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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

413 replies

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

OP posts:
Summergirl5 · 15/08/2022 22:39

This can’t be real …seriously no one is this much of a door mat

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 15/08/2022 22:50

GrazingSheep · 15/08/2022 15:28

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake
You have.
Rectify it by moving him right back out again.

Yup. Ditch the bloke and put your children first.

cheekychatta · 15/08/2022 22:57

My mouth has literally fallen open reading this . His ex has totally dominated you all . She has the ultimate hold over your partner via his child and will do so for many years She must be laughing like a drain . Time to reclaim your life and your home . Your partner has no backbone and never will have one . Don't care what they think or say about you .

It is a fear of being disliked that has got you into this situation

saraclara · 15/08/2022 23:01

His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away)

So when do they see their dad? Why isn't HE having them every weekend instead of you?

RosyappleA · 15/08/2022 23:02

Second all the previous comments. Cannot believe this either. Even if that man was the best man on earth I would not put up with this. However, if he loved you he wouldn’t do this to you.

Djmaggie · 15/08/2022 23:07

GrazingSheep · 15/08/2022 15:28

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake
You have.
Rectify it by moving him right back out again.

This

ThePumpkinPatch · 15/08/2022 23:12

This is HANDS DOWN the absolute most SHOCKING thing I have EVER read on Mumsnet. Ever. Simply down to the audacity & cheeky fuckery of it!

They spoke and decided that the mini-terrorists were still going to be coming to your house?!?! I don't think so sunshine!!!!

GET RID. He is rubbing his hands together with glee at the mug he has found here. No offence OP.

Quincythequince · 15/08/2022 23:14

Jesus Christ.
Do not let these kids in.
And if your DP won’t support you, throw him out too.
This is utterly appalling.

HereIComeAgain · 15/08/2022 23:30

Get him gone while you can still salvage your relationship with your children. Too much longer of prioritising others over them and you will find they aren't so forgiving.
He doesn't sound kind and gentle. He sounds completely useless, still under the thumb of his ex and putting the onus onto you to deal with all of the problems he has caused.
The good news is he won't be single long, these men never are as they always need a handy girlfriend to run along behind them cleaning up their messes.

CanaryShoulderedThorn · 15/08/2022 23:37

Hope you are ok and you've spelled it out to him now. You are doing the right thing. You and your children deserve better than this.

Vecna · 15/08/2022 23:45

Um, if his child is 8 then he's been 'parenting' the other 3 for more than 2 years. You can't expect him not see them if he wants to.

Kick him out. Only reasonable solution to this shitshow.

Sunnyswfl · 16/08/2022 00:07

What us wrong with you? Your job is to protect your DC. Throw him out and take care of your own kids.

Oddbobbyboo · 16/08/2022 00:09

Pack his bags xx good bye 👋

They’re both taking the pee…. She wants her weekends free…. Pathetic…, don’t have children if you want that!

You’ve been amazing to be as supportive as you have…. Their mum should be able to recognise this and speak with her kids about her behavioural expectations when they are with you.

Its difficult xx but the weight that you are carrying doesn’t even belong to you xx

good luck xx

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 16/08/2022 00:25

This is the main issue with cheeky fuckers, it is never enough, they just keep going until there is nothing left to take. Well done for putting a stop to it and putting your children first, they are what matters here.

Carlycat · 16/08/2022 00:45

Cocklodger

Foronenightonly22 · 16/08/2022 00:52

Please tell me youre a troll. There’s no way on earth anyone should allow themselves to be taken advantage of like that or sit back and allow their children be physically abused and their children's home(sanctuary) trashed from in under them. Your poor DHs. Reclaim your lives, your finances and your home immediately. Get rid of the pisstaker and his children(all but one are not his children btw - they should not be living with him) He and his former partner must have seen you coming.

Lalliella · 16/08/2022 00:53

Get rid of them, or your kids will be mentally damaged for life and they will (rightly) blame you for it.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 16/08/2022 01:00

Sounds horrendous. Your own children need to come first and to have their mum for a weekend to themselves. Just put your foot down and why does she get every weekend child free and you are expected to have all those children over who are not even his. He will have to take her to court to get proper access and then he can have his child over. I would be outraged that my children were suffering and he would be moving out very fast as would not be bullied by him or your children by those kids. Take a stand now as you cannot afford it all either. He has to pay for the food for those kids anyway and why are you paying for it all. Please ask him to leave and maybe continue dating but you need your house back and for your kids sake as they will be damaged otherwise. He sounds like a cock lodger. Put yourself first now and your children as they are all taking the piss, am so angry at them.

oakleaffy · 16/08/2022 01:02

@Ergh
Not your Monkeys, not your zoo
They sound awful, feral and undisciplined.

Get shot of them all, including the useless bloke, and reclaim your home.

~Your children will love and respect you for it.

ladydimitrescu · 16/08/2022 01:15

Why are you putting up with this? Your children are being assaulted and abused in their home and you're allowing this to continue - tell them
to get out! It's that simple! Your partner is a useless, cock lodging twat!

1000umbrellas · 16/08/2022 01:47

CounterTop · 15/08/2022 16:21

She doesn’t want to split up the kids

Before he moved in with you, what happened? Did he have all four children when his son was visiting him?

I was wondering this too @CounterTop . OP hope you are ok.

Summerfun54321 · 16/08/2022 02:07

Nothappyatwork · 15/08/2022 15:39

Stuff that for a game of soldiers you can meet another man with no children pretend this didn’t happen and just start all over again and that would be my very firm advice to you

Absolutely. Life is way too short for all that drama and it isn’t going to get better. No man is worth all that.

SammyScrounge · 16/08/2022 02:14

On top of everything he consults his ex anot her children coming over,? And he pays no mind to what you say?

Why are you looking after her kids? You have no obligation there. What did your partner say about the boy who struck you? Nothing I suspect.The trouble is if he gets away with it, next time he'll hit you harder He will escalate his actions, the way they did with the furniture.

I',m afraid the real problem here is your partner. He leaves you to deal with these children which he finds unmanageable. He's pretty spineless actually. The moment that boy hit you in the face your partner should have removed him and dumped him on his mother's doorstep.

You've made this man too comfortable. He is'broke but lives on a nice home in paid for by someone else his kids go on expensive outings paid for by someone else, food paid for by someone else.

But the unforgivable thing is that your child was hurt enough to bleed. And you let it go. Your own children must be terrified when the others come in knowing that they will do whatever they like. In their own home they can be hit, ther house vandalised in front of their eyes - and all to please some man who doesn't give two hours about what happens to them
.
He has to go.

Zonder · 16/08/2022 02:18

Hope your conversation with him went smoothly and he didn't put up a fight.

StClare101 · 16/08/2022 02:26

Surely this can’t be true? Pack his bags, change the locks, block his number. He’s a dick.