lots of comments saying men should be able to wear dresses and regard them as ‘their’ clothes rather than women’s clothes. There’s is a lot of support here for men who want to ‘break free’ from masculinity stereotypes, by dressing as they please.

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 16:02

ZombieLIfe · 28/08/2022 15:58

I’ve been here ten years and the only homophobic comments I have seen are those trying to argue that gay and lesbian does not mean same sex attracted.

I’ve also not seen anyone be against men in dresses. I have seen lots of comments saying men should be able to wear dresses and regard them as ‘their’ clothes rather than women’s clothes. There’s is a lot of support here for men who want to ‘break free’ from masculinity stereotypes, by dressing as they please.

Really? I see homophobic comments on here all the time.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 16:11

rwalker · 28/08/2022 15:31

I’ve got gay friends that won’t go to canal st/northern quarter in Manchester they hate it
guess they must be homophonic as well

There’s a very big difference between being gay but non-scene and avoiding an entire city because it has a sizeable gay population.

rwalker · 28/08/2022 16:44

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 16:11

There’s a very big difference between being gay but non-scene and avoiding an entire city because it has a sizeable gay population.

Brighton is recognised as the gay capital of the uk .
so
if you go there it’s obviously gay orientated

so as a straight person non scene he doesn’t want to go
if you are visiting brighton chances are you’d be going to the centre not out lying housing estates

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 16:46

rwalker · 28/08/2022 16:44

Brighton is recognised as the gay capital of the uk .
so
if you go there it’s obviously gay orientated

so as a straight person non scene he doesn’t want to go
if you are visiting brighton chances are you’d be going to the centre not out lying housing estates

The majority of people in Brighton are still straight. And even if they weren't, why would a straight person not want to be around gay people if they're not homophobic?

rwalker · 28/08/2022 16:51

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 16:46

The majority of people in Brighton are still straight. And even if they weren't, why would a straight person not want to be around gay people if they're not homophobic?

Same reason as my gay friends don’t go to canal st

Bloodoranged · 28/08/2022 16:59

rwalker · 28/08/2022 16:51

Same reason as my gay friends don’t go to canal st

So your "gay friends" don't go to canal Street because there's gay people there?

rwalker · 28/08/2022 17:09

it’s not about orientation it’s the scene he doesn’t like
it’s like if you go to Blackpool the gay quarter by Blackpool north train station is very loud proud in your face music blasting drag bars funny girl drag show bars when there’s a cruising areas I’m guessing that’s the type of thing he doesn’t like not gay people

drbuzzaro · 28/08/2022 17:11

rwalker · 28/08/2022 17:09

it’s not about orientation it’s the scene he doesn’t like
it’s like if you go to Blackpool the gay quarter by Blackpool north train station is very loud proud in your face music blasting drag bars funny girl drag show bars when there’s a cruising areas I’m guessing that’s the type of thing he doesn’t like not gay people

it's sad that there is yet another thread of straight people trying to explain away homophobia

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 17:20

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 28/08/2022 15:50

So why is Brighton a ‘hostile environment’?

Eh?? It's not! But he doesn't want to go there!

Lords you people are so oppressive and tyrannical. The laughable thing is you all think you're freedom fighters.

catfunk · 28/08/2022 17:23

Maybe not but it's certainly not a gay-friendly is 'transphobic' as TRAs in Brighton has said themselves) or a woman-friendly place.
Again @CatsandFish supposing what you are saying is true - Brighton is a city, not a person. Thousands of people with differing views and behaviours make up a city. You're making no sense.

hyperbyke · 28/08/2022 17:26

excitingusername · 28/08/2022 17:20

Eh?? It's not! But he doesn't want to go there!

Lords you people are so oppressive and tyrannical. The laughable thing is you all think you're freedom fighters.

Saying things on an Internet forum you don't like is neither oppressive not tyrannical.

If your feelings are being hurt maybe go and do something else.

Anewdayanewdawn · 28/08/2022 17:30

‘From what I've read of Brighton’

nothing like ‘reading’ about a city ( though cos knows where you’ve be reading) to write off an entire city!!

Anewdayanewdawn · 28/08/2022 17:31

‘The majority of people in Brighton are still straight. And even if they weren't, why would a straight person not want to be around gay people if they're not homophobic?’

yup!