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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

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Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

OP posts:
DaughterofDawn · 16/08/2022 02:33

I would definitely draw the line at them assaulting your own children and damaging your things. I don’t typically resort to suggesting these types of solutions but I think you need to give your partner an ultimatum. Either he only brings over his kid. No kids or it’s not going to work out… Especially since he’s putting in no effort to make sure your home is respected. It sounds like you’re very much getting used. It also sounds like the money problems his ex left him with might have also been partially his own doing…

DaughterofDawn · 16/08/2022 02:37

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:55

Me and my children are completely fine just angry now. We are very close and they enjoyed other kids company at first so I wrongly let their rudeness towards the grownups slide. It was just bad behaviour that I was trying to deal with and the parents kept trying to down play it because honestly I’ve been very lucky with my children they’re very behaved so didn’t know if it was normal like they were manipulating me into thinking.

The drawing blood was from scratching - I’m still not ok with that at all but physically they are fine, just shocked. The child went straight home, I would never let them be around that. Being rude to me yes I’ve let it go on for too long but being rude and abusive to my children I think it’s clear I’m not tolerating that. I’m kicking him out tonight.

Thank you for all your comments and advice, said what I knew already but needed to hear it from other people I guess.

You go girl. I’m proud of you for standing up for your little ones… I know it was hard choice.

Chilesstanton · 16/08/2022 02:46

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user1484512193 · 16/08/2022 02:47

First off, I want to say you're amazing and totally under appreciated!!! I lived a similar life a few years ago and you are right to voice your feelings and concerns.

Tell your husband he needs to compromise with you a bit because it isn't just about his child,and his ex it is about you and your kids too and apart from seeing his own son, he has no responsibility to the others and she shouldn't be asking him to have them.

Me and my husband had lots of rows and things were tense but I refused to back down and told him he had to stop giving in to his ex, who didn't work and chose to have 6 kids by 4 different dads and get him into 17k debt. I told him he had to break the cycle or I was done. Not ideal but he did end up doing that and sticking up for himself and his ex did stupid stuff to the point we ended up going to court for his daughter, social services backed us and agreed mother was all about herself and her kids needed additional help. She hasn't seen my stepdaughter now since 2020. My stepdaughter is happier having 2 parents who love her, stability, no domestic violence, 3 meals a day and lots of love. Don't give up.

Juil · 16/08/2022 03:00

Good, he needs to move out. He's doing a horrendous job of parenting those children and you have your own to think about.

Up to you if you want to continue dating when he moves out, just maintaining separate homes. But after way he has treated you, I would think ditching him would be best!

Wetblanket78 · 16/08/2022 03:33

Ok just stop with the insult's. They wanted to include all the children because only one has contact with they're birth father.

But yes I would be kicking him out they aren't respecting you or your home. Get in touch with social services as well. That family has issues and the mother need's to be dealing with them.

deeperthanallroses · 16/08/2022 03:46

I hope it goes well op, it’s absolutely the right thing to do. Re ‘he’s done a lot for me and my children’, really? He can’t possibly have done even a small fraction of what you have done for him and his so why have you rated his small contribution so highly when you’ve: given him and them accomodation, looked after his children, sacrificed your own childrens needs and your time with them, taken him and his on holiday, paid their bills, bought them things, cooked and cleaned for his children… I read this ‘He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.’ and think he’s barely doing anything for his own children and why are you accepting the occasional nice gesture as an equal weighting to the enormous amount you’ve been doing? Please don’t make that mistake
again.

stacyvaron · 16/08/2022 04:54

I think you want to try to save your relationship, make things peaceful, try to tame and even love the little beasts, but there comes a point where it's just not possible. Firstly, YOU are not responsible for the financial upkeep of HIS child, he is. For the sake of your children's health and well being, you just have to put your foot down and be ready for the consequences. It's too much. Like many men he'll try to get over without taking care of things, but might try if it's do or die. GOOD LUCK to you.

doobydoobydooooo · 16/08/2022 04:59

Wtf have I just read?!

Never let someone with 'debt issues from his ex' move into your home. What the fuck. Why does his ex even have your number?

What about this guy at any point seemed like a good idea?

I can't understand either, if I had moved out of my home and relationship and had children - the last thing I would want to do is move in with more kids that weren't mine. I'd be sorting my shit out and trying to provide my kids a stable, consistent environment. Not saying come on kids, come meet some more kids. Ffs how do these men ever get anyone to sleep with them.

