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To think posting pictures of yourself crying is literally a cry for help?

149 replies

JeezooosMaryandJoseph · 09/08/2022 14:25

I want to make it clear that I am not making light of anyone’s mental health issues - and if that’s how this comes across, I apologise in advance. I also apologise if I don’t know the whole story.

To be honest though, I was a little eye-rolley about that woman that recently married Brooklyn Beckham this week when she posted a picture of herself on Instagram showing she was crying. I feel it’s a bit of a slap in the face to anyone who is living in desperate times (poverty being one of the main reasons).

I’m not saying for a second rich people can’t be upset but positing it on a site that thousands/millions of people can access feels a little bit wrong and self absorbed to me. AIBU?

OP posts:
ReneBumsWombats · 09/08/2022 20:24

doilookremotelyinterested · 09/08/2022 20:21

No, generally I don't. It's too easy to trot to the doctors (assuming you can an appt) and claim stress / depression. I've seen too many people do it. There are posts on Mumsnet all the time about getting signed off for a few days or a week just for a break. It can't be proved either way so it's a great excuse. And it means that the people who genuinely do have high stress levels or depression still don't get any help or sympathy because we're all so sick of the time-wasters and fakers.

I see.

Kanaloa · 09/08/2022 20:25

Sunnyqueen · 09/08/2022 20:22

The ones who actually do have shit mental health just get up and go to work and don't say anything to anyone.

That's where you are wrong. If you can suck it up and go to work and not say anything to anyone then you don't have shit mental health. The ones with genuine shit mental health are either confined to their houses or on a psychiatrict ward. Or possibly wandering the streets jabbering away nonsense.
Also talking about it doesn't mean you don't have it.
I can talk about my experiences openly because I've had that much therapy and gone over it all a million times out loud it's not difficult to talk about it.

You can have poor mental health without being confined to hospital or profoundly unwell with it. That’s like saying ‘you don’t have a physical disability unless you’re bed bound.’ Some people have bad mental health issues and can work. Others can’t.

XenoBitch · 09/08/2022 20:27

The ones who actually do have shit mental health just get up and go to work and don't say anything to anyone

That is not fair or true. That implies that anyone who talks about it does not have poor mental health. There is a mental health board on MN. Are the people who post there not genuine because they are talking about it?

When I was sectioned, I put it on FB. I was honestly really shocked about it, and wanted to raise awareness about how it could happen to people that you thought were "doing ok".

ThickCutSteakChips · 09/08/2022 20:27

The only time crying is vaguely acceptable on social media is if you are talking on stories and the subject matter is upsetting you start getting upset whilst you are talking. Non-wankers will stop filming and compose themselves before continuing with the stories.

Picking up the phone and taking a photo or starting to film mid cry is just total wankery.

doilookremotelyinterested · 09/08/2022 20:32

Sunnyqueen · 09/08/2022 20:22

The ones who actually do have shit mental health just get up and go to work and don't say anything to anyone.

That's where you are wrong. If you can suck it up and go to work and not say anything to anyone then you don't have shit mental health. The ones with genuine shit mental health are either confined to their houses or on a psychiatrict ward. Or possibly wandering the streets jabbering away nonsense.
Also talking about it doesn't mean you don't have it.
I can talk about my experiences openly because I've had that much therapy and gone over it all a million times out loud it's not difficult to talk about it.

Well I guess we'll have to agree to differ. I take it that you're one of those people who constantly talks about your 'experiences'? That must be fun for everyone else. Me, I've done depression and anxiety for c35 years. Anti-depressants 3 times, 5 or 6 counsellors, ruled out every method of suicide as not guaranteeing success, and 1 day off work. Because you know something, when you're a single adult you have to get up and go to work. They don't pay you to sit at home and take pictures of yourself crying. And if you keep busy and try to think about other people occasionally then your brain will actually let you feel that little bit better. And then you go home and fall apart in private before pulling yourself together the next day and being an adult again.

doilookremotelyinterested · 09/08/2022 20:34

XenoBitch · 09/08/2022 20:27

The ones who actually do have shit mental health just get up and go to work and don't say anything to anyone

That is not fair or true. That implies that anyone who talks about it does not have poor mental health. There is a mental health board on MN. Are the people who post there not genuine because they are talking about it?

