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To think posting pictures of yourself crying is literally a cry for help?

149 replies

JeezooosMaryandJoseph · 09/08/2022 14:25

I want to make it clear that I am not making light of anyone’s mental health issues - and if that’s how this comes across, I apologise in advance. I also apologise if I don’t know the whole story.

To be honest though, I was a little eye-rolley about that woman that recently married Brooklyn Beckham this week when she posted a picture of herself on Instagram showing she was crying. I feel it’s a bit of a slap in the face to anyone who is living in desperate times (poverty being one of the main reasons).

I’m not saying for a second rich people can’t be upset but positing it on a site that thousands/millions of people can access feels a little bit wrong and self absorbed to me. AIBU?

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BlackbirdsSinging · 09/08/2022 15:22

Posting it on social media does suggest a touch of dramatics…

Giraffesandbottoms · 09/08/2022 15:25

We live in a time where someone being anxious = Anxiety. Someone feeling depressed = Depression. And so on and so forth. It’s absurd and it trivialises people who are actually struggling with their mental health. It’s all extremely self indulgent and I am sick of it. People basically have too much/things are too easy so they have to find problems.

35965a · 09/08/2022 15:26

It’s a cry for attention. I don’t know anyone who has taken a photo of themselves crying. It’s weird. Then to post it online. Even more weird.

FlatBottomedGirl · 09/08/2022 15:28

Yep, as an over emotional crier I could never imagine taking a photo of myself when I feel so low never mind posting it. Cannot stand attention seekers.

RuthBrenner · 09/08/2022 15:30

Had she been flicking through that photography book he did?

SquirrelFan · 09/08/2022 15:33

Omg, and she's lying on satin sheets.

Cornettoninja · 09/08/2022 15:38

ChagSameachDoreen · 09/08/2022 14:28

It's pathetic. We've turned into a society of emotional incontinents.

I don’t know if that’s true, I think it’s largely because the mediums available to us have changed. Young(er than me!) people are more likely to turn to social media than write in an angst filled diary they keep hidden away.

Suuuugar · 09/08/2022 15:48

Am I the only one who can't find this picture?!..

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 09/08/2022 15:52

OK, I'd never post a picture or video of myself crying.

However, a few of times as a teenager, I got upset in public (I had traumatic teenage years with insomnia, anxiety etc) and cried in public. I just couldn't help myself and no matter what anyone tried to do to get me to stop, I couldn't. Later on in my life, if I got upset, I tried really hard not to cry in public, or to go for a walk, coffee or anything else.

CannaeRemember · 09/08/2022 15:53

PeloAddict · 09/08/2022 14:34

Sometimes it's the small things though. Everyone copes differently with different things. I'm the most resilient person you will meet, if you need CPR doing, or your leg is hanging off and you need me to hold someone's hand when they die, I'm fine and will be the calm person fixing things

It's small things that tend to tip me over the edge, and anything to do with my pets

@PeloAddict Yes, I agree. Big stuff - fine, have at it, can get through this perfectly well and support a multitude of other people along the way. Small stuff - might have a weep. My dog's paw is sore right now so he's limping and I can't bear it! (Though practicality kicked in and he's off to the vet).

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 09/08/2022 15:53

FlatBottomedGirl · 09/08/2022 15:28

Yep, as an over emotional crier I could never imagine taking a photo of myself when I feel so low never mind posting it. Cannot stand attention seekers.

Ah - I feel a bit better now (not so much like it these days!) - as I think I was an over emotional crier when younger. I mean there's nothing wrong with crying to be fair, far better doing that rather than holding it all in and getting upset and stressed.

Dalaidramailama · 09/08/2022 15:55

You should have posted your original “posting pictures of yourself crying is self absorbed”. It’s just too poor me isn’t it?

Ridiculous.

FlatBottomedGirl · 09/08/2022 15:55

@GonnaGetGoingReturns nothing wrong with a good blub! Sometimes it leaks out and you're powerless to stop it! It's the blubbing selfies 🙄

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 09/08/2022 15:56

Giraffesandbottoms · 09/08/2022 15:25

We live in a time where someone being anxious = Anxiety. Someone feeling depressed = Depression. And so on and so forth. It’s absurd and it trivialises people who are actually struggling with their mental health. It’s all extremely self indulgent and I am sick of it. People basically have too much/things are too easy so they have to find problems.

Very true. Back in the early to mid 80s when I first suffered with anxiety/depression I had no idea what it was (actually severe PMS/T and also bad reactions to puberty/hormone changes) and no doctors really knew much about it. So stuffed me full of Valium, sleeping pills etc - but luckily only for short periods as my DM got me off them.

Really irritates me by how much people (and even friends) say they have anxiety and they've got no idea of what anxiety really is.

Dalaidramailama · 09/08/2022 15:57

@Giraffesandbottoms

Your post sums up the reason why I left the mental health sector. The trivialised indulgence was too much to bare in the end and it felt like that portion of society was louder than the people who genuinely needed help. I couldn’t stick it any longer and I wasn’t alone. Many have left now for similar reasons.

Giraffesandbottoms · 09/08/2022 16:21

@Dalaidramailama

I am not surprised. I basically think that if people lived in another time, they (the people who are, in my opinion, basically “faking it”, not the probably quite small percentage of people with actual illnesses) would be getting their shit together and going to work because otherwise they would die. Not lolling around with “anxiety” and “mental health issues”.

Gatehouse77 · 09/08/2022 16:28

As with others areas, language has been used in general terms and is often conflated now that we have more specific language for certain conditions. Some people do it innocently, some do it for personal or political gain.

As a PP said up thread, anxious (normal), anxiety (crippling); feeling down (normal), depression (crippling); etc.

