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2 year old having shellac

222 replies

Glitterspy · 27/07/2022 14:49

I’m in the nail bar. It’s a hot humid afternoon. This place of stinks to high heaven of nail glue. Among the various women and nine year olds having their holiday nails done, is a 2 year old, sucking a dummy, having shellac nails done. They’re using the plug-in file on her tiny nails. The mum is here and argued with the salon owner who said she was too young, got really shitty and in her face to have it done, so it’s happening but the poor nail tech doesn’t look happy about it.

AIBU for hoicking my judgy pants and saying toddlers shouldn’t have shellac (damage to tiny nail beds, toxic chemicals, sexualisation of children as reasons off the top of my head)

YABU - it’s fine to shellac babies
YANBU - children should be seen and not shellac’ed

OP posts:
Propertyproblems5 · 27/07/2022 16:38

Annoyedwithmyself · 27/07/2022 15:00

This might actually alert me to the nail bar being a potential people trafficking front. Staff shouldn't be that afraid to refuse service.

I completely agree

StepAwayFromGoogling · 27/07/2022 16:39

I'd have squared up the abusive shit-for-brains mother but then DP is always saying someone's going to knife me one day. That said she'd probably have just gone round different salons until she could intimidate someone enough to do it. Some people don't deserve to be parents.

HELLITHURT · 27/07/2022 16:40

Nail bar is definitely dodgy!

Glitterspy · 27/07/2022 16:40

Ohthatsexciting · 27/07/2022 16:33

AIBU for hoicking my judgy pants

you should re word

AIBU for hoicking my judgy pants but do bugger all about it

Have you actually read my posts or are you just here to be weirdly aggressive about something you’ve just made up?

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iBrows · 27/07/2022 16:41

The mum getting the shellac put on her child is an idiot.

The person on this thread who made a racist comment about Chinese nail bars (which are predominantly Vietnamese, but you know, racism) is also an idiot.

Sadly there is probably nothing you can do as you don’t know who she is and can’t prove it happened. I guess the staff pandered to her for the same reason you didn’t say anything - she looked like she might kick off. It isn’t illegal to apply shellac to kids as far as I know. Just shit parenting.

bendmeoverbackwards · 27/07/2022 16:45

OMG I’ve read it all now 😳😳

I’ve recently had a row with my FIFTEEN year old dd because I refused to pay for her to get her nails done for a holiday. I stupidly let her last year, now she thinks it’s a done deal.

I don’t even like seeing little girls having polish applied in salons, it’s too much too soon. Let them mess around with polish at home

Louise0701 · 27/07/2022 16:45

@iBrows 😂😂😂😂😂

Thewolvesarerunningagain · 27/07/2022 16:49

iBrows · 27/07/2022 16:41

The mum getting the shellac put on her child is an idiot.

The person on this thread who made a racist comment about Chinese nail bars (which are predominantly Vietnamese, but you know, racism) is also an idiot.

Sadly there is probably nothing you can do as you don’t know who she is and can’t prove it happened. I guess the staff pandered to her for the same reason you didn’t say anything - she looked like she might kick off. It isn’t illegal to apply shellac to kids as far as I know. Just shit parenting.

It isn’t illegal in itself but it will violate their insurance, which is a requirement. No one would insure a salon to treat a toddler with shellac.

Theonlyoneiknow · 27/07/2022 16:52

WTAF! I have read many crazy things on here but that is one of the craziest!!

dcadmamagain · 27/07/2022 16:55

I really think a call to trading standard to report is needed here - that poor child

Ohthatsexciting · 27/07/2022 16:56

Glitterspy · 27/07/2022 16:40

Have you actually read my posts or are you just here to be weirdly aggressive about something you’ve just made up?

Thought I remembered your name from thread you started. I won’t comment because this sounds is a drop in the ocean as to the crap you’re dealing with in your personal life

Summerslam · 27/07/2022 16:57

Absolutely and totally wrong. Why is the nail technician going ahead with this? It can't be legal and is tantamount to child abuse.

iBrows · 27/07/2022 17:00

I’ve had a read and it is legal and looks like most insurers only ask that there is parental consent. Mental.

