Port of Dover Critical Incident

[AndreaC74]

Why are we blaming the french? they didn't vote for Brexit and aren't responsible for increasing/paying for extra capacity at the French border posts on UK soil.

Stamping passports is what happens to 3rd country nationals & that adds time, a lot of it, when dealing with 100s of '000s of passengers, plus having recently been to France, i ve seen UK people arguing with French officials because they don't want their passports stamped!

The UK seems incapable of organising anything at the moment, the numbers travelling across the channel is entirely predictable and delays we are now seeing were talked about pre 2016, i remember seeing the graphs on how long the queues would be for just a few seconds of delay for each passenger.... all Project Fear.

Someone needs to remind Doug about this! He's blaming everyone but himself!

@Sometimeswinning of course there are teething problems. But it is up to the country which caused those problems (by leaving the EU) to fix those. Anything else is British exceptionalism. But that's what we've come to expect from Leavers.

Brexit is so far from done it makes me weep. There will be repercussions for years to come. Also Johnson and his merry band are trying to tear up the deal that they told us was so great and that ensured their election success. If the deal is being torn up, how can Brexit be done?

Unlikely. There's no hard border in Ireland, there wouldn't be any need for one with Scotland. It wouldn't be feasible and theres's precedent for a CTA

I voted for Brexit and still really glad I did. For all the remainers who blame this and everything else on Brexit, I really hope most of them are stuck in these ques. Quite simply because you chose to ignore a democratic vote and not support making it work out.

So to every remainer I hope you suffer and continue too, it make me soo happy in my part in the vote.Suck it up buttercup.

Respect the refurendum and support your country, those who chose not to deserve all they get and it makes me happy!

I wonder how much of this is 'sunk cost' - so much has been invested emotionally by people into Brexit that they just want to carry on despite all the issues that are coming up...

I guess it's too much for people to even admit to issues, let alone saying they think it's not good for the UK

That's because of the Northern Ireland protocol and the Good Friday Agreement.
And we all know how that's all going at the moment with checks on goods and the issues caused.

@Swizandswap and this is the level of delusion we are dealing with.

Brexiteers caused the queues, brexiteers are stuck in the queues, and there is nothing at all remain voters can do to "make it work out". This is exactly what you voted for: you voted for these queues.

And you can't have even spell queue, so why the fuck should anyone listen to your inane ramblings.

pointythings
Oh Clav that's hitting a new low even for you. Commenting on someone's clothes

I was comparing Tracy Brabin to Nadine Dorries - that seemed a fair comparison to me. I could have mentioned the two shadow culture secretaries preceding Tracy Brabin - I will now:

Revealed: Labour ignored warning on 'sex pest' MP Kelvin Hopkins

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-labour-ignored-warning-on-sex-pest-mp-a3675876.html

Tom Watson criticised over role in bungled VIP abuse investigation

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/04/tom-watson-criticised-over-role-in-bungled-vip-abuse-investigation

Glass houses, stones

20 May 2022

[Mike HIll] a former Labour MP for Hartlepool has been ordered to pay £434,435 in damages to a former parliamentary worker who he sexually assaulted, harassed and victimised.

Shadow Minister Kate Hollern resigned from her post last May after the employment tribunal heard she had tried to "isolate" Ms A from support when she spoke to others about Hill's actions.

Farore Law, who represented Ms A, said: “Our client is very pleased by the decision, and thanks the Tribunal for the significant award that has been made in her favour.

"Her ability to enforce this has become difficult because the insurance policy provided by the House of Commons (to cover legal fees and damages) has been depleted by the legal fees of Mr Hill.

"We will now look to the House of Commons and the Labour Party for their response to this injustice and their proposed resolution.”

www.farorelaw.co.uk/insights/itv-news-article-mentions-farore-law-in-relation-to-ms-a-vs-mike-hill

Feb 2022
The former Labour peer Nazir Ahmed has been jailed for five years and six months after being convicted of sexual offences against two children in the 1970s.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/04/peer-nazir-ahmed-jailed-for-sexual-offences-against-children

Not really. The CTA predates all of that by a long way. A hard border isn't even possible, and wouldn't be in Scotland either.

And yes, its going badly, as we all knew it would.

[Mike Hill]

Can't we move on from "remainers" now? Contrary to your assumptions, I think the vast majority of people who voted to remain accepted years ago that the vote wasn't going to be overturned and sat back and hoped to God that their direst predictions wouldn't come true. Unfortunately they have.

How exactly do you contend that this is the fault of people who didn't support Brexit anyway? Are they responsible for the failure of the highly pro-Brexit government to invest in adequate customs facilities? If so, how?

And does it make you happy that lots of Brexit supporters are stuck in those queues?

Seriously @Clavinova

This thread is about Dover and Brexit. Have you got anything useful to contribute about that? You are wasting your time posting all these irrelevant links.

Maybe you are stuck in a queue and have time to waste?

swiz - you sound like a spiteful 6-year-old and you demonstrate no understanding of what democracy is.

So, @Clavinova, what are your views on Johnson's behaviour with regard to Pincher? Any chance of answering that question without attempting to divert it to anyone or anything else?

@Quia why should I care of some brexiters are stuck in the ques? Everyone in this country needs to take accountability for there own actions and that includes planning your journeys accordingly. That's the problem now days it's all ways some one else's fault.

Mostly leftwing remainers who seem to think everything in life is some one else's fault. This country needs a hard lesson in self accountability, if you have an issue look at your own actions first not expect the government to baby site everything you do and pay you to live. If you work hard and make your own informed desitions and take responsibility for you own actions life is far more easier. Some on here should try it 😁.

I have an opinion so if you don't like it move on, I know most remainers and lefty's can't handle that!

Of course it's brexit. Vote to lose freedom of movement and goods, to want hard borders, and this is what you get.

Back in 2020 the UK government refused a request from the Port of Dover for £33.5m to double the capacity for French passport staff. This was in anticipation of the need under Brexit for tighter border checks. Screenshot from the FT

I have a feeling its more likely that I will contribute something useful to this thread than @Clavinova and the chances of my contributing anything useful are almost exactly 0%.

You are so right. I do not know why those who booked a ferry for 10.30am on Saturday did not set off at least 24 hours ahead of that. Why can't they plan for these things?

Mostly leftwing remainers who seem to think everything in life is some one else's fault.

You are so right on this as well @Swizandswap.
I voted for Brexit because it was quite clear that the reason I do not have a handsome multi-billionaire husband was because the EU allowed so many foreign migrants in to take our jobs and live on benefits.

Bloody hell this post is hilarious, like someone ate the Daily Mail and shat it out

Oh the irony of spunking on about responsibility and accountability while blaming the results of Brexit on those who didn't vote for it!!

@Swizandswap well that wasn't an illiterate rant at all... 'desitions'? Can't blame autocorrect for that one.

There have always been problems between the Dover and Calais Ports. In 2015 the British economy lost £250 million a day for 24 days due to the French striking at Calais and the M20 having to be used as a lorry park. This has a knock on effect for the whole of Kent.

The French are renowned for going on strike, they strike more than any other country. There will always be problems all the while we rely on the Dover/Calais crossing.