SleepingStandingUp · 09/08/2022 16:32

I'm not sure there's any time I've been sobby sad where I've thought I know, I'll record this and post it on to SM. I just don't get the thought process.

10HailMarys · 09/08/2022 16:41

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 09/08/2022 15:52

OK, I'd never post a picture or video of myself crying.

However, a few of times as a teenager, I got upset in public (I had traumatic teenage years with insomnia, anxiety etc) and cried in public. I just couldn't help myself and no matter what anyone tried to do to get me to stop, I couldn't. Later on in my life, if I got upset, I tried really hard not to cry in public, or to go for a walk, coffee or anything else.

Loads of people can't help crying in public - that's normal. Not everyone can stop themselves and I would never think someone crying in public was looking for attention. On the rare occasions I've seen someone crying on a train or in the loos at a pub or something, I've always asked if they were OK because they're clearly upset and might need help.

Posting a picture to make more people aware of the fact you were crying is, I think, very different from that. It's attention-seeking, definitely, and I find it irritating. There are better ways to discuss mental health.

However, ultimately it's not a crime to seek attention and people can post what they want on their own social media for whatever reason they like.

If people choose to follow her or read about her, they're buying into it and lapping it up even if it's a hate-follow situation.

I wouldn't follow the type of person who posts pictures of their crying face; it's not my bag at all. But I don't personally feel that the fact that normal people are struggling and she's a billionaire has any relevance - for me that's just getting into whataboutery territory.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 09/08/2022 17:18

10HailMarys · 09/08/2022 16:41

Loads of people can't help crying in public - that's normal. Not everyone can stop themselves and I would never think someone crying in public was looking for attention. On the rare occasions I've seen someone crying on a train or in the loos at a pub or something, I've always asked if they were OK because they're clearly upset and might need help.

Posting a picture to make more people aware of the fact you were crying is, I think, very different from that. It's attention-seeking, definitely, and I find it irritating. There are better ways to discuss mental health.

However, ultimately it's not a crime to seek attention and people can post what they want on their own social media for whatever reason they like.

If people choose to follow her or read about her, they're buying into it and lapping it up even if it's a hate-follow situation.

I wouldn't follow the type of person who posts pictures of their crying face; it's not my bag at all. But I don't personally feel that the fact that normal people are struggling and she's a billionaire has any relevance - for me that's just getting into whataboutery territory.

You've made me feel so much better about how I was as a teenager! (and when I went through a particularly bad break up at 30, ended up on Prozac etc!). I used to feel like I wasn't normal!

I had some teenagers/children laughing at me if I cried in the street when I was a teenager but I really couldn't help it if I got upset, dratted hormones! I can look back and laugh about it now but if I saw a teenage girl (or other person) crying in the street (don't really see it), if I have time, I sometimes stop to see if they're ok, need tissues etc. One day, it was after work, and there was a young woman crying on the train when I sat down next to her. I asked if she was ok and offered her a clean tissue and did she want a chat? She sat a bit upset but after about 5 minutes told me she'd had a really bad time that day, had been disciplined at work, her boyfriend had dumped her the day before and I sat and listened and let her talk until I got off.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 09/08/2022 17:21

Giraffesandbottoms · 09/08/2022 16:21

@Dalaidramailama

I am not surprised. I basically think that if people lived in another time, they (the people who are, in my opinion, basically “faking it”, not the probably quite small percentage of people with actual illnesses) would be getting their shit together and going to work because otherwise they would die. Not lolling around with “anxiety” and “mental health issues”.

I come from a time (and I'm not that old, only 50!) where I could take the odd day off for mental health issues and depression but generally it was, come in, deal with things and that was that.

One time I'd dumped a boyfriend I'd been with for 2 years, he'd left me an emotional wreck and I couldn't cope at work, even though I dumped him I was still upset and crying lots, couldn't stop. But I got Prozac from the doctor, got counselling for after work and went to work and got on with things, as you do!

Bonheurdupasse · 09/08/2022 17:25

Giraffesandbottoms · 09/08/2022 16:21

@Dalaidramailama

I am not surprised. I basically think that if people lived in another time, they (the people who are, in my opinion, basically “faking it”, not the probably quite small percentage of people with actual illnesses) would be getting their shit together and going to work because otherwise they would die. Not lolling around with “anxiety” and “mental health issues”.

Exactly!

I won't "godwin" the thread and say "but people in Ukraine/Ethiopia would roll their eyes if they saw this self indulgence".
But really.
People in Peru or Mexico or Romania etc etc (i.e. not the first world) would laugh at these people and their "anxiety" / "depression" etc. Because they have actual problems and they get on with solving them as much as they can.

Deguster · 09/08/2022 17:29

We live in a time where someone being anxious = Anxiety. Someone feeling depressed = Depression. And so on and so forth. It’s absurd and it trivialises people who are actually struggling with their mental health. It’s all extremely self indulgent and I am sick of it. People basically have too much/things are too easy so they have to find problems

Yes, this. I’ve been a people manager for decades but millennials have broken my will to live.

sad =/= depressed
having more than one task =/= stress
a realistic hard deadline =/= an unreasonable imposition on your work/life balance

I saw the post and rolled my eyes into orbit tbh.

HailAdrian · 09/08/2022 17:32

It makes me cringe hard and I cry a lot.

Dalaidramailama · 09/08/2022 17:33

@GonnaGetGoingReturns

Sounds like you were of the era where people at least attempted to take responsibility for their mental health as opposed to this god awful self indulgence that is currently permeating throughout society.

My Nan was a diagnosed schizophrenic with repeated hospital admissions. Always interspersed with periods where she was well, but very much sticking to healthy habits in order to stay well. (A good routine, lots of sleep, making time for her religion which was important to her etc etc). At no point did she grotesquely attention seek like many do today because they’re simply feeling a bit down in the dumps.

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