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To have ‘defaced’ this photograph??

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Boobsakimboo · 14/08/2022 09:39

We have lockers at work, in our break room where everyone goes and one co-worker,
Jim, has a photo of a famous, topless page 3 girl on the inside of his door.
the girl in the photo was 16 when it was taken, and he’s had it since around the same age - he wrote into The Sun and got a signed one sent- so it’s very precious to him.

several women have mentioned to Jim that they’d rather he didn’t have it there as the locker door is often left open and we can see it. Jim thinks we’re prudes, because it’s famous page 3 girls, and IN his locker it’s not an issue.

Anyway, cut to last week. I was alone in break room. Locker door was open so I’m looking at this picture. There were Sharpie pens sitting on the table. So I gave the child in the photo quite a substantial bikini top with the permanent marker.

shit has hit the fan! Management don’t quite know what to do. Jim is furious, and the workforce divided into those who think it’s funny and those who think it was wrong.
no-one know who did it… Jim
his suspicions …

So MN, was AIBU??

OP posts:
FlyingMasticatedParticles · 14/08/2022 12:50

How dare you destroy the nice man's child exploitation image. You hysterical feminist! Won't anyone think of the men and their wank fodder.

Samarie123 · 14/08/2022 12:53

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KatherineJaneway · 14/08/2022 12:54

Boobsakimboo · 14/08/2022 10:53

‘But you think so little of him you destroyed something that is precious to him.’

i put a bra on her. The photo is intact. Her belly is still bare, her bum cheeks still in all their glory. Her pretty still there to be admired… it just me and the other women no longer need to see her nipples on a daily basis.

You still destroyed it

Sparklingbrook · 14/08/2022 12:55

It's interesting that the OP says both shit has hit the fan! Management don’t quite know what to do and Anyway, photo gone. No consequences for anyone.

powergrip · 14/08/2022 12:55

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Oh yes the poor 48 year old man with his treasured sexually explicit picture of a child. Poor guy.

Boobsakimbo2 · 14/08/2022 12:55

‘What a nasty bitch.’
ouch. So which are you, one of those men who calls a woman bitch anytime she doesn’t anything he doesn’t like or worse, a woman who should know better?

SuperPets · 14/08/2022 12:56

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Yeah, a nasty bitch destroying an old mans kiddie porn.

What in the actual fucking fuck is wrong with you?

Samarie123 · 14/08/2022 12:57

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Whitehorsegirl · 14/08/2022 12:57

Good for you!!

Your colleague should not have brought this in the workplace in the first place.

The locker belongs to the company and is in a shared work space, it is not his personal space to use as he wishes.

He was warned that the picture was causing offence and for good reasons and his immediate reaction was to use the misogynist defence that other people are ''prudes'' for complaining.

I do also think management should have pre-empted this and told him to remove the image as soon as concerns were raised so it is their fault for failing to act. It is bizarre that in this day and age managers would take the risk to condone this...

You did what you did because the people in charge fail to take action and you are perfectly right not to accept any pictures like this in your workplace.

I would say the same if it was a woman bringing pics of a half naked Harry Styles or a gay man bringing in pics of men wearing very little by the way. The workplace is not an environment where you display this type of material.

I remember when I was a student in the 1990s working part-time in a big London hotel and a male staff member had pinned in the staff room a cartoon of a couple having sex which I thought was totally inappropriate. One of the female employees also confided in me that that guy had once pointed at the cartoon and said he would like to do the same thing to her...I am sure if confronted that pig would have said he was only ''joking'' and that people should not be prudes. I also worked part-time for a small organisation where the CEO, a gay man, left magazines on his desk opened at the page where male escorts were advertising. A staff member lodged a complaint against him because of it and he was gone soon after.

The point is people should leave their fantasies/sexual imagery out of the workplace....

Samarie123 · 14/08/2022 12:58

And they would both be the same age now and she’s probably famous for it

Maireas · 14/08/2022 12:58

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Why be offensive to the OP?
Is it because she's an outspoken woman?

powergrip · 14/08/2022 12:59

@Samarie123 Things we're NOT different 'back then'. Child pornography was ALWAYS child pornography. You sound a bit thick.