Madhatterrrrr · 27/07/2022 17:01

I was in a nail shop last week where a woman was paying for her 9 year old daughter to have a full set of acrylics done. Bewildering.

rosemarysageandthyme · 27/07/2022 17:03

How on earth does a 2 year old sit still long enough and how do they paint such tiny nails?

gogohmm · 27/07/2022 17:04

@Thewolvesarerunningagain

I just texted my friend who is an independent nail tech, it doesn't actually state a lower age but said under 16's must be accompanied by a parent or guardian.

Salons need their own policies in place and prominently displayed otherwise unscrupulous customers can ask unreasonable things like this and use threats to make them do it. My local jeweller actually had someone threaten to sue them for refusing to pierce a baby's ears - the family accused the jeweller of racism.

Legally it's sometimes ok even if most of us are outraged. Watch those American pageant shows and you will see plenty of toddlers with fake nails and false eyelashes (dd like the programme)

Brefugee · 27/07/2022 17:05

Vietnamese not Chinese. All the ones people think are Chinese or Korean - they’re Vietnamese. Let’s have some cultural sensitivity please!

aside of the tone-deafness of joking about this, the concept of trafficking Vietnamese people to the global north and using them as indentured servants (if not actual slaves) is very well known. I'm not sure if authorities turn a blind eye, but if you had reported this, OP, while it was going on - maybe they would have closed this one down.
now whether the workers would have been treated as victims of trafficking or illegal immigrants is another question.

Somethingneedstochange · 27/07/2022 17:06

How stupid children that young put they're fingers in they're mouth. What if she swallows one of the nails. There's fumes from the glue as well she shouldn't be breathing in.

urgen · 27/07/2022 17:08

What if they dont have insurance? There seem to be a large amount of Vietamese nail bars some of whom just take cash. In our last house there were three in the high street. I wasnt comfortable using them. They seemed to often have children in the back and men doing nails which is unusual. I also didnt like the products they used either. Those nail drillers and I am not sure their polish was 100% what they said it was. There seem to be much less where I am now.

If they really are illegal why on earth arent they picked up by the authorities?

Pavlovascat · 27/07/2022 17:09

Fucking hell.

Glitterspy · 27/07/2022 17:10

Ohthatsexciting · 27/07/2022 16:56

Thought I remembered your name from thread you started. I won’t comment because this sounds is a drop in the ocean as to the crap you’re dealing with in your personal life

Thanks for the support, friend 🤨

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Amelia891 · 27/07/2022 17:11

Please please report them!! This is so bad!

Pipsquiggle · 27/07/2022 17:16

Just awful. The salon should have just refused. However, I bet this was the first time they were asked to shellac a 2 year old and they were shocked and flummoxed by angry, gobby, chavvy mum.

Get them to out a sign up saying 'No children for shellac'

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 27/07/2022 17:16

Think how many times a young child puts their fingers to their eyes too , nail polishes are a high allergenic product and often people with eye irritations only realise the connection after going through all the potential irritants .

Unless you have a photo or you can get the other customer to state the same , you have no proof .
The nail tech can just say "Didn't happen" or "I just used some nail oil and rubbed it in and the light was off"

Actually , could this have been the case ?

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 27/07/2022 17:16

urgen · 27/07/2022 17:08

What if they dont have insurance? There seem to be a large amount of Vietamese nail bars some of whom just take cash. In our last house there were three in the high street. I wasnt comfortable using them. They seemed to often have children in the back and men doing nails which is unusual. I also didnt like the products they used either. Those nail drillers and I am not sure their polish was 100% what they said it was. There seem to be much less where I am now.

If they really are illegal why on earth arent they picked up by the authorities?

I've never seen children in nail salons (maybe once or twice) but have been to Vietnamese/Chinese nail salons where men do nails - quite a few times.

I now don't go to them because when I have been recently the manicures/pedicures have been rubbish and I prefer to pay more for a better service.

I think they must be legal in some ways though. I spoke to the last Vietnamese manicurist who told me she had a husband and young son and had bought a house in Kent. Her English was quite good too.