Cleaner bringing baby

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Genuinely not sure if IABU so honest opinions welcome. Sorry so long
My cleaner retired so I looked for another and found a small local company. The lady cleans herself and has a couple of people who work for her. She came to see me and we agreed they would do 3 hours per week but doubled up so would be there for 1.5 hours. All good, more than I was previously paying but that wasn’t a problem as they seemed very professional.
We are currently on holiday and the lady suggested they do a really deep clean while we were away. Again all good and I was prepared for it to take quite a while as my old cleaner really only surface cleaned and I just did the toilets etc regularly.
I told lady we had a Ring doorbell so I would know when they went in and out as I dint think it’s fair not to be honest about that. 2 cleaners came yesterday and were there for quite a while but needed to finish off today. Again, no issue with that.
I checked the Ring today and one cleaner arrived and unlocked the door, then instead of going in she stands with her back to the Ring Camera in what looks like a deliberate attempt to block it. There is no other reason to stand in that spot. Once she is “in position” she shouts to the other cleaner (couldn’t hear what) and then that cleaner walks up the drive and past her. The angle of the camera means that it is still possible to see the 2nd cleaner enter the door - with a toddler on her hip but it wouldn’t be obvious it was visible unless you knew exactly where the camera was pointing
They both go in and then both come out very briefly to take a stroller in. They stay for 2 hours and leave carrying toddler again. I messaged boss lady who said she would look into it and then messaged to say someone’s childcare had let them down.
So mnetters am I BU to be pissed off?

There was (looks to me) a deliberate attempt to block the camera
My house isn’t toddler friendly and could have been dangerous if the child wasn’t properly supervised at all times
I dont see how you can effectively clean while supervising a toddler.
I am minded to pay for yesterday in full but only for 1 cleaner today - so 2 hours instead of the 4 I was billed for, would that be reasonable?
Also, I am not sure that I want them to clean for me regularly now
What do other people think?

so all the parents working during lock down whilst their children were with them were inefficient?

Of course they were 😂 I was one of them (and as a single parent, only managed by working long days, early mornings & late nights to compensate.)

What planet are you on? No-one can work as efficiently with a child, especially a baby / toddler, in tow. That's wfh we have childcare!

Who the hell checks their doorbell footage to spy on cleaners when you don’t even know there’s been a rubbish clean?

She didn't spy oh them. She told them she'd a Ring doorbell. This means she's automatically notified when they enter.

YANBU for not being happy.
I am not sure I would refuse to pay for the 2nd hour - I would report it back to the company owner and tell them you were very unhappy about it and ask them what they are going to do.

However, there are some really odd answers on this thread.
Of course if you are away from your house and get a notification someone is going in to your house you would check all is well. Do people not understand what a ring doorbell is and how it works ?

Well seems I'm in the minority, which is fine by me. My home was never cleaner than it was through the baby/toddler years - although I was an LP I wasn't also a SAHP, little baby started going to childminders from a few weeks old so maybe the variation in continuous reponsibility helped me clean my home.

Anyways, 20 years later my home is borderline shitpit - so I wouldn't mind any cleaner coming with however many babies and toddlers they need to bring.

As long as it was cleaner than if they didn't come at all.

Unfortunately, that's a bit moot as I can't afford any cleaner. Just as OP is moot as he/she doesn't know how clean her home now is and is assuming that her 'perception' of the cleaners deliberately attempting to 'conceal' the child is correct.

You can only judge people on their own capabilities I guess.

not sure what your last sentence is about…

Lol, checking the ring doorbell takes a couple of seconds, it’s hardly taking hours out of her holiday.

YANBU. It’s one thing if someone asks beforehand, it’s another if they’re coming into your house being deliberately deceptive. That would piss me off too. Her childcare issues are not your problem.

Oh stop being obtuse.

Would you bring a baby to an office job or to your job as a shop assistant?

You ignored the rest of my post - yes, all paid jobs are a set of tasks but (as already said) in the case of cleaning one's own house, there are no expectations and responsibilities. You are not being paid. You can stop when you want & do tasks to the extent & level you want.

That's not the case for a job ie paid employment so it's entirely different.

And also - this is another person's house (namely her employer). You can't just decide to bring your child to your place of work!

The difference being that one is a paid job which can't be done half-arsed.

"Giver your head a wobble", very original, did that one make you feel big?

not sure what your last sentence is about…

It wasn't that hard to work out, surely 🙄

'Wfh' should have been 'why'

Sorry missed the 2 posts LMAO

You can't just decide to bring your child to your place of work!

Clearly you can because she did. Incidentally the employer is the cleaning agency, not OP who I suspect is a living nightmare to work for.

I reckon you should forget about it and enjoy your holiday. It's a one- off by the sounds of it. Good for you paying in full, as this cleaner could be struggling.

You can only judge people on their own capabilities I guess.

Nope.

No-one can look after children & work to the usual standards, at the same time.

Try reading the acres of news pieces on this, as well as many MN threads.

People did what they could, and like me, worked extra to make it work. When they'd no choice.

Older children needed was less direct care but babies & toddlers need to be properly supervised.

Silly me, out of all the 3 letter words it could have been why did I not realise it what that one. Maybe I am insane, perhaps your diagnosis was correct…

Sorry missed the 2 posts LMAO

You're strange & deliberately belligerent, I think.

These are 2 examples of many. Did you want me to c&p all the examples from, what, 25 years + of MN? 🙄

She did it - but she shouldn't have. No other employee would do similarly. The 'can' meant 'be allowed to' (not 'was able to physically') as I'd say you could surmise.

OP is 'living nightmare' because she'd like the job she's paying for to be done without someone also taking care of their child? Without asking permission. Give over.

She had a childcare emergency. Give her a break.

Silly me, out of all the 3 letter words it could have been why did I not realise it what that one.

Totally, it was impossible for you to deduce. Just far too hard. Poor you.

@Whataworldwelovei tbf you do sound like a complete nutcase based off your rambling posts. @EarringsandLipstick I wouldn't waste any more energy!

So she clears it with OP or rearranges then time / day.

"Giver your head a wobble", very original, did that one make you feel big?

And, ergo I refer to my later post "too stupid to know how stupid they are".

Its just a bit of irony, located in the recent history of language usage coupled wih a modern twist on parochial usage.

Now i feel big....
:)

You are right! I should desist ... 😀

And doesn’t try to deliberately hide it by blocking the camera

If you feel you need to, crack on.

The issue @EarringsandLipstick is whether the job was done properly and to the standard required. If it was nothing else is relevant - and OP has absolutely no idea whether it was or not. Most rational people would reserve judgement until they knew. Hence being a living nightmare.