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AIBU?

To not accommodate Very Important Neighbour's new home office?

739 replies

Knitwit101 · 09/08/2022 14:35

We've lived next door to these neighbours for years. Know each other well enough to say hi, put bins out on holiday, but we're not friends. We've been using our garden in the same way for years. No changes on our side, nothing new.

We've come back from holiday to find neighbour has re-organised his home office and he now sits at a massive (open) window right on the boundary between our gardens. That must have been a spare bedroom before maybe, I don't know. We never saw anyone in it.

I sat outside at our patio table this morning to have a coffee and I could hear every word he said through his open window, could hear every word his colleagues said on their online meetings. He might as well have been sitting at the table with me. Not sure there's much I can do about that, he can use his house however he likes.

Ds10 and his pals are sitting outside at the table trading Pokemom cards. There's 4 of them, they are laughing and chatting but they're not shouting or being silly. And it's a sunny afternoon in the school holidays, they can be outside laughing in the garden if they want to be.

Neighbour has just come to the door to ask me if I can take them inside because he has a full afternoon of work meetings and their noise is distracting him.

I said "what, the whole afternoon? You want them to stay indoors all afternoon?"

He said completely straight-faced "I'll be working till 6.30pm"

I laughed and said "well no, that won't be possible".

At this point he said in a very slow, careful, mansplaining voice just in case I couldn't follow him "I don't think you understand. I have a Very Important Job. These are very important meetings. I negotiate multi-million dollar contracts every day, I need to be able to concentrate."

Seriously? I always though he was a bit of a twat but who talks like this? Who actually says "Very Important" like that? Twice? He has no idea what my job is or how important dh or I might be.

I just said "no, we'll carry on using our garden as we always have. Maybe you could close your window when you're needing to concentrate. And just so you're aware, I can hear you and your colleagues when your window is open, I hope you're not saying anything confidential. I must get on, thanks for doing the bins while we were away" then shut the door.

He's gone, I can hear him on his Very Important Meeting. I could join in, I can hear every word on both sides. I suspect he'll be back, probably when dh is back from work so they can talk man to man.

He's unsettled me though, he was so self-confident when he came to the door, so sure that he would get exactly what he wanted. How do you get that kind of confidence? I wish I had it. Or is it arrogance? He made me think I was in the wrong at first.

We love our garden, we use it all the time. I'm not sure how we'll deal with this one, but I wasn't BU by refusing to bring the kids inside, was I? He's the one who has made the change, not us. I don't think wfh is new for him, he was just somewhere else in his house before I guess. Now he's on top of our patio with his big booming voice. I feel quite sad about it, if he's there all day every day it's going to be awful.

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Am I being unreasonable?

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Superbabe64 · 09/08/2022 15:12

Good on you for being confident. M DH also has very 'important' meetings from home but would never ever think of mansplaining like that. DH actually goes to the office now if he has his 'very important' meetings or will shut himself away.
Your neighbour is a CF... let them kids play...and don't let your DH change your mind.

NippyNippy · 09/08/2022 15:12

Listen in and find out what he's negotiating and to who. Then find his competitors and offer them Skype dates from your garden, at a rate of course Wink

AfterSchoolWorry · 09/08/2022 15:12

I would install a huge, noisy water feature as near to him as possible.

Think something like the Trevi fountain.

drawacircleroundit · 09/08/2022 15:13

Oh, Op, the fun you could have with this. Could a helium balloon float into his “office”? Could you make doctors appointments loudly whilst he’s on a call? Could you have some sneezing fits?
He can go into the privacy of his home when he needs to chit-chat with Richard Branson.

Namechangehereandnow · 09/08/2022 15:13

BlackbirdsSinging · 09/08/2022 15:08

A bit of consideration works both ways. I wish people would think of the other person as well as just themselves. Love thy neighbour and all that. It’s very sad how society is all about the individual now adays.

You really expect OP to keep children indoors on a lovely sunny holiday afternoon just so that knob neighbour can work in peace?! Knob neighbour can close his window - problem sorted!

And btw, the neighbours in question DO think of each other, as stated in the OP.

Qlorex · 09/08/2022 15:14

I have this issue with actual obnoxious neighbours as when I have noise-cancelling headphones and the fan on I cant hear a thing.

When he comes back say something "and I would appreciate you keeping your meetings down, I dont really want to know about the merger of company A with comapny B (names you have overheard) and I doubt their shareholders would be very pleased about people knowing about th emerger before it goes ahead - isnt that how insider trading happens?"

Tabitha005 · 09/08/2022 15:14

I'd be more than happy to pop round and conduct my next Very Important beginner's violin lesson in your garden, OP!

Changes17 · 09/08/2022 15:14

You did very well, but what a fool he is. I think I'd have to have some fun with him. Maybe asking him for stock tips based on what he said through an open window in his very important confidential calls.

Pansypotter123 · 09/08/2022 15:15

That patio could do with a good jet wash! And does the lawn need mowing!?

NellesVilla · 09/08/2022 15:15

I thought you were complaining about him at first, OP and was going to say you’re bu.

But no, YANBU! If it were me I’d be getting the kids to practice their gymnastics, singing etc or put on a little show for the neighbours- as I did with my siblings as a youngster!

MsRead · 09/08/2022 15:15

If he has the audacity ( those types tend to) and tries to speak to your husband I’d be tempted to pop dc round a friends’ house, brief a few friends and have a lunch. The sexual proclivities, infections, odd genitalia shape and affairs of a man who you all know would be merrily and exuberantly discussed ( do avoid phallic shaped lunch items for fear of choking), he would also be an important business person who handles million pound deals. Tinkly laughs all round. See how fast that window shuts and remains shut after that is broadcast across a Teams session.