When I was sectioned, I put it on FB. I was honestly really shocked about it, and wanted to raise awareness about how it could happen to people that you thought were "doing ok".

I'm not talking about serious mental health episodes where we're talking hospitalisation, I'm talking about attention-seeking wankers who pretend they're struggling to get more attention and then 5 minutes later have forgotten it completely and are off out enjoying themselves.

Sunnyqueen · 09/08/2022 20:43

Well I guess we'll have to agree to differ. I take it that you're one of those people who constantly talks about your 'experiences'? That must be fun for everyone else.

That's nice, but no I don't 😂this is a thread specifically about mental health which is why I am talking about it here 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️.

1 day off work. Because you know something, when you're a single adult you have to get up and go to work.
**
Yeah psychosis doesn't really work that way. You kinda forget you have a job when your searching for your not real long lost family in a completely different city because you need to tell them your the messiah🙄😂

Kanaloa · 09/08/2022 20:48

I take it that you're one of those people who constantly talks about your 'experiences'?

Me, I've done depression and anxiety for c35 years. Anti-depressants 3 times, 5 or 6 counsellors, ruled out every method of suicide as not guaranteeing success

Erm… so what is it? Surely your ‘experiences’ don’t count now then?

ReneBumsWombats · 09/08/2022 20:51

doilookremotelyinterested · 09/08/2022 20:32

Well I guess we'll have to agree to differ. I take it that you're one of those people who constantly talks about your 'experiences'? That must be fun for everyone else. Me, I've done depression and anxiety for c35 years. Anti-depressants 3 times, 5 or 6 counsellors, ruled out every method of suicide as not guaranteeing success, and 1 day off work. Because you know something, when you're a single adult you have to get up and go to work. They don't pay you to sit at home and take pictures of yourself crying. And if you keep busy and try to think about other people occasionally then your brain will actually let you feel that little bit better. And then you go home and fall apart in private before pulling yourself together the next day and being an adult again.

It's pretty clear that you think it's morally superior not to take time off for mental health, and you are therefore angry with those who do. Whether that's because you're jealous or you think their choices undermine yours, I can't say, but it's very clear that the idea that you are offended by the idea that people who are no more ill than you should not feel, as you do, that it's noble to suffer.

You can make different choices. It doesn't mean giving up entirely or not making an effort to get better, but there is no superiority in it.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 09/08/2022 20:51

It really bothered me too OP. These billionaires are so unbelievably removed from reality that’s is laughable they think people can relate to them. I actually prefer a flash celeb who owns their wealth than one who pretends they’re just like everybody else

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 09/08/2022 20:53

hattie43 · 09/08/2022 14:31

I am astounded at the number of young people who just can't manage life . They have no resilience at all and it makes you wonder what they would do in a real emergency or traumatic situation

I’ve expressed this on another thread recently but I have known a number of young people who cannot hack it in the workplace anymore. Customer facing roles where one customer is a bit rude and they crumble, quit and get their mum to call their ex-workplace to say how mean they are. It’s extraordinary

SleepingStandingUp · 09/08/2022 20:56

The ones who actually do have shit mental health just get up and go to work and don't say anything to anyone.
Presumably we can disband the Samaritans as anyone phoning them and talking about their suicidal feelings must be making it up according to this logic?

doilookremotelyinterested · 09/08/2022 21:04

It's pretty clear that you think it's morally superior not to take time off for mental health, and you are therefore angry with those who do.
I get angry with people who make a song and dance about it publicly when there's fuck all wrong with them. People who ring the Samaritans are doing so privately, they're not making the call while videoing it on social media. I don't have a problem with people who are genuinely ill, I do have a problem with those who fake it for attention and make everything about themselves. Someone who genuinely can't function well enough to work, fine. Someone who decides they want a couple of days off just for the hell of it and claims stress or depression as an excuse because they can't be challenged? Yes that's a problem, because the one who is genuinely struggling can't ask for help because the pitch has been well and truly queered by the fakers.

