To think Brexit has robbed us of so much?

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A friend of mine from America recently obtained citizenship of an EU country due to family links. She's now ready to look for a job and open to anything as she doesn't have a degree but worked in the family agricultural business back home. She's fluent in English.

A few years ago I would have been able to invite her to stay with me here in the UK, help her get established and set her up to apply for one of the many jobs over here. But now I can't do any of that.

The ridiculous part is I know local businesses that are really struggling to recruit, can't find people locally and have struggled with the lack of EU workers since Brexit. Particularly in hospitality, agriculture and travel.

Why did we close the door to people who filled these vacancies and contributed to society and paid taxes?

She would have been a decent tax payer, nice member of the community but she's not allowed in.

She's probably going to Ireland now as apparently there's lots more opportunities there since we became an isolated island.

I will never forgive the Conservatives for this shambles. Don't get me started on the fact that a British passport is now worthless and we've lost our right to live in 27 countries. Madness.

This article by the London Economic explains it for you.

The same people against Brexit would have been against the end of apartheid in South Africa, or the end of Slavery in the US

Just when you think you've read the most moronic, skewed, batshit crap about Brexit, another gem rolls sparkling down the hill of the sunny uplands.

Where to start unpacking that fucker.

The same leaflets that said the vote was binding also advised that the government thought staying in the EU was best for the country. Both major parties were clearly in favour of remain and vastly underestimated the depth of feeling their was against the EU, plus the amount of people who would vote in the referendum who had rarely if ever voted in a general election. I don't think we'd have had a chance of having the referendum if Cameron and his advisors had thought leave winning was even a remote possibility.

Very interesting some people having the absolute cheek to compare remain voters to people upholding apartheid.

Was my Facebook and Twitter pre referendum full of working class people and telegraph/express readers going on about needing more Indians and Phillipinos here because they were very open minded people and we seemed to have a lot of white westerners in from Poland, Spain, Lithuania etc and not enough people from rest of world?? No it was absolutely full of hideous posts going on about Islam, 'Pakis (sic) Muslims, Africans, Afghans, Iraqis -pictures of bulldogs , this all had Jack shit to do with the EU and economics but hey never let a nice bit of racism get in the way of making a vote based on British exceptionalism and over confidence with no consideration whatsoever towards actual economics .

The people on here talking about apartheid- -- if you think racism wasn't a factor in people voting leave - you need to get out more and voting leave when you had many 'leave' people saying it wasn't about leaving the single market wasn't voting on known terms. Democracy would have been offering a second referendum prior to kicking in the withdrawal year and with known terms!! Try watching the TV vox pops pre referendum of the man on Mansfield market who didn't have an issue with polish people- 'good people, workhard -'it's those Muslims I have a problem with'

Most people who voted remain don't give a shit where people working here were from , so long as they had the rights to do so- they do however want business to work , the country to function well, imports and exports to function and arrangements to be reciprocal. With the EU it was reciprocal- they can benefit, so can we - with US, Australia etc it is not reciprocal . Why should they all be able to move, work, live here easily - unless we can do the same- ??

It doesn't matter what you explain to Leavers, on specific points, they were right, even when clearly wrong.

Whether its on the referendum being held under "Advisory rules" or employment law.

The same leaflets that said the vote was binding also advised that the government thought staying in the EU was best for the country. Both major parties were clearly in favour of remain and vastly underestimated the depth of feeling their was against the EU foreigners

FTFU

Very interesting some people having the absolute cheek to compare remain voters to people upholding apartheid.

You have more patience than I do. I look forward to victims of apartheid coming on here to convince me that the poster making that point isn't full of shit. Although since that's a synonym for Breixteers and their twisted creed, I shouldn't be surprised.

Our neighbour kindly took us in when Mum was in custody. A reminder there are decent folk out there, hiding amongst the people who want drones to shoot dinghies in the channel.

@SerendipityJane there are lots of decent people out there- some really horrible folk too. I do appreciate everyone can vote how they want and the fact we have a Tory gvt in with a big majority shows me that our voting system is fucked when more people voted against them than for them (just that the vote to the right isn't split)

However I think the tide is turning and initially I think it's turning in a lot of places with one nation conservatives, they aren't liking this anti EU, anti small business, UKIP type of conservatism aimed at appeasing the Alf garnets of the world (because there's lots of em and they vote) -they have pissed off many involved in farming and fishing with their total lies and also a lot of entrepreneurial types who had little cottage industries with a good bit of exporting. Brexit is a disaster for them commercially. Not leaving out of course their 'huge untendered contracts for mates' - vast amounts of wasting money on various covid related stuff etc- again for mates and fining people for doing what they were doing themselves.
I think they are going to lose a hell of a lot of Home Counties and southern half of the UK votes and seats to the Lib Dems and 'some' red wall seats back to labour.

There's an awful lot who voted this way because they liked 'good old Boris' - I don't think they will warm to Liz Truss one iota and looks like it will be her.

I'm fairly confident Labour will win the next election regardless of who becomes the new PM. But not if Labour start going on about rejoining the EU. That is a total vote loser.

@Florenz personally I would say bugger all about it and look to join EEA within 18 months -but then I'm not on the same side if this argument as yourself and I'm a crafty bugger!! Country would boom and by that point most people wouldn't give a shit

I agree. I'm no Labour supporter but if people actually vote in a party after the last few years of constant scandal and lies then I despair.

Me again. Just waited 40 minutes to get through the other passport queue at an EU airport while all the Europeans whisked through the automated border in 20 seconds. Absolute joke to think people actually voted for this and politicians sold it to us as something of benefit.

I'm going to purchase a pro EU passport cover in protest. Petty and insignificant I know but petty protests are all we have left when the majority of our fellow UK citizens continue to vote for a Conservative government that has done nothing but sabotage us and strip our rights for the past decade while lying to us the whole time.