Am I the only one who thinks scrimping and saving can go and get fucked for bare essentials

[Freedomfromunfairbills]

All the advice about cost of living seems to be ways you can scrimp and save to possible cobble together enough money to stay alive on bare necessities such as food, water, etc. Am I the only one thinking fuck this we just should not accept this when many of the companies jacking up their prices are making record profits. Even if it’s technically possible why on earth should I give up new clothes, gadgets, TV, holidays abroad, ect all to fund the obscene riches of the one percent. Instead of this advice on how to possibly meet these we actually need to say on mass no we are not surfs under the feudal system and we refuse to become a peasant class enough is enough. We should demand the government steps on and nationalises these companies and demand immediate taxes on the ultra rich to fund it all. I’ve always been fairly right wing and conservative but surely this is simply some kind of feudalism that will reduce many of us to little more than peasants and ruin the quality of life for many. Aibu?

thanks for this

As the saying goes
”The peasants are revolting”

YANBU to want a portion of your hard earned money to be spent on the things that make life worthwhile.

YABU to expect any help from this shit show of a government. You voted for them op.

I, like many, will be working MORE hrs from now on, and will have LESS money to live on. Less family time, less luxuries, less holidays. It’s depressing tbh. I worry about our children’s future. Rich people could never understand.

Why shouldn't they? Society is based on trickle down wealth in bad times as in good. Or is it just when things are good?

Trickle down has been totally debunked. It is bollocks.

Food for thought op I'm afraid, I agree. What did you think you were voting for ??

Beat me to it

This. I’m waiting for things to fall apart more. Those who say ‘get a different job to earn more’ or ‘move up’ rely on the services of others to do jobs they don’t want to do but need. Public services especially. Doesn’t matter how much you earn, everyone needs bin men, people to issue your driving licence, hospital cleaners (yes even in private hospitals). Can’t buy your way into those services. You’ll find them gone if you don’t give them enough pay for heating and eating and keep
telling everyone to improve their own circumstances.

I will probably get flamed for this but why are so many people on here against rich people? I am not well off by any means and am concerned about the rise in costs, watching pennies and cutting back. Do I grudge people who have money, absolutely not. If I could find some way of selling something that people want and make a mint then I sure as hell would and I certainly don’t think I should be penalised because I came up with something to make me rich. They already pay higher taxes and IF they make their money honestly then what harm does that have? Bloody good for them, I wish I could join them. I’ve been in positions when I’ve needed help financially and because our income is above a certain threshold there was nothing for us at all. We both work full time, pay our bills but it counts for nothing. I personally have more issue with those who drain the system when there are people out there in real need who don’t receive enough.
Id rather spend my life appreciating what we do have and have achieved whilst hoping our child achieves more than being bitter about the guy down the road in his mansion.

The gap between the rich and the poor is now a chasm I am genuinely terrified for people. I can only manage because I have paid off my mortgage and still work full time - I'm 60.
But my DS and DiL have not managed at all due to the massive cost of rent and utilities and have had to come home for good. DiL can't work more than a couple of days a week due to disability.
Luckily I don't have a husband to worry about.

Not stupid at all. But what happened was the Johnson government took a decision in 2017 to shut down the Rough storage facility, which provided 70% of the UKs energy storage and had done for years. They were relying on be able to continue to extract North Sea oil at will, even though those reserves were already dwindling. This was done to save money (Hah! That decision didn't age well did it?). But the genies out of the bag and even if they could conjure up more storage tomorrow, they would be buying in at hugely increased costs. A day late and a dollar short as usual.

You might feel differently if you were choosing between clothing or feeding your child as my friend on UC is since her electric bill rose to £300 a month.

No, I wouldn’t because I have been there. Did u grudge people who made smarter choices than me in life no.

Why would the rich pay for it all? A lot of them manage to get out of paying the tax they should be putting into Govt coffers, that's the issue!

