Haunted house scaring the shit out of me

[Goawayghosts]

Deliberately OTT title and I’m not into the paranormal but I’m getting freaked out in my house.

We’ve lived here 10 years. The house is only 20 years old. Built on marsh land.

A year or so after we moved in weird shit started happening. Stuff moving around, noises, dog going nuts in certain rooms, doors opening by themselves etc. DH got freaked out by it and started getting angry at me everytime I mentioned it. He outright refused to discuss it but admitted he had seen and heard the same stuff as me.

Then it all stopped. Nothing happened for years. All good.

Then, a couple of weeks ago I was messing on my phone and behind me I saw a shadow go past in the hallway out of the corner of my eye and heard it brush along the wall. The dog (different dog) flew over me barking and growling, all heckles raised. Back door was locked, there was no way anyone could have got in without me (or the dog) hearing the front door. I sent the dog around the whole house - nothing at all. I put it to the back of my mind but ever since the noises have started up again - footsteps on the first floor, doors opening and closing, muffled voices

DH has heard it too and is laughing it off saying the ghost is back but he too is randomly sending the dog into rooms and upstairs before him and telling me not to be stupid when I mention it. It’s seriously starting to freak me out.

It happened again 10 minutes ago … the sound of the floorboards creaking upstairs in the pattern of footsteps - DH looked up and muted the TV - then the sound of something being moved. I said “You’re not telling me you didn’t hear that?” And he said “I’m not getting into this shit again” and turned the TV up.

it’s a detached house, we don’t have neighbours. WTF is it??

Yeah, him and all the other scientists of history who are unfairly accused of believing that the world was flat!

Rats 🐀 you n the loft maybe ?

Sir Isaac Newton devoted a considerable portion of his time to studying and writing on alchemy, and other esoteric and occult subjects, and maintained one of the finest personal libraries on alchemy in the world.

What the fuck is an accredited medium?

Do you realise how fucking insane that is? The Catholic Chruch whose whole existence is based on them being the ones who have all the spiritual knowledge and the ability to use it would completely undercut their entire purpose by subcontracting out?

Think for a second how completely bat shit that would be.

Convenient or simply the limitations of the scientific method.

I didn’t say they can’t be sensed or perceived but that’s different to being submitted to scientific methods in lab conditions.

@Vincitveritas

Im just saying that if the clergy themselves are not living by Christs words then how can they claim to be a vessel for his power (and it’s actually the power of God as a whole or in any part - as Catholics believe the trinity to be) more so than that of Jesus himself which is usually called.

Catholic priests can still claim to be living by the same laws as their forebears have for a 1000 years and dating back to Christ. Imo Church of England clergy have changed their rules so often and become so modernised and “progressive” that they are utterly unlike what they were in the past - and by doing so have basically said that gods word isn’t eternal but changes depending on what’s fashionable in society at the time - which flies in the face of being a true believer.

Im not for sure a believer, I think many religions have great aspects, but imo those who modernise too much lose touch with God because they’re in effect saying “what we said was gods word before doesn’t matter, this is the direction society is going so we follow” - in doing that they’re saying that they either don’t believe in God - or else staying relevant is more important than following Gods word - pretty crappy attitude for clergy imo.

Accredited by whom? What’s the professional body that accredits them?

They have too. What else can they retort with? They have nothing other than personal attacks.

Usually it goes -

Starwman (You can't say it doesn't exist just because you have seen it).

Detailed personal experience (I think this is dual purpose, one they think they're story is a gotcha because you can't explain it and two they enjoy telling it and hope a third party will get invested),

Asking you to explain personal story with prepared responses about why all logical explanations can't apply. Note here they are half hoping you call them a liar thus justifying it when they move on to the inevitable.

Personal attacks.

Interesting. So a genuine question, how do the spiritual medium people help the ghost to find peace and move on? What is it the ghost is presumably looking for? I always understood that the theory is that there is an unresolved issue that the ghost has in the area? In that case the concentration camps must be riddled with ghosts.

