Sweet Caroline - please stop!

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It's got zero to do with football or sport, please sing something else. John Barnes rap is preferable, really.

Regardless of its origins I agree with you OP. A song for an England winning sports team could at least be one from one of the many excellent songwriters and musicians that come from these shores. Music is one of our great cultural exports.

We Are The Champions seems much more appropriate. But of course there'll be folks who don't like that too.

Done to death already.

Songs that fans sing don't have to have something to do with football. Once a song is sung it can catch on quickly and then be sung all the time.

I'm Scottish. We sing " yes sir, I can boogie" and "achy breaky heart" - although the words for that one are changed

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Please don't associate rod stewart with rangers fans

I didn't.

Vindaloo is our favourite!

🎵 Me and me mum and me dad and me gran we're off Waterloo 🎵

It’s got more to do with football as sweet chariots has to do with rugby (a slave song)

Again, an understanding of words and lyrics would provide clarity.

In rugby you ‘carry the ball home’

Probably makes a bit more sense now, albeit not necessarily an appropriate song.

It's for the players to celebrate too.... nobody owns the song for their sport, it's for anyone

And the lionesses seem to like it so 🤷‍♀️

Agreed

I say that as a non Football Fan .
Did watch yesterday though and do watch the games England are in in Euros or World Cup.

Interesting association.

it’s still a slave song and utterly bizzare choice.

Yes, it is a slave song, and not necessarily appropriate, although I don’t think many people will have known that at the time and the internet wasn’t really a thing (can’t remember the year it was first sung but it was a long time ago).

The choice is based on the lyrics as explained. So I’m that sole context and in the absence of knowing what the song was about, it’s really not bizarre at all. The same wisely available information we have today, wasn’t as widely available back then.

England fans started this association btw, not the players.

It’s a truly awful song.

Much prefer Baccara - Yes Sir, I Can Boogie.

Lol @MrsDThomas "Championaaaaaays" makes my ears bleed.

It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the incessant SO GOOD SO GOOD SO GOOD bit.

it’s still a slave song and utterly bizzare choice.

I think it's been around since at least the 60s . Way before the internet and proper understanding of provenance. These things evolve into tradition. Referring to it as "a choice " doesn't show much appreciation of how these things come about.

Based on the lyrics and tune it's not really 'bizarre' or at least in contrast, generations of fans hadn't thought so.

Watched the Team at Trafalgar Square on the TV
Had to turn it down as, once again, THAT Song blared out

I think I reached Peak Sweet Caroline

Where has it come from? They were playing it at the jubilee, football... why? I've always disliked it anyway but if it had some relevance ( any relevance) I might understand but it doesn't. It's like the cheesiest karaoke song or the one that gets the Mum’s and dads up at a wedding. I find it patronising almost.

I could be wrong, but I think it came from last year's Euros. IIRC they just played it after England won the semi final, as part of that general playlist they do at the end of the match and the crowd went absolutely mad for it, and it was drowning out the punditry. Quite thrilling tbh. I don't recall it being a particular 'thing' for England matches before then.

Not John Barnes. For the love of God.

I associate with boxing.

However it's a bit of fun and unites the crowd in celebration. Don't have a problem with it.

I will be going to The Hundred and test match, both at Lord's, so there will be plenty of

• Sweet Caroline
• Hey Jude
• Another One Bites the Dust
• Tom Hark

Etc SC is originally a cricket song (maybe after baseball)

The song was written by Neil Diamond wasn’t it? He’s American for a start.
Have no idea what the relevance is with English football.

You'll Never Walk Alone (anthem of Liverpool FC for many decades) was written by Richard Rogers and Oscar Hammerstein: both American.

Blue Moon (Manchester City) was written by Richard Rogers and Lorenz Hart: both American.

Que Sera Sera (any club on a cup run) was written by Jay Livingston and Ray Evans: both American.

Why should Sweet Caroline be singled out just because Neil Diamond is American?