Normal use of a garden by children is erm normal it is not normal to have a bloody corporate takeover happening next to the shrubbery. Pompous, mainsplaining arse …

Sheepreallylikerichteabiscuits · 09/08/2022 15:16

BlackbirdsSinging · 09/08/2022 15:10

Of course that would work the other way too.
Both sides should be considerate of each other.

Children playing outside in the summer holidays are not a nuisance, and very often the people who moan about them are the same people who moan about 'kids just play on games consoles all the time and don't play properly like we did as kids'

Men throwing their weight around with their big important jobs and their bog important calls and holding them at a volume everyone can hear are a nuisance.

I say this as a childless person who always works from home.

Summer holidays when you are kids are for playing out in the garden, having fun, having your friends round and enjoying yourself without feeling like you have to hush every five minutes. Let the kids be kids!

BackInBlackAgain · 09/08/2022 15:16

BlackbirdsSinging · 09/08/2022 15:08

A bit of consideration works both ways. I wish people would think of the other person as well as just themselves. Love thy neighbour and all that. It’s very sad how society is all about the individual now adays.

So OP should keep her kids in all day everyday so the neighbour can work out in his garden for his Very Important Calls? How is the neighbour being considerate? He isnt, at all, just expecting OP to comply with what he wants.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 09/08/2022 15:16

Can you hire a trampoline for the month?
Children love those. They should be able to bounce up and wave at him and his meeting.

Yes you did the right thing - he really is unreasonable.

I do love MrsTerryPratchett's idea of getting your husband to admit to utter helplessness in the face of you -the real big boss 😈

HellonHeels · 09/08/2022 15:16

TheDutchHouse · 09/08/2022 14:40

Oh goodness I'd be inviting my children's friends round more often .. many be set up a paddle pool or trampoline Smile

Good call on the trampoline.

Maybe hire a spa pool too.

sheepandcaravan · 09/08/2022 15:18

Hot tub on the patio, ask him to run a power lead outWink

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 09/08/2022 15:18

I think I'd have said "oh, a Verrry Important Job? I didn't know it was Verrryy Important. Why didn't you say so?!" And then continued having my coffee.

Might even have been tempted to order a sex pond hot tub, to permanently hum into his eardrums.

ScreechingEchoChamber · 09/08/2022 15:18

Mustardbay · 09/08/2022 14:40

I think you need to start some Very Important drum lessons

Grin
Creepymanonagoatfarm · 09/08/2022 15:18

You need a t shirt that says
Dm - on the front.
Very Important Job - on the back.

WiddlinDiddlin · 09/08/2022 15:18

Oh thats an excellent diagram OP.

DO NOT LET CHILDREN BACK IN.. they must stay out, bribe with pizza if necessary.

If they really insist its child abuse to keep them outside, go out there and listen to an audiobook!

When he comes to mansplain again how Very Important his job is, definitely make sure you query that 'really, VERY important, how funny you don't have an office... or even... head phones!' and look realllllllllly disbelieving :D

MarsupiIami · 09/08/2022 15:19

drawacircleroundit · 09/08/2022 15:13

Oh, Op, the fun you could have with this. Could a helium balloon float into his “office”? Could you make doctors appointments loudly whilst he’s on a call? Could you have some sneezing fits?
He can go into the privacy of his home when he needs to chit-chat with Richard Branson.

There's helium balloons with motors you can remote control...

Shinyandnew1 · 09/08/2022 15:19

What a twat! I’d turn the radio up and talk loudly on the phone to my friends about the hot tub I was thinking of installing!

If he wants peace and quiet, he needs to fuck off back to the office.

Where has he been working for the last two years, @Knitwit101

season2 · 09/08/2022 15:19

Goldbar · 09/08/2022 15:03

There is a misconception amongst some people that Covid and wfh transformed the whole country, including suburbia with tightly packed terraced houses and semis, into one gigantic office space where office rules apply. You see this not only with people like this (and we also have a neighbour who conducts work meetings in the garden and sighs audibly whenever DC uses the paddling-pool), but also in the number of men who set up their laptops at the kitchen table rather than in an upstairs bedroom and insisted that the whole family tiptoed around them.

This really resonates with me. What is it about working in the kitchen and expecting total silence, no teas to be made etc yet in the occasion just for a change of scenery I dare to take a work call from the kitchen I'm the one who gets shouted at because DH can't concentrate?!

Louise0701 · 09/08/2022 15:19

YABU OP.. did you miss the fact he is VERY IMPORTANT! Hopefully your husband will be home soon so he can discuss this with him. The wimmin won’t understand the importance of his man job.

I hope your son had lots of fun with his friends. Perhaps this afternoon they could get the pool out and the water guns. That would be fun.

KettrickenSmiled · 09/08/2022 15:19

At this point he said in a very slow, careful, mansplaining voice just in case I couldn't follow him "I don't think you understand. I have a Very Important Job. These are very important meetings. I negotiate multi-million dollar contracts every day, I need to be able to concentrate."
😂😂😂

"Oh, I understand perfectly chum, because the noise pollution from your Very Important Job is so damn loud that I will be able to sell your Very Important Secrets to your competitors."

You don't need advice on not complying with his idiotic instructions OP - & bloody well done to you for that. I hope, when VIP returns, that you & DH give him more short shrift, including a complaint about how his noisiness is affecting your legal right to peaceful enjoyment of your garden ...
www.bihr.org.uk/the-right-to-peaceful-enjoyment-of-possessions


Also, you possibly need to recruit a posse of right-thinking women to gather with you, underneath his Important Window & disrupt his Important Business with loud & contemptuous laughter at his Self-Importance.

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