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Am I the only one who thinks scrimping and saving can go and get fucked for bare essentials

335 replies

Freedomfromunfairbills · 11/08/2022 17:45

All the advice about cost of living seems to be ways you can scrimp and save to possible cobble together enough money to stay alive on bare necessities such as food, water, etc. Am I the only one thinking fuck this we just should not accept this when many of the companies jacking up their prices are making record profits. Even if it’s technically possible why on earth should I give up new clothes, gadgets, TV, holidays abroad, ect all to fund the obscene riches of the one percent. Instead of this advice on how to possibly meet these we actually need to say on mass no we are not surfs under the feudal system and we refuse to become a peasant class enough is enough. We should demand the government steps on and nationalises these companies and demand immediate taxes on the ultra rich to fund it all. I’ve always been fairly right wing and conservative but surely this is simply some kind of feudalism that will reduce many of us to little more than peasants and ruin the quality of life for many. Aibu?

OP posts:
BattenburgDonkey · 11/08/2022 18:35

You’re right you shouldn’t have to give up buying gadgets etc to fund the rich. However many ‘peasants’ as you so nicely named them couldn’t afford these gadgets before the cost of living crisis and now literally can’t afford to live so that advice is still relevant to them. However if you think you can fix things now that you’re getting closer to being one of those ‘peasants’ you go right ahead. Your ideas aren’t wrong but your delivery on this thread doesn’t help your argument.

ImWell · 11/08/2022 18:36

Friars23 · 11/08/2022 18:19

Because those with great wealth and assets have only massively increased their wealth whilst the majority have seen wages in real terms flat lining since the 2008 crash.

No, that’s why you would like them to pay for it.

Why would they agree?

caringcarer · 11/08/2022 18:37

You do realise that those better off already pay more taxes than the less well off? I don't think just because someone earns more they should be taxed to the hilt. It is up to all to earn what they can and set their budgets accordingly. You clearly feel entitled to a foreign holiday that many can't afford at the moment. No one stopping you have a holiday but if you spend on that you may find it hard to pay fuel bills this winter.

MyNameIsAngelicaSchuyler · 11/08/2022 18:38

If you are right wing and conservative this is exactly what you voted for. Or did you think you were among the 1%?

Josephsrose · 11/08/2022 18:38

I agree with you OP!
I bought my own house last year (finally, after ditching the long term money-squandering Muppet I was married to).

I'm 51 and working 3 jobs and feel full of fear about bloody electric bills!
I don't see how I'm gonna make it through the next year, I literally can't work enough to make it all feasible. And these Westminster dicks go on about tax cuts and we can't afford to live!!!!

AuntMargo · 11/08/2022 18:39

srey · 11/08/2022 17:53

I think you mean serfs not surfs.

or did she mean Smurfs !!!

ImWell · 11/08/2022 18:39

OlympicProcrastinator · 11/08/2022 18:35

So in essence then you would go for a shopping spree and a holiday rather than pay your gas bill? A CCJ and poor credit record is heading your way. You sound very entitled

Well I for one do indeed feel entitled to spend the money I earned enjoying my life buying and doing the things I love as opposed to paying ridiculous prices for essentials yes.

Then you need to earn more money. What are you doing about it?

OlympicProcrastinator · 11/08/2022 18:44

Then you need to earn more money. What are you doing about it?

Sure sure it’s that easy isn’t it? Everyone should just earn more money! Why didn’t everyone just think of that? Genius! Let the greedy energy companies push up prices and we can just earn more money for them to get richer.

Or we could all feel a bit pissed off about the situation. Not sure it’s ‘entitled’ to feel like that after working 40 hours a week and having so little left over to show for it after bills.

ImWell · 11/08/2022 18:44

Josephsrose · 11/08/2022 18:38

I agree with you OP!
I bought my own house last year (finally, after ditching the long term money-squandering Muppet I was married to).

I'm 51 and working 3 jobs and feel full of fear about bloody electric bills!
I don't see how I'm gonna make it through the next year, I literally can't work enough to make it all feasible. And these Westminster dicks go on about tax cuts and we can't afford to live!!!!

But if you get a tax cut that’ll help you to afford to live, so why are you against it?

They are talking about tax cuts for you, not for the wealthy.

Tinkerblonde1 · 11/08/2022 18:45

ImWell · 11/08/2022 18:35

So you want other people to work hard to produce food, housing, clothes, a television etc for you, but you don’t want to pay for it?

Why would anyone else want to go along with that?

What you are feeling is unearned entitlement. You can get in the bin.

You think £513 a month for gad and electric is acceptable?

MoodyTwo · 11/08/2022 18:45

PlanetNormal · 11/08/2022 18:21

Well, OP, if you have “always been fairly right wing and conservative”, then congratulations. You have got the capitalist, privatised, free-market economic system you voted for, and it’s a bit late to start whinging about it now. You are the Turkey who rather stupidly voted for Christmas. So suck it up.

This

Jki · 11/08/2022 18:47

LaurieFairyCake · 11/08/2022 17:51

I think people are too stupid to realise that the rich have everyone else's money Hmm

They didn't make it - they just sold you something at a price you were (mostly forced) to buy...

