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Little Britain

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tallulahhula33 · 19/08/2022 17:13

Just seen an interesting discussion on Twitter regarding Little Britain and how damaging it was to minority groups in the UK. I must admit I liked it at the time (I was a teenager) but can't understand how they got away with it now. And I don't think I've ever seen them apologise for it?

There was the disabled guy pretending to be disabled.
The old lady who threw up when she found out anyone foreign had baked the cake and she was eating.
The university secretary who used blatant racist language.
Also transphobic/homophobic issues.

Were they perhaps double bluffing by poking fun at the views of people who for example think all disabled people are fakers? Or was it really that offensive? It definitely wouldn't be aired now but it wasn't really all that long ago. And Walliams and Lucas are still very much in the public eye.

OP posts:
Bubblebubblebah · 20/08/2022 08:03

Re the comeuppance... There doesn't have to be super obvious one. It's a show for adults who should not need results explained like if they are 4 year old watching Disney film...
Or maybe some do...

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/08/2022 08:04

DdraigGoch · 20/08/2022 01:35

Sir Norman Fry is bang up to date, you can just imagine him standing at the gate reading a statement: "I was in the House researching agricultural machinery and I accidentally..."

Transwidows will recognise Emily Howard too, when the US cop asks for marital status:
[Girly voice] "Many proposals from eligible gentlemen, but I don't have a ring on my finger just yet!"
[Cop gives an impatient look]
[Gruff voice] "Wife and three kids"

We've all had customer service that Carol Beer would be proud of, and conversely been faced with a customer like Mr Mann; Dafydd would be "the only non-binary in the village" these days, at least until everyone was using "they/them" pronouns and he wasn't so special and unique anymore; stage mothers are definitely a thing, living out their own dreams through their child; and the "bitty" character isn't too far removed from one or two of the mummy's boys featured in AIBU threads over the years.

I’ve just remember another character - the batshit crazy B&B owner who talks in riddles and pays the pan pipes (but he’s not actually playing 😂) - we’ve all been to a guest house run by a total oddball!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/08/2022 08:05

UndertheCedartree · 20/08/2022 02:46

The characters did get their comeuppance. For example with Marjorie Dawes the other members of the slimming group would be rolling their eyes and sticking up for the Asian lady.

Well yes many of us have pointed out that their misery and hypocrisy IS a commupence bit a PP wanted them all to be stood up to in a Lifetime Movie type way and because that didn’t happen the show is making fun of back people rather than racists Hmm

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/08/2022 08:09

avamiah · 20/08/2022 03:22

Let’s be honest it was outrageous but it was funny and very successful.

Just going off thread a bit, but The Inbetweeners was on tv earlier a few back to back episodes and I had actually forgotten how X rated it was.It was just nonstop talking about _ock and sex and I personally found it more offensive than Little Britain.

Yes I rewatched too recently, it’s a much more recent show and the sexism, ableism and homophobia is really, really explicit not to mention the endless objectification of women. Still laughed my head off though - it’s another show where the joke is on the characters too as they’re saddos who can’t get the ultimate prize - getting laid.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/08/2022 08:12

Bubblebubblebah · 20/08/2022 08:03

Re the comeuppance... There doesn't have to be super obvious one. It's a show for adults who should not need results explained like if they are 4 year old watching Disney film...
Or maybe some do...

I really think they do. It seems like every single piece of comedy needs to play to the lowest common denominator

Bubblebubblebah · 20/08/2022 08:14

Adversity · 20/08/2022 01:20

Well I fit in with one of the groups that’s stereotyped and I did find it funny.

I don't think I personally know anyone who would hate the whole thing and is from one of the groups featured.

There of course will be some, that's fine, people do look at things bit differently. I do wonder if the difference is that most of mine were not growing up here.

Anyhooo. I am quite confident there is some of the "white English saviour" going on here with some posters because that's the type who shouts down even minorities and people who did experience racism, xenophobia and discrimination when they disagree with something being offensive and harmful.

To conclude and then I am leaving this because everything what could have been said was said (I will get roped back in, won't I)😁 It was funny, it was taking punches and hypocrites, some parts were iffy and they apologised for them. Thanks for the come fly with us recommendations 😂

And it's Tong Ting from Tooting actually 😁

CornishGem1975 · 20/08/2022 08:24

People overthink this stuff. Take the old lady who vomits the cake...isn't that meant to say more about her and how small minded she is rather than the person who made the cake?!

