Are you a feminist, if yes, what does it mean to you?

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YANBU = I’m am
YABU = I am not

Do you realise that Fausto-Sterling has admitted that she wrote about five sexes as 'tongue in cheek'?

Flores et al (2021) “Gender Identity Disparities in Criminal Victimisation” and Pearce et al (2020) “TERF wars: An introduction” shows that transgender women are more at risk of sexual assault and violence than biological women

When they "live their lives as female" I assume that means they take a pay cut and statistically progress more slowly through their career because of the likelihood of them taking time off to give birth, breastfeed and do the majority of childcare?

Or do you just mean they wear heels and lipstick?

What you literally said is "I'm not a feminist" and I agreed with you.

Sorry, you don't know of any females who have been banned from sport? And should I assume then , you have not established the healthy testosterone ranges for males and females, or even the extreme range of female testosterone that is the result of tumours and other significant health limiting issues?

Sorry, I am going to repeat my question from above. Do you understand that people with differences of sex development can be reliably categorised into either male or female sex categories?

How did you get this passed in your thesis?

The five sexes isn’t relevant to this work? And even if it was, read the other source :)

Hmm another post where op seems to have disappeared.

@wellhelloitsme I hope you do. I would hate to think of you all being constantly angry at men 24/7. Very draining. Do you also take breaks from assuming all trans women are only trans so they can attack women more easily and beat women at sport?

This.

There are no degrees of womanhood. You are either a woman or you are not.

If you are male, you are not.

In the UK it is much safer to be a tw than a woman. Either way, fighting for safety for tw does not mean ignoring reality. Again, womanhood is not a prize you get for suffering.

1. Centring women and girls
2. Eradicating violence against women and girls
3. Ensuring women and girls have choice and agency in their lives
4. Thinking that at some point I’m going to be put in a very difficult position where I have to chose between feminism as I see it, and my job

Excellent post.
Allowing TW into women’s spaces means you have to allow the man who raped me (because I had the temerity to tell him I didn’t want to have a relationship) access to women and children in vulnerable situations. And one thing I do know in life is that he should never be allowed anywhere near anyone, let alone teenagers.

I really could not care less why anyone is trans, because it is completely irrelevant to what a woman is, or who should be allowed into which single sex spaces and sporting categories.

My thesis wasn’t in biology, and even so wouldn’t need a list of women banned. I believe women with higher testosterone levels are women, you don’t, fine. Yes I know people are categorised into male or female categories, but this has changed over time based on who we want to exclude, and historically excluded non-white women, something which I also wrote about in my thesis. If you’re so desperate to read it let me know you’re address and I’ll post you a copy x

@Pinksandblues interesting post thank you. I am of the view point of womens spaces, mens spaces, mixed spaces and single spaces. Depending on the situation, inclusivity and safety both considered. Not that simple though I know.

Yes I know people are categorised into male or female categories, but this has changed over time based on who we want to exclude, and historically excluded non-white women, something which I also wrote about in my thesis

When did it exclude 'non white women'?

I hope you're aware that some of your previous posts on this thread have been deleted for racism electricdreaming. Maybe it's time you stepped back from using 'non white women' as a basis for your arguments.

Pearce et al 2020, Westbrook & Schilt 2013, Patel 2017 and the Combahee River Collective 1983 all discuss this.

Do people accept that there is such a thing as the female and male reproductive systems, and reproductive roles? Or do you think that we can't call them that as some people belonging to each sex don't have every single element functional and present? Genuine question.

Actually, you are right. Five sexes probably is not relevant.

What is actually important to your claim is:

1. that only males with differences in sex development are tested, sometimes excluded, currently, from some female sporting events or are limited in any way.

2. that differences in sex development can be reliably categorised into either male or female conditions in almost all cases.

3. males who go through any androgenised puberty have advantages over females and this applies also to those males that have testes that are not visible to the eye and may have been assigned 'female' at the time of their birth.

4. the female testosterone level range has very little overlap with males (even those with differences of sex development that can process hormones in the same way as other males (ie. not those males with CAIS) and saying 'females with high testosterone' may well be misinformation.

5. if any female has been wrongfully banned from sport because of the way they look or their testosterone, let's get together and fight for them that this never happens again and if they are still current athletes, for them to be able to participate.

It’s not a basis for my arguments at all and it’s not racist to say that black women have historically been viewed as hyper masculine. If anything it’s highlighting the racist abuse they’ve experienced - please feel free to read the sources I have posted to develop your understanding of this.

Pearce et al 2020, Westbrook & Schilt 2013, Patel 2017 and the Combahee River Collective 1983 all discuss this

Im asking you, not those people. Can YOU give me some examples?

And I don’t have the time to write out other peoples work to you - if you want to understand how black women have been discriminated against in terms of their gender/sex and excluded from womanhood, please read the sources. They explain it far better than I could.

If you’re so desperate to read it let me know you’re address and I’ll post you a copy

I was actually more interested in whether you had research that was relevant and whether your claims had merit and were not based on misinformation.

So, when you say 'female' we can now assume that you mean 'woman' then?

It’s not a basis for my arguments at all and it’s not racist to say that black women have historically been viewed as hyper masculine. If anything it’s highlighting the racist abuse they’ve experienced - please feel free to read the sources I have posted to develop your understanding of this

No, this is a discussion forum, people discuss here not just link. Do you have any examples?