DH has completely changed

[GeorgiaDe]

My DH has completely altered his worldview/ opinion over the last few years. It was gradual, and only now am I coming to realise the full extent of it. We've been together for 15 years.

He believes in the great reset, believes there will be a nuclear war, covid is a hoax and the vaccines are killing people. He's stockpiled around £3k worth of food/ camping equipment/ knives. Our spare room is full of this stuff. He's also invested thousands into cryptocurrency.

He believes that inflation is all part of the "plan" and all the world leaders are "in on it" together.

I can't take it anymore. He disrespects my opinion by continuing to talk about it daily, even when I've expressed that I do not share the same opinion and don't want to argue about it. He tells me that "I will see when the time comes."

Every time there's news of a celebrity death/ unexplained death of a young person, he blames the covid vaccine. He threatened to leave me if I got it, although changed his mind when I made clear how serious I was.

Aibu to feel at the end of my tether? It's so draining.

Well his thousands in crypto is virtually worthless now if he recently invested but that will bring out all the crypto bro's and is whole other thread. It's the different cheek of the same arse of the rabbit hole some go down, you see it on here all the same, the mutliple threads as to how a global situation is somehow the fault of the tories/brexit.

However you should be careful with framing the great reset around a conspiracy theory angle.

It's not really a conspiracy theory when the WEF have an explanation of their agenda on their websites, the power to execute said agenda, would personally greatly profit from said agenda and reading the news, you see said agenda in progress as WEF is a members-only NGO funded by private corporations that stand to benefit from the policies they encourage their members to adopt.

www.opendemocracy.net/en/oureconomy/conspiracy-theories-aside-there-something-fishy-about-great-reset/

It might help to apply some critical thinking and offer alternative talking points instead of just dismissing him as being out of hand because it hasn't had the required number of retweets yet.

The royal family have never been known for their superior intelligence. Why anyone would think they are part of a global conspiracy is beyond me.

Or in fact why they would need to!!!

Sympathies and very sensible post.

Most of the people I know who are like this also smoke copious amounts of weed.
I curse whichever one said you'll own nothing and be happy because it now regularly comes up in conversation. Great reset, cashless society, social credit and so on.
I tend to counter my DP wandering into this with: what do you expect me to do? Occasionally I like to point out that the ruling elite/NWO/reptiles would be able to remove videos from YouTube if they were getting near 'The Truth'.
Flippant as that may sound you need to consider whether to split or come to an agreement that he has his views and you yours but it will not be a constant discussion (or more like tedious monologue about whatever some eejit said on YouTube).

It's so hard when someone you thought you knew changes so much, you're left wondering if you have anything in common anymore.
My best friend has gone down the anti-vax, conspiracy bollocks route since the pandemic. She was always a bit woo, into reiki healing crystal auras and flower essences (all stuff I thought was nice and harmless), but now she's against any sort of medicine, thinks anyone who got vaccinated or wore a mask is an idiot, and all sorts of other stuff I try and block out.

We have come to a point where we agree to disagree, I don't want to fight with her, she would just say 'read this website' or 'look at this scientific evidence' (usually from an obscure blog or something). She knows I don't agree but we manage to trundle on.
She's had a difficult few years (before Covid), and I somehow think it makes her feel more in control or something. I think she couldn't bear the idea of lockdown and not being allowed to do what she wanted, which maybe we all felt a bit.

I love her, I really do but it's exhausting. I can feel us drifting apart a bit, which is sad, but I just don't want to listen to it anymore.

The thing is, I do agree that some mainstream media sometimes has an agenda, and overmedicating people is problematic - but it's huge leap from that to Hilary Clinton and her posse of lizard people are running the planet.

I'm sorry OP, sympathies.

Sounds just like my ex father in law. Is he very right wing? I do wonder how they get into this rabbit hole in the first place.

It has got so much worse since Covid- although I do think much of that was utterly bizarre and nonsensical so I do sort of understand why things like this have gained momentum. It makes sense of very odd times to some people.

OP, how long are you prepared to stay with your DH? What would make you leave? I only ask these questions as I can’t imagine he will start to see the world from a more ‘rational’ perspective at any point soon.

He sounds fanatical to me and I can imagine his beliefs are only going to grow stronger, and along with this, his actions more extreme.

All I can say is, it is on the world economic forums website under covid 19. It is fully explained what they are doing for the reset!! Including the gas & electric prices, food shortages (check out what they're doing in Belgium). It also explains the reason why they're pushing the gender ideology & diversity & it is to break down current culture and divide us enough that we don't unite. I'm not a conspiracy person at all but it is all there & it is scary. The global currency is to ensure they have full control so they can control what people buy such as red meat, electric cars so they can be controlled & turned off remotely. It isn’t all fantasy just like I thought a lot of the covid stuff was crazy conspiracy & it’s now been proven. 40.000 deaths direct result of the vaccine & and a significant increase in sudden adult death syndrome. The evidence is there & if people continue to dismiss if they’ll have a shock! Oh and they make it clear that human rights will be removed when people start protesting against it.

Have you any idea how boring it is for someone who isnt obsessive about whether it is or isnt happening, whether it is or isnt a conspiracy etc etc

These people are monologues, they only have one topic in their head, they are intense, insistent and obsessed.

Thats no life for the OP

I think there is a great reset looming into view but it's not planned. It's just the convergence of a variety of civilisation changing factors which will result in the biggest shit show mankind has ever dealt with.