True. Sigh.

Why should anyone go without essentials just to make others wealthier. It’s madness.

ImWell · 11/08/2022 18:47

OlympicProcrastinator · 11/08/2022 18:44

Then you need to earn more money. What are you doing about it?

Sure sure it’s that easy isn’t it? Everyone should just earn more money! Why didn’t everyone just think of that? Genius! Let the greedy energy companies push up prices and we can just earn more money for them to get richer.

Or we could all feel a bit pissed off about the situation. Not sure it’s ‘entitled’ to feel like that after working 40 hours a week and having so little left over to show for it after bills.

It’s entitled to think you have a right to luxuries without the income to pay for them.

Are there people senior to you at work? What do you need to do to aspire to one of their jobs?

How much did you save for a rainy day before things got this expensive? Can your partner earn more?

ImWell · 11/08/2022 18:48

Tinkerblonde1 · 11/08/2022 18:45

You think £513 a month for gad and electric is acceptable?

You are spending over £6,000 per year? You need to cut down on your usage. Whining on here isn’t really a necessary thing to spend money on if you are struggling.

MushMonster · 11/08/2022 18:48

I am missing whatever OP has written that is winding most people up?

As we all (rich and poor, excluding the ultra hyper wealthy) loose acquisition power and we stop spending on here or there, the economy shrinks, isn't it?
Everytime we stay home eating ham and cheese value sandwiches instead of going out to our local for dinner after a long day at work, those pounds stay put, instead of changing hand. Someone is missing the income, the tips. Add it up, and it may mean a job position is lost. The country loses on the taxes from this and NHS contribution. So, the rest has to put it in. We may have to pay to sustain said employee till they find another job. And so on and on....
I understand that we are post Brexit, post pandemic, in the middle of an environmental dilemma, at the end of fossil fuels usage and in the mist of a war. So we will have effects.
But the rate at wich prices are going up, train strikes, energy prices is just too quick for most of us to cope. And this stupid goverment is not doing anything to negotiate prices with the companies, which are still making huge profits.

LemonsOnSaleAgain · 11/08/2022 18:49

Surely this is what you voted for OP? Except that you probably thought that the 'undeserving' in this country would suffer, not you.

LizzieSiddal · 11/08/2022 18:51

You voted for this shower of shits! Own your mistake and vow to vote for Labour who will at least care about people dying this winter because they can’t afford to eat or heat their homes!

SecondhandTable · 11/08/2022 18:52

LemonsOnSaleAgain · 11/08/2022 18:49

Surely this is what you voted for OP? Except that you probably thought that the 'undeserving' in this country would suffer, not you.

I agree with OP completely, however their admission that up until know they have been 'right wing and conservative' - clearly this PP here is correct. Poverty is tolerated fine for Other People apparently but not for People Like Them.

saleorbouy · 11/08/2022 18:52

It's always better to buy within your means and where possible buy the best value items to then be able to save for when you need to replace larger more expensive items.
I think it's rather entitled to think that you don't need to budget and plan financially because someone else will work in a higher paid job and pay sufficient tax to support your ideology.
If it grieves you others have more start working on your aspirations, spend less and save more.

Tinkerblonde1 · 11/08/2022 18:54

Tinkerblonde1
You think £513 a month for gad and electric is acceptable?

You are spending over £6,000 per year? You need to cut down on your usage. Whining on here isn’t really a necessary thing to spend money on if you are struggling.

Well not yet but these are the predictions that Cornwall are predicting. I think you are being deliberately obtuse though but you know that. Grin

ReneBumsWombats · 11/08/2022 18:54

It's pretty miserable never to have any money for anything that's not essential to life.

Despairingof · 11/08/2022 18:55

So you voted for this government to treat the poor like they’ve always treated the poor and only care now it impacts you? 😂🤣 True Tory there

MushMonster · 11/08/2022 18:55

If I am going to pay double for my energy at home (we spend rather little, before the rises we were perfectly fine paying £92 per month), I want it to go to finance solar panel installation in roofs, electric power charging points, waste to energy plants, windmills, hydropower and so on...
I really do not want it to go to Shell or BP shareholders. It will be my wasted money. They are not going to supply clean energy once they finish digging for crude, are they? We will still have to put the money down for clean energy infrastructure and it will, yet again, come from us, the taxpayer.

Proudboomer · 11/08/2022 18:56

If you want new clothes, gadgets, TV, holidays abroad, ect then you like capitalism but you think the rich should fund it for you?

Metabigot · 11/08/2022 18:56

Auntieobem · 11/08/2022 18:17

That's not what OP means. I get it. Why should the majority cut back to the bare necessities to pay into the coffers of energy companies and line the pockets of the rich?

I know someone who works in management of a specialist skilled team at centrica. He just got a 100k bonus but says that whenever the company try to reduce his teams bonuses people just leave for other companies and its hard to replace them.

It's market forces. I don't begrudge him his bonus (on top of v generous basis).