Port of Dover Critical Incident

[AndreaC74]

Why are we blaming the french? they didn't vote for Brexit and aren't responsible for increasing/paying for extra capacity at the French border posts on UK soil.

Stamping passports is what happens to 3rd country nationals & that adds time, a lot of it, when dealing with 100s of '000s of passengers, plus having recently been to France, i ve seen UK people arguing with French officials because they don't want their passports stamped!

The UK seems incapable of organising anything at the moment, the numbers travelling across the channel is entirely predictable and delays we are now seeing were talked about pre 2016, i remember seeing the graphs on how long the queues would be for just a few seconds of delay for each passenger.... all Project Fear.

"jgw1 is trying to be funny. They seem to have posted on a tongues and cheek way.
they are a remainer being sarcastic?"

Yes. jgw1 is well known on a number of threads for her irony.

People will just stop going to France on holiday if they're making it so hard for Brits to get into the country. It's just spite IMO

Do that then. Go to Asia and the US instead. Good luck!

We'd really appreciate it. It would be great and would mean cheaper hols for the rest of us as the prices increase the day the UK schools break up.

In all seriousness, Brexit and the EU were about a lot more than ease of travelling on holiday. If all being in the EU meant was that it was easy to travel to France, Brexit wouldn't have won the vote.

Hurrah… the Brexit divorce bill has cost us an extra £10 billion…

Yes it was about power, Johnson saw it as a means to no 10 and Cameron saw having a vote, which he thought he would win, as a means to remove power from the ERG.

The public were pawns in this struggle but unlike the likes of BJ, Cameron or Farage, will be the ones that suffer the consequences.

Anyway, the predicted issues with travel work etc were dismissed as Project Fear.

Only 4 hour delays at Dover now.

I agree.

Personally have no argument with those who were pro-Brexit coming along saying something along the lines of:

"Yes I knew a Brexit would make entering the EU more problematic for many. I knew that Brexit would mean the UK shifting to third country status and that would bring with it known extra restrictions and checks on travellers from the UK, but it was a price I was prepared to pay"

OTOH I do have a major disagreement with those who pipe up with comments along the lines of:

"I voted for Brexit. The delays at Dover are absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, nope, they are being deliberately generated by the French/Germans/the EU out of spite"

At best those posters have been misled and are misinformed, at worse....well, it's Saturday A.M., lets not go there.

There is only so much time in each day that I can be bothered to devote to the sourcing and understanding of material for these threads.

Unfortunately, jdw1 supposed irony is upsetting quite a few posters who do not get what he/she has done?

Are you on of my fans, trying to copy my posting style?

Yes, truly until the referendum campaign started in earnest I felt sure I would vote to leave, but given the nature of those who were campaigning to leave I could not bring myself to vote the same way as them.

@RockandRollsuicide am I not succeeding in being funny?
Goodness I will try harder in future.

Gammon isn't a race.

Jgw1..

So, if you had been honest and said you felt that leavers had voted for x y and z but not to ruin their holidays then that might have been funny.

It's just that you have set a false tone by purporting to be a leaver who genuinely feels like that? And have garnered upset responses by remainers who have been genuinely aghast by the pretend response.

For those who are in on your joke ,they seem to find it amusing? Even though your tricking your own team?

I was not aware I was on a team. Who are the other members?

It was obvious to me what jgw1 was at. I found it so amusing to see the outraged responses to her truths that were delivered in such an "innocent" way.

Comprehension and good irony meters are grossly undervalued.

Well done jgw1

I hadn’t seen this before.

@liliainterfrutices - clearly the French forced the U.K. not to invest in the additional booth’s. Nothing is ever the fault of the British (aka the English) it’s always foreigners.

You are, of course, completely right. That must have been what happened. Bastards.

What is sad (and worrying) is that ppl didn’t get Jgw1’s irony yet these ppl felt they understood the outcome of their vote <shakes head>

To have agreed to fund this extra capacity would mean accepting Brexit has significant downsides for the UK.

Instead we get the port authorities building 4 extra booths last week from the 8 they previously had, then moaning the French didn't provide the staff....

Doug Bannister, chief executive of the Port of Dover, said the increased checks at the border that have come with Brexit are the blame for 'increased transaction times' that have caused huge tailbacks into the port over the last couple of days.

It comes after he claimed yesterday the port had been 'let down' by French border control staff after some passport booths were left empty on Thursday and Friday.

Mr Bannister added the port had tried to prepare by creating 'more border capacity', but that travellers should expect some delays.

I do love how its simultaneously the fault of the French and Brexit. As if the French voted for Brexit. And the British didn't have to think about contingency planning for the French being, well French and maybe not turning up for work. Its not as if the French have form for strikes now is it?

For a decision made six years ago.

This poster always say the opposite to what they mean, I generally just ignore it.

The french weren't on strike yesterday and as its a french only job role, its not possible for the UK to plan for that possibility.

Never really heard of Bannister before but he sounds a bit of an idiot.

Someone said yesterday he was a Johnson/political appointee.

However, the british media wont be telling anyone it s the fault of the UK and Brexit.

And we are all clear that the people who didn't get the joke and have responded earnestly are clearly remainers?