LaurieFairyCake · 09/08/2022 21:10

Anyone who wanks on using social media can fuck off

Just stupid as fuck

ReneBumsWombats · 09/08/2022 21:14

doilookremotelyinterested · 09/08/2022 21:04

It's pretty clear that you think it's morally superior not to take time off for mental health, and you are therefore angry with those who do.
I get angry with people who make a song and dance about it publicly when there's fuck all wrong with them. People who ring the Samaritans are doing so privately, they're not making the call while videoing it on social media. I don't have a problem with people who are genuinely ill, I do have a problem with those who fake it for attention and make everything about themselves. Someone who genuinely can't function well enough to work, fine. Someone who decides they want a couple of days off just for the hell of it and claims stress or depression as an excuse because they can't be challenged? Yes that's a problem, because the one who is genuinely struggling can't ask for help because the pitch has been well and truly queered by the fakers.

But according to you, anyone who takes time off or makes any kind of public statement is a faker. Would you say the same if they spoke publicly about a physical illness?

I'm sure many people would say that since you appear to function fine, there's nothing wrong with you either and you'd be faking if you sought help. Do they know you?

You clearly subscribe to the idea that there's something superior in how you choose to manage your conditions, to the point where you are angry with those who don't agree that there's any superiority in it.

pigeonstreet123 · 09/08/2022 21:25

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet

Agree

The world is going to standstill soon. Everyone will be sharing the ins and outs of their feelings on social media whilst flaking out of
Their responsibility and refusing to work.

There has to be balance.

Yes! Have emotions. Have anxiety. Its normal. Anxiety is a normal human emotion. It doesn't make you special or different

But ffs, find a way to cope. Build some resilience

Whattodoaboutworknow · 09/08/2022 21:33

PeloAddict · 09/08/2022 14:34

Sometimes it's the small things though. Everyone copes differently with different things. I'm the most resilient person you will meet, if you need CPR doing, or your leg is hanging off and you need me to hold someone's hand when they die, I'm fine and will be the calm person fixing things

It's small things that tend to tip me over the edge, and anything to do with my pets

Wow @PeloAddict I could have wrote this about myself, thanks for explaining so well!

pigeonstreet123 · 09/08/2022 21:38

An employee recently told me (in advance) they would like to book a few days off for their mental health

Yes! In the old days we called it annual leave. A break! A holiday

We ALL need it. It's mandatory

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 09/08/2022 21:41

I am a manager and employ apprentices, though we have slowly gone on to employ permanent staff due to the consistently useless blubbering messes who go home in the middle of the day at the slightest bit of constructive criticism.

More and more apprentices are asking about mental health days. No we don’t give them out, and that won’t be happening. If you want a day off you can book it 2 weeks in advance as per company policy. If you call in saying you’d like a MH day or ‘duvet day’ it will go down as unauthorised absence unless there is a medical issue.

Pisses me right off!

EmeraldShamrock1 · 09/08/2022 21:44

She is late to the party.

Celebrities and the fans have been crying into the camera for sometime displaying any upset in their life weeping like fools gathering sympathy.

pigeonstreet123 · 09/08/2022 21:52

It is good to destigmatise mental health.

I think its good to share and talk. I know we have had a difficult few years with covid.

But blimey! Its an epidemic. Everyone is incapable of handling adversity. Our ancestors lived tougher lives. My grandparents lived through a world war. They had their homes
Bombed. They carried on

We're so lucky.

ReneBumsWombats · 09/08/2022 21:58

Our ancestors lived tougher lives. My grandparents lived through a world war. They had their homesBombed. They carried on

A lot of people of the war generation were extremely damaged by it and their spouses and children paid the price.

IWasFunBeforeMum · 09/08/2022 22:06

I know she has a lot going on but check out Louise Thompson on Instagram if you want to see lots of crying videos and images.

Giraffesandbottoms · 10/08/2022 05:28

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet

i hired someone of this younger generation this summer - fuck me it has been eye opening. Nice girl but the level of entitlement and complaints re NOTHING etc have been baffling. Plus absurd wage expectation. Things have really really changed since I was 20, and that’s only 10 years ago

SueToTo34 · 10/08/2022 06:05

I believe posting pictures of yourself crying is what the Victorians referred to as hysteria.

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