Man stalking woman, excused by saying he must be autistic..

[AutismIsStigmatised]

I came across this video on TikTok today, I'll post the link below but in summary an unknown man posed as an amazon delivery person to get access to a block of flats this woman lives in. He was behaving strangely and wanted to give her a 'gift' which was some sort of cup / candle holder. She confronted him and he left, then came back up again, left again then came back up a third time with his hood up as though he was about to do something sinister. Very bloody creepy.

vm.tiktok.com/ZMNsQfG2W/

The comments are littered with people saying that he's 'clearly autistic'

Take a look and tell me what you think but as the parent of an autistic boy (and wife of an autistic adult) it really upsets me when people assume scary/criminal behaviour is due to autism. I know many people with autism and not one has ever behaved like that..

So because you put up with it, other people should have to put up with the unintended behaviours of autistic people, even when it’s assault?

I say this with kindness, because if he hurts you, he will hurt other people. He shouldn't be allowed to do this. If your son hurt my child, I would blame you, of course, not him. I would file a police report even if I knew your child was blameless because the adults in his care should not allow him out in society if he's at risk of harming society. Maybe you do everything you can to prevent him from harming others, but please take care to protect others and yourself.

*How on earth can you not see that a person who requires more than one carer is vulnerable??

Disclaimer (again): no, this doesn't mean the woman is not vulnerable and her feelings not valid.*

I don't give a fuck how vulnerable they are. Other people are vulnerable too. Being autistic does not give anyone a right to assault someone and it be okay. If you think it does, you have issues. A woman's right to safety comes first.

To be clear, no, the police will not arrest a person who literally cannot understand their rights being read to them. They don't even know what a police officer is.

Disclaimer: this does not apply to high functioning individuals who know exactly what they're doing and the difference between right and wrong.

@HailAdrian

How insulting to suggest keeping him locked up 😆

You said this exact thing on a thread the other day when nobody said anything close to this, as is the case on this thread too.

You're either being wilfully disingenuous or not comprehending people's posts accurately.

You're twisting people's words and then accusing them of doing the same to you.

Yes, PP just seems incapable of understanding this. If his child decides to try to throw a baby off an art gallery then no-one’s going to stop to examine his mental capacity when pushing him off instead is the safest option.

So, what I'm getting from this is that most of you don't have a fucking clue about severe autism. The kind of autism that requires round the clock care. Unbelievable, really.

This thread is absolute chaos.

Regardless of whether someone has capacity or not, if they commit a serious crime then obviously they will be arrested. The public also deserve to be kept safe. This is why forensic psychiatric hospitals and learning disability hospitals exist...

I don't give a fuck how vulnerable they are.

No, you and others like you have made it very clear that you don't give a fuck about severely disabled people. Luckily, there are lots of people who do.

Yep, exactly this.

My son is profoundly disabled. He doesn't even know that you can't eat your own faeces when you've soiled your nappy. Yes, that's graphic but it's true.

Ridiculous to suggest he would be arrested. I have seen adult men like him at our respire centre, and no I wouldn't be feeling the same if I was hit by one of them, compared to being hit by a usual member of society. They don't have a clue what they're doing. They don't even know how to tell you Peppa Pig, a 30 year old I knows favourite programme, is pink.

Please, tell me how a person can be arrested when they have literally no understanding of what is happening to them?

Don’t be ridiculous. They will arrest them, take them to the station, and then wait until a competent professional gives a diagnosis and sections them.

At this point I don’t believe your story, you seem actually amused at people explaining what may happen to your boy.

The police will not stand back and allow him to maim someone. Similarly, the courts will not convict someone who uses whatever makeshift weapon they can find to stop the assault.

If they are with a carer, they will have a diagnosis already.

Learning disability hospital? Where? Any evidence and links please?

A profoundly disabled person with something like severe non verbal autism wouldn't be admitted to a psychiatric hospital

You are trolling now. Have you seen the police arrest people who are nearly blacked out drunk? Same here. Four of them pick him up, carry him to a van, and lock him in the back.

They do not do a psychological examination first when they arrive and he’s trying to strangle someone’s little boy.

If they attack people they would. If any of your story was true you’d be well aware of where this little tale of yours ends.

Thank you, ffs I thought I was living in an alternate reality.

I hate to break it to you but they absolutely will.

In the case of assault, an officer will go on and make an immediate arrest once they’ve clarified the details of who, when etc.

If you were under the assumption that your son will never ever be arrested because he’s autistic then I’m afraid you’re in for shock

Was he disabled and with a carer? Because a profoundly autistic person will not be out without one.

Also how do you expect a busy police officer, who has to make fast decisions when there’s been an assault or sexual assault, to ascertain who is and isn’t high functioning? Should they call a doctor and check? Are people even ‘badged’ based on their functioning. You saying ‘oh he isn’t high functioning’ will not allow an officer to go ‘oh well then, I thing to see here people, on you go’ if he assaulted someone

www.safeguardingadultsinbexley.com/wp-content/uploads/Autism-Booklet-for-Police-Officers.pdf

There you go. It explains how they arrest them. If someone with autism commits a crime, they don't just say 'oh well never mind, he's autistic'

It seems most people don't. Another issue with just giving 'autism' as a diagnosis for a blanket of presentations

I'm 'autistic'. I have a degree, I can write and advocate for myself. I'm not great at keeping friends but I know how to talk to people and communicate my needs. I'm a fully functioning, independent adult. To say I have the same diagnosis as my son, a profoundly disabled, non verbal, doubly incontinent child is ridiculous and really quite insulting to what he does through and the lifelong challenges he will face

If they don’t understand this, how can he be out and about in public alone? he can’t

No we understand, we just don’t agree that if they assaulted someone it wouldn’t be considered a crime because they have severe autism.

From everything I've said, what on earth makes you think he can be out unsupervised and committing criminal acts?