There is a massive regeneration of Elephant and Castle going on at the moment (where the hideous but iconic shopping centre used to be). Saw on Twitter that none of the companies involved (a lot seem to be Isle of Man registered) pay Corporation Tax.

You start to get a sense of how the rich stay rich.And the gap between the rich and poor is just getting wider and wider.

OP if you vote Tory and want to nationalise industry you are not a right wing conservative, you are a bit dim. Jeremy Corbyn would have been your ideal PM. The point of the Tories is to keep the wealth in the hands of the rich. That does not change just because the poor get a bit poorer. It's people like you that keep us in this mess. Please try and understand what you are voting for

I really think that most people in this country who vote conservative don't really know what the tories stand for.

You voted exactly for this!

For me the dislike is for people who get rich off other people's misery and stay rich by preventing them from escaping their misery. There are lots of nice rich people, many of them give millions to charity for example.

We don't need to riot. We just need to stop voting Tory.

Time to rethink your right wing conservative politics.

There are not where near enough super rich people to pay for what you suggest. You are so naive OP. If you taxed them all 80 or 90% over say the first £75k (which is itself enormous but I've seen some on here think that is a scrimping wage level) and even if they all paid that tax instead of getting a better accountant or moving abroad, it would barely add a few quid for each of us on our child benefit.

1.2million people are earning over £100,000 a year and those who earn more than £200,000 a year is much smaller at 235,000.

As at the 31st August 2020, there were approximately 7.21 million families in receipt of Child Benefit.

Remember too that the profits from some these big companies (that are stock exchange listed) go into the pension pots of ordinary people - all those people not in public service pension funds that have a workplace pension.

Times are really tough. We're on a tiny income here and have really cut back and are worried about the winter gas bill. Most people through out history could only dream of the luxuries we do have though. The government, indeed the super-rich, are not a bottomless pot. It is kind of childish to think they do - like still expecting a metaphorical mummy or daddy to pay for everything. Grow up and cut your cloth.

I think where we spend our money is the greatest power we hold.

If no one bought things from Amazon, because they are a terrible company who don’t pay their taxes, they would soon start paying taxes instead of building giant penis’ to fly off on space jollies. They can only acquire our money if we give it to them. If we all bought from local independent farm shops, bookshops, hardware stores etc etc they physically couldn’t have our money. But firstly it’s slightly more convenient or cheaper to just use the big companies and secondly it takes some spare income not to need to buy the cheapest of everything. Oh, and in many places/industries there aren’t many independents left. Couldn’t tell you the last time I saw a bookshop. And fuel etc has always been an issue.

@WinterMusings

Anyone else. Even a random person chosen from the street would do better than Boris and company. Everyone knows that.
The whole party must be full of this sort of people, I mean "me me me me" people.
May was better than him.
Even Cameron was more acceptable.
Boris has no ethics, no integrity, nothing...
And I think the whole party is full of shit.
Labour seems to have no defined shape, it is like a shadow, vague and weak.
I think we do need someone brand new. A new strong party, with actual principles and ideas, who will act with some respect towards us.
I quite like the Liberal Party myself.

How much do you think the 1% earn that not paying them would make any difference to the cost of living?

I don't necessarily morally agree with the ridiculous bonuses they get, but say the CEO of EDF got a million pound bonus this year and it gets cancelled. Divide that between 10 million customers and that's....10p off my estimated energy bill of, whatever it's currently been estimated at, say £3500. Well that will make all the difference. Get rid of bonuses for the CEOs of tescos and vodafone too and pass those savings onto the customers and I'm laughing, I'll be able to go on holiday with that saved 30p.

Lots of things are a bit shit and unfair in Britain at the moment, and its not unreasonable to discuss what we could do to improve them, but yabu to just rant without making any sense, and to suggest that a year or two not having a holiday or the latest iphone makes life not worth living.

@Eeksteek where we spend our money is indeed another tool we have inded

Kind of how I took it as well.