There is already discussions about Putin using smallish nuclear warheads soon'ish, he's readying up. He wants resources and he will take them by force. We know there are fuel wars building and building. The water shortages have begun, large scale fires which will be the perfect 'tipping point' for climate change are raging, the mass exodus of people across the globe started a few years ago and will increase dramatically with climate change. It is the beginning of the end. But you all know that right?

I'd be glad he's prepping even if his conspiracy theory is a bit off target - he's definitely right to be getting ready for the big reset. Hold on to your seats - the next 50 years is gonna be the roughest ride yet!

Depressing to see how many people are suggesting the OP just continue to try to keep the peace by avoiding talking about it.

That is not an answer. These conspiracy theories all lead one way - towards extreme far-right, racist violence. It's just a question of how long it will take him to get there. There's nothing cute or cuddly about these theories. Icke and Alex Jones etc espouse far right neo-Nazi views.

These aren't views that by their nature are happy to co-exist with normal views. No-one should be turning a blind eye to this or try to live alongside it.

These views are highly dangerous for the OP and highly dangerous for our society.

I couldn't stay married to someone who has clearly fallen down the rabbit hole of the far right conspiracy theories.

Get legal advice. Get your hands on as many of the marital assets as you can and ensure you know where it is as you pursue what you (and any DCs) will be entitled to. Get out while you have assets you can save for yourself and your own future.

Ive got to say, the people that I know of this tendency are all very left wing

Although I always think the extreme left and extreme right more or less meet in the middle

I agree, the knife stash is worrying though.

Ah, I see your OP's learnt how to namechange, OP.

Tell him to get off MN.

That sounds like such a difficult situation to be in. If I were in your shoes, there is no way I could stay married to someone with such loony beliefs. He sounds like the sort who says he does his own "research" which consists of watching YouTube videos and reading blogs by conspiracy theorists. That isn't research.

I'm always amazed that in the current moment, when discovering facts is easier than it has ever been, that so many people have swallowed the wildest, most absurd ideas hook, line, and sinker.

Yes and of course when OP comes to tell him that they are finished, she will be now 'one of them' and 'against him'

So the risk increases to her, however prevent isnt for person on person risk. Hopefully she can make some good safe plans

I totally agree. Critical thinking seems to have gone out of the window these days. The mainstream media have proven they’re corrupt. Currently we are in a serious cost of living crisis and recently Ive seen headlines saying “mouldy food isn’t bad for us”, “we don’t need to drink as much water as we have been told”, “it’s good for humans to go hungry sometimes”. All the pro Liz truss headlines are totally crazy the only support she is suggesting is remove the national insurance tax increase and this will save families 76p a month. I totally despair for the poorer people in our community if we carry on wearing blooming blinkers on dismissing everything as a conspiracy. Have people seen the what they will replace the human rights with? The new bill of rights is atrocious and totally inhumane. I do not believe in lizard people but I do believe we have people who want more control and have seen now after covid that we will all just go along with it.

I wouldn’t see it as a ‘great reset’ because it’s not obvious what you would reset it to. It’s just a period of instability looming. These periods have happened in the past and they will happen again in the future. We just got a bit cosy with our industrial lifestyles for a while, and it’s coming as a shock to many people to discover that unpredictability is something we will increasingly have to live with. But we need to remember that we are all descended from the survivors of previous periods of instability, so we shouldn’t fret unduly, even if it does mean adapting our way of life faster than we might really like.

Yup

@EatAllDay Am a research scientist. If I had kids in that age bracket I would want them to be vaccinated, as do all the collegues I know.

You're cherry picking something that backs up your view, and ignoring everything that does not. That particular "1 in 6" stat has led to the authors themselves stating how their study has been misinterpreted on SM.

We need critical thinking to be prioritised in schools IMO.

They think they're left-wing. In reality, far-left and far-right do indeed meet in the middle. So what matters is that they are all anti-democratic violent extremists. Whether they justfy it by claiming to follow Stalin or Hitler, Piers Corbyn or David Dukes, makes no matter. They're all the same.

Oh dear , sounds very familiar. I’m sorry you are going through this. He clearly has Mental health issues. Unfortunately there is absolutely nothing you can do if he refuses to accept there is a problem. Call MIND, I found them to be sympathetic and gave practical advice. I would also recommend you see a therapist - it is a difficult situation to deal with, I made the decision to go non contact in the end.

@GeorgiaDe

What do his friends think? Does he have any other relatives who could be helpful?

I'd be tempted to sit down with them and try one last ditch attempt to pull him out of this, if you can do it safely.

You are completely within your rights to walk away, it must be exhausting. I had only 5 days of this from a plumber and was ready to leap out the window to make an quick exit after a couple of hours.

My parents and brother are the same. My brother is highly educated and some of the stuff he comes out with makes him sound like a complete knob. I don’t disagree with everything they say and some stuff is interesting but it’s constant and intense so much so I avoid phoning or talking to any of them.

Without wanting to derail the thread. You realise that everything we have in the UK at the moment is what people voted for?

We live in a democracy and people voted for this, voted for Brexit which allows the UK to change/opt out of the human rights act to some degree, voted for governments for years in the country which makes the poor poorer

So in what way is any of this forced on people. We the great british public voted for this. Theres no consipracy, theres no 'control'.