@PixellatedPixie People of different faiths or none at all are welcome to seek help in the church. I would say though that the act of exorcism/deliverance may not be as effective as it's faith based.

The souls of those poor little children are in Heaven.

@Miffee

There is no way that is true - it would defeat the whole purpose of only a priest (with special training and Vatican permission) being able to do an exorcism in the first place if every one with a tarot deck could just run around doing them effectively.

If anything the Catholic Church has spend their time battling such people who they see as charlatans.

Im not saying other people couldn’t possess that power but I don’t think anything like that would ever get Vatican approval. Although then again I guess they’ve got a lot of secrets.

I didn't think for a second it was true. Its obviously not. Even of you believe in ghosts I don't see how a rational human can believe this after 3 minutes thought.

Ah @Miffee, bless your ignorance. I wonder if you take the same stance with every other thing you have never personally experienced. Like I said. So happy that I don't live with such a closed mind.
As for accredited mediums, you might be interested to know that the likes of Derek A et all, don't fall into that category. There are strict rules of conduct

This is a very rational and well made point! It also ties into my previous point about the Catholic Church’s years of sexually abusing and even murdering people, including people in my family. If anything, the priests should be the ones getting haunted by their victims!

Ghosts do exist

years ago as in like 50 my brother as a baby /toddler wouldn’t sleep in the box room. Screamed etc

mum got a priest in and blessed the room and out a cross in it. Apparently an old man died there - I slept fine there after this was done

years ago at my work house I (and my friends who babysat) would hear footsteps above me. Kids asleep in bed.

dog would sometimes growl /cower at a chair and I saw a dark man shape figure there

see if anyone has died in the house @Goawayghosts and get someone in to bless the house

This attempt at a patronising tone would be a lot more convincing if it was coupled with anything at all to challenge my argument. Or indeed answer my questions.

I would be very surprised if the Catholic church did use Mediums. 'Christians', on the whole, don't believe human souls can hang around on Earth. They are either in Heaven, in the presence of God or in Hades awaiting judgement.

Also I am sure that even Catholic priests don’t start from the assumption that every alleged haunting is genuine.

Interesting. So a genuine question, how do the spiritual medium people help the ghost to find peace and move on? What is it the ghost is presumably looking for? I always understood that the theory is that there is an unresolved issue that the ghost has in the area? In that case the concentration camps must be riddled with ghosts.

@PixellatedPixie there are many reasons spirits get "stuck" on this plain, from missing their "doorway" so to speak as death was a shock to them, to not wanting to leave loved ones, having unfinished business, or simply not wanting to leave this plain for fear of having lived a bad life & fear of what's to come to them as punishment, sometimes spirits are trapped & manipulated by other more evil minded spirits too. This can happen with child spirits, but they can be helped to break away.

I do think the stone tape theory applies a lot more to sites that have experienced true horror though & in those cases there is no actual spirits involved, just a video recording so to speak

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I've been reading the thread and internally shouting "hanged!" each time I read hung.

Actually that might explain it. Perhaps the priests send them to spiritualists as they cannot be arsed hearing about somebody's dog and moldy wall? Just not worth the effort.

Only an accredited* spiritualist obviously.

This attempt at a patronising tone would be a lot more convincing if it was coupled with anything at all to challenge my argument. Or indeed answer my questions.

@Miffee whatever gave you the impression that it's my job to enlighten you. How weird to expect that from randoms on the net🥴

Then don't respond sweetie, as you are giving the impression you only have snark and no substance.

Wonder why that could be?

Personal experience is worthless. Humans are so ridiculously unreliable (look into crime witnesses for all the strange stuff people would swear happened which turned out to be completely false).

But you're expecting we should not only believe personal experience, but believe it even when it defies the laws of physics?

Very interested in what possible mechanism could exist that allows something to have a perceptible effect within the rather limited spectrum of the human sense and yet can't be measured in any way. Especially as people claim ghosts can be recorded.