SirVixofVixHall · 14/08/2022 13:01

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 14/08/2022 10:56

I am old enough to remember The Sun doing count downs to Page 3 girl's 16th birthdays, although the one I remember is Lindsay Dawn Mackenzie. She posed with her hands over her tits for the count down, then topless on her birthday. Even back then a lot of people were appalled! I remember girlie calenders being pinned up in the office, it was disgusting and intimidating, and I am glad it isn't a thing any more. So good for you, and if that makes me a hysterical feminist, so be it. Jim is a filthy perve who was getting his rocks off pissing off his female colleagues, I have zero sympathy for him. Precious photo my arse.

This.
Having a pin up of a topless under- eighteen year old up in the workplace ? I am astonished anyone thinks this is fine. Having an adult woman’s topless image, (or a man with his penis on show) is surely not ok wherever you work ?

Whitehorsegirl · 14/08/2022 13:01

''@easylisten
MN is increasing being flooded with first world problems!''

The objectification of women, misogyny and the over-sexualisation of teenage girls are not ''first world problems''.

They are serious concerns for any decent society who wants women to feel respected and safe in the workplace and in life in general.

Samarie123 · 14/08/2022 13:01

powergrip · 14/08/2022 12:59

@Samarie123 Things we're NOT different 'back then'. Child pornography was ALWAYS child pornography. You sound a bit thick.

was it classed as child porn back then? It’s a pair of tits ffs. We all have them.

Trixiefirecracker · 14/08/2022 13:02

@Samarie123 that is not an excuse for anything. How bloody ridiculous. It was still wrong back then.

GretaVanFleet · 14/08/2022 13:02

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Of age! What sort of terminology is that? I suppose you would think it appropriate if you had a daughter ‘of age’ who shared topless pictures of herself or dated a Jim?
In England a child is defined as anyone who has not reached their 18th birthday, so the picture is of a child. There’s only one person that sounds silly @WaitingForWinter1 and it’s the person claiming a 16 yr old isn’t still a child.

whalleyt · 14/08/2022 13:02

I presume @Samarie123 is just being contrary as opposed to a supporter of indecent child images as a bit weird to be so angry at the OP.

roarfeckingroarr · 14/08/2022 13:04

@Samarie123 yes and things are different now! The OP didn't do this back in the 80s or whenever making and owning sexually explicit images of children was just fine Hmm she did it in 2022 when it is very much NOT OK. Because he refused to take it home or keep it out of view, because he obviously got some sort of titillation out of making women uncomfortable. At work. And management did nothing.

Trixiefirecracker · 14/08/2022 13:04

I’m totally appalled at people on this thread thinking it’s ok and trying to justify it. Are you just being contrary for and argumentative because you want a good only me fight? Something gone wrong with your Sunday?

Trixiefirecracker · 14/08/2022 13:05

*online fight!

Samarie123 · 14/08/2022 13:05

SirVixofVixHall · 14/08/2022 13:01

This.
Having a pin up of a topless under- eighteen year old up in the workplace ? I am astonished anyone thinks this is fine. Having an adult woman’s topless image, (or a man with his penis on show) is surely not ok wherever you work ?

how can you compare a pair of tits with a penis. A penis is a sexual reproductive organ! Are people seeing breasts as sexual? Weird

Trixiefirecracker · 14/08/2022 13:06

You don’t think Jim is seeing those ‘tits ’ as sexual?😳

whalleyt · 14/08/2022 13:06

It’s a pair of tits ffs. We all have them.

most men have dicks, doesn't mean it's ok for me to have one as a screen saver at work.

WeDontTalkAboutLove · 14/08/2022 13:07

jeaux90 · 14/08/2022 10:07

Managers are to blame here, clearly fine to degrade 50% of the population rather than piss of one middle aged man.

Good for you OP.

This.

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