Ponoka7 · 20/08/2022 08:52

@Bubblebubblebah
"Well pumper is right. It is punching down. Racists are pretty down on the ladder of intelligence"

Except they aren't. Racists come with all levels of intelligence. Or are you saying that there's never been anyone in government, a doctor, scientist etc who has been racist? Or that most people who have low intelligence, which include those who have LD's are naturally racist?

Hobbesmanc · 20/08/2022 09:01

The satire is much more evident in the original radio 4 show . Tom Baker is perfect as the narrator. There's much more surrealism.

I think it went a lot downhill after the first series. Too much gross out humour

I remember being a little taken aback by Williams in blackface and apparently those sketches have been edited.

KimberleyClark · 20/08/2022 09:16

UndertheCedartree · 20/08/2022 03:21

People in the group did call it out.

Marjorie was also caught in the supermarket by some of her group filling up her basket with biscuits and cakes. There again a comeuppance.

PrincessPit · 20/08/2022 09:29

And the fact she was disliked by the whole group. There's no way it can be argued that the show is racist for portraying a racist, when the show clearly portrays how rude, unlikeable and insecure she is.

Fizbosshoes · 20/08/2022 09:37

Sir Norman Fry is bang up to date, you can just imagine him standing at the gate reading a statement: "I was in the House researching agricultural machinery and I accidentally..."

They were some of my favourite sketches.

Pussycat22 · 20/08/2022 09:49

For crying out loud!

JustDanceAddict · 20/08/2022 09:56

It was a mainly a piss take on those who held racist, homophobic views.

matt Lucas has said he regrets some of the characters - blacking up etc.
i loved it!

LindaFlint · 20/08/2022 10:29

The university secretary who used blatant racist language.

Not to be pedantic but Linda is a university counsellor.

KimberleyClark · 20/08/2022 10:39

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/08/2022 08:04

I’ve just remember another character - the batshit crazy B&B owner who talks in riddles and pays the pan pipes (but he’s not actually playing 😂) - we’ve all been to a guest house run by a total oddball!

oh gosh yes - he was Scottish wasn't he. The funny thing he did seem pretty good at it - the guests thought he was some typical quaint Scottish character.

sst1234 · 20/08/2022 13:31

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 19/08/2022 22:29

Yea, I think this poster is expecting a sketch show to be loaded with Hollywood movie moments. When some of us can recognise that the fact that all the antagonists were pretty miserable and total hypocrites, as ‘having their commupence’.

Unfortunately many people’s intellect doesn’t stretch far enough to understand nuance. They want the blurb to go along with the sketch to explain exactly what’s going on.

Deadringer · 20/08/2022 13:52

CornishGem1975 · 20/08/2022 08:24

People overthink this stuff. Take the old lady who vomits the cake...isn't that meant to say more about her and how small minded she is rather than the person who made the cake?!

Yes but how many variations of that sketch can you watch before it's no longer funny. It was so repetitive.

Trinity65 · 20/08/2022 14:35

LadyCampanulaTottington · 19/08/2022 17:24

Woke is killing comedy.

THIS

YABU Op
And somewhat Goady
We are not Borg !
Fed up of Woke .

Trinity65 · 20/08/2022 14:37

Oh PS
Back in the day Lenny Henry mocked the Chinese , and others, in his Sketeches .
Or is it ok as he is Black ?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 20/08/2022 16:45

@Trinity65 i presume that would be ‘punching sideways’ according to the people here who are obsessed in which direction comedians punch

lot123 · 20/08/2022 16:52

I found some characters funnier than others (really didn't like Bubbles) but thought Vicky Pollard was highly amusing.

I also it was meant to be a reverse about prejudice amongst Little Britainers.

JKRowlingDevilWoman · 20/08/2022 16:59

LadyCampanulaTottington · 19/08/2022 17:24

Woke is killing comedy.

1000 times this.

The woke collective are just as ignorant as the racist, small minded section of society that LB was poking fun at. It's surely not long before we get a Woke Britain sketch show.

PoseyFlump · 20/08/2022 18:45

Agree @JKRowlingDevilWoman like Titania McGrath on Twitter.

WhereYouLeftIt · 21/08/2022 12:32

"The woke collective are just as ignorant as the racist, small minded section of society that LB was poking fun at. It's surely not long before we get a Woke Britain sketch show."

Tracey Ullman got there already.

https://missliberty.com/overly-woke-support-group-with-tracey-ullman/

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