Cyclemarine · 16/08/2022 05:08

Hope it went well with telling your partner to move out! I wonder do the 3 ex step kids not have biological dads they see?

Like everyone else has said all
in all it’s an incredibly shocking situation but glad you’ve woken up and realised.

DaisyJoy1 · 16/08/2022 05:30

I voted YABU because YOU ARE NOT PROTECTING YOUR CHILDREN.

I repeat - you are being a bad mother by allowing this to happen.

You need to keep these children out of your children's homes and lives. They are harming them IN THEIR OWN HOME.

Not only this, but you are taking money out of yours and your children's family pot to provide for these horrible children???

That's bad enough even if they're nice children. But the fact that you're not makes it even worse.

I would kick my partner out before I would allow this. I'd even end the relationship over it.

Your kids need to come first.

Your partner sounds like a massive cocklodger to be honest, and he's absolutely taking the piss. I'd bin him even if the kids were nice and NOT bullying my children and destroying their home

Protect. Your. Children.

DaisyJoy1 · 16/08/2022 05:33

Just RTFT - usually read before posting but honest I was so horrified by your OP that I posted right away!

Glad you're kicking him out. Definitely the right decision.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 16/08/2022 05:55

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ApolloandDaphne · 16/08/2022 06:15

I hope your chat went well and he has now left you and your DC to enjoy a quiet peaceful life.

DaughterofDawn · 16/08/2022 06:22

DaisyJoy1 · 16/08/2022 05:30

I voted YABU because YOU ARE NOT PROTECTING YOUR CHILDREN.

I repeat - you are being a bad mother by allowing this to happen.

You need to keep these children out of your children's homes and lives. They are harming them IN THEIR OWN HOME.

Not only this, but you are taking money out of yours and your children's family pot to provide for these horrible children???

That's bad enough even if they're nice children. But the fact that you're not makes it even worse.

I would kick my partner out before I would allow this. I'd even end the relationship over it.

Your kids need to come first.

Your partner sounds like a massive cocklodger to be honest, and he's absolutely taking the piss. I'd bin him even if the kids were nice and NOT bullying my children and destroying their home

Protect. Your. Children.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this. I mean wouldn’t a normal loving caring man be embarrassed to ask his girlfriend to pay for his children especially if they aren’t even his biologically? Adoption is different but this… Just no. Lol. It sounds like his ex still has a leash on him. They do not seem like they had a clean break. They are completely enmeshed with one another.

Not to mention of course your children deserve to be safe and not harassed by strangers in their own homes.

He needs to get his act together. Everything about the situation was complete unfair to you and your kids. What was he thinking? Such a selfish thoughtless man… He should take responsibility! He’s blaming everything on his ex but he has clearly played a role in his own financial demise!

CuriousMama · 16/08/2022 07:02

I'm so glad to read you're getting rid of him. I hope he hasn't talked you around? It's absolutely shocking to read.

Nomorefuckstogive · 16/08/2022 07:04

Your partner isn’t listening to you. He needs to go. This is a horrendous situation for you and your children. Please don’t carry on. You can’t possibly love someone who doesn’t take your needs into consideration at all. He is using you and must go.

Nomorefuckstogive · 16/08/2022 07:05

Just read your updates. Well done. 💐

jammiewhammie65 · 16/08/2022 07:08

Your poor children. Please put them first and stop this shit show now you will be massively letting them down to allow this to continue. Dump him. Put all your energy into healing your children they will resent you when they are older if you allow this to continue. As it is now they will see it as a mistake and a bad time but you have to stop it now

jammiewhammie65 · 16/08/2022 07:09

Sorry just read update ! Well done follow through. Stay strong

Cosmos123 · 16/08/2022 07:15

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

What attracted you to this man?
Why are you allowing this chaos into your children's life?

You need to wake up and take responsibility. You have allowed this disruption and physical assault, deprivation onto your children. Get a grip woman.

Sort it out by booting this man out or your children will NEVER forgive you and rightly so.

Urunbelievable · 16/08/2022 07:24

You have a partner problem. Why isn’t he listening when you tell him what you want?

bloodyunicorns · 16/08/2022 07:31

Put your own dc first and get rid of your partner. It sounds absolutely awful. These dc are not your responsibility, but your Dc are. And your 'partner' sounds useless.

SafeHeaven · 16/08/2022 07:32

I have a feeling the op was talked round last night…

IncompleteSenten · 16/08/2022 07:34

Very probably.
Men like that have silver tongues.