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I'm shocked at this picture in the news..

186 replies

AppelFrench · 18/07/2022 13:38

A Queen's guard being given water. Can you imagine wearing a wool jacket & bearskin hat in this heat? This uniform needs rethinking for extreme heat.

I'm shocked at this picture in the news..
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Moonchair1 · 19/07/2022 18:53

I saw this pic yesterday and was absolutely disgusted the queen wants to be ashamed making them do that in this heat, bet she’s was saying with legs up someone feeding grapes and fanning her cool haha JOKE !!
poor guy I feel sorry for him I would refuse point blank to do that, DH said the poor guy is leaning like he’s gunna pass out x

Moonchair1 · 19/07/2022 18:54

Sat with legs up *

SpeakingMyThoughts · 19/07/2022 19:03

I’m sure we’d pass out in this heat if we were standing for the time the guards are standing. But we’re not soldiers. This is the job they’ve chosen.
However, recruits in many parts of the country it’s be a soldier or be on benefits. These soldiers are trained with guns and not for photos. Who do we send when wars start?
Perhaps worth remembering this when we vote at election time.
Many soldiers sometimes only join up to avoid unemployment, not all, but worth remembering.
They don’t deserve to be bullied as we often read in the press. They do their jobs abroad and then some are charged for doing what they were trained to do.

Blossomtoes · 19/07/2022 19:05

And you’d be disciplined. It’s part of the job, soldiers can’t just refuse to obey orders.

fyn · 19/07/2022 19:18

@SpeakingMyThoughts absolute patronising nonsense. I don’t know any soldiers who joined up to avoid unemployment, I do know quite a few highly educated JNCO’s that joined up because they wanted to serve their country, excellent mechanics, medics who are just as qualified as paramedics and pilots. I’m not sure their only other option was signing on. I’m sure a small minority join the infantry as it’s their best option but I can’t think of a single one on our patch that I know.

wentworthinmate · 19/07/2022 19:32

restedbutexhausted · 18/07/2022 13:40

While we're at it, the Monarchy needs rethinking. But yes...makes me feel hot just looking at it. I'm sure I'd pass out!

Oh please!!! Give your head a good wobble 😡

Lovely13 · 19/07/2022 19:51

Feel sorry for the bears. Killing them for a trophy hat? Hideous. Also a warning of where we’re at with climate change and general lack of care for our planet 😳

Lem1984 · 19/07/2022 19:51

My DH today was fixing electric cars today in a boiler suit, thick gloves, special boots and a helmet in a hot car workshop. He has to wear it so he doesn't die in case he gets zapped from the direct current.

restedbutexhausted · 19/07/2022 19:52

@wentworthinmate a Royalist I'm guessing? This'll get you frothing:

The monarchy is utter trash. Can you make any valid points for the continued existence of the Monarchy? It needs abolishing. An absolutely disgusting institution. While we're at it, we need to return stolen goods to Benin and elsewhere and pay reparations.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 19/07/2022 20:08

The whole system is outdated and draconian, monarchy needs to go.

Pleezgivemestrength · 19/07/2022 20:16

Blimey you lot.take a chill pill. , the bearskins are supplied from the Canadian authorities each year after the licensed cull to manage bear numbers. The uniform is worn by the queens guards as their dress uniform, these guards also protect the freedom that you currently are using to berate our monarchy and military.
Shame on all of you.
Be careful what you wish for. If you want us to get rid of royal family. Who btw is a bargain at a couple of pounds per person to maintain. The state of our politicians and, what do you want. No-one is going to come here to see president johnson or starmer. People love our history.... they love the hundreds of years of pomp and ceremony.....maybe something we should try.... every country has a dark history. And yet we want to tippex it out. Pretend it doesn't exist. As I say. Shame on you

Blossomtoes · 19/07/2022 20:25

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 19/07/2022 20:08

The whole system is outdated and draconian, monarchy needs to go.

I don’t think you understand what draconian means. Or that the sentries are members of the British Army and would still be there regardless of whether we had a monarchy or were a republic.

StoneofDestiny · 19/07/2022 20:30

If you want us to get rid of royal family. Who btw is a bargain at a couple of pounds per person to maintain

Cant believe anyone actually believes that. Shame on you for being so gullible!.

cakeorwine · 19/07/2022 20:30

I wonder if there is no culture of complaining.

Would they go back in and tell their CO that it was really hot under there and he almost fainted?

Or do they just have to take it?

Because that's what you do in the Army...

I know that there have been heatstroke deaths during training in other regiments.

Still, looks good and of course, we have tradition.

Being in a war zone is different. It does matter if you can't do your job in the heat as you have a vital job to do.

In a heatwave - the job can still get done but some accommodation could be made as it's not a matter of life or death that they wear such a uniform in the heat.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 19/07/2022 21:03

Blossomtoes · 19/07/2022 20:25

I don’t think you understand what draconian means. Or that the sentries are members of the British Army and would still be there regardless of whether we had a monarchy or were a republic.

I know what it means, thanks

dudsville · 19/07/2022 21:05

GreenManalishi · 18/07/2022 13:44

This is what you can get people to do when you've got all the money.

Yup

Pleezgivemestrength · 19/07/2022 21:15

Hmmm. Just think president Putin, or would you prefer Macron. Both disasters. You want to sweep our history under the carpet, because of jealousy of anyone in this country who has more money than you. That's not being gullible, that's realising what an asset the royal family is to this country. For those young men, guarding our Queen in traditions that go back centuries is a great honour.

Chocolatehamper · 19/07/2022 21:28

ihatethefuckingmuffin · 18/07/2022 14:04

I hit this moment a long time ago when learning more about the potato famine in Ireland. People in dire poverty and the then Queen pops over, not to help them, but to lift their spirits.

There was never a ‘famine’ - the rich, prosperous land was taken from Irish landowners and given to the British landowners or rich Irish families loyal to the crown. The Irish were left to feed their families on a meagre few square feet of land and when the crop failed, as it was the mainstay and normally most productive crop to feed many, they starved. The rich landowners still expected their rents for land that couldn’t sustain people.

Unfortunately, the truth behind the ‘Irish problem’ is not taught in English schools so the vast majority see the issue in Northern Ireland etc as terrorists but don’t know the hundreds of years of hurt and history behind it.

As they say, ignorance is bliss!

McClaire · 19/07/2022 23:34

Do you never have leather?

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 19/07/2022 23:38

Yanbu. Those hats are made from actual dead bear as well. Illegal for anyone else to import but a special exemption allows it for this purpose. Horrible.

Outsideswimbabe · 19/07/2022 23:49

You are right. Also Armed Forces train to be able to withstand all kinds of unpleasant discomforts to protect this country.

Mothership4two · 20/07/2022 01:40

If they have to continue wearing the full get up, then they should only be out there for minutes to prevent heat-stroke. Like the full costumed staff at Disneyland and Disneyworld US.

Darlingx · 20/07/2022 04:43

Something that surprised me The Prince of Wales cannot understand Welsh. Wouldn’t it be more fitting if he had bothered. I was listening to a programme on Welsh Independence he couldn’t understand what the protesters were uttering as he couldn’t understand Welsh.
Personally the Guards are in a status position I knew someone who rode exercised their horses in the early hours each day and its quite an Elite fixture they have balls as in society dances and mingle with a certain strata so that hat represents as bizarre as it looks rather like Ermine Cloaks and Crowns and bending the knee a certain standing .
Rather like waving from carriages I feel all the fairytale princesses ended up miserable with their Princes anyway yet they still fell for that Disney story. It’s all a golden cage rather like all the illusions of glamour if you can be bothered with all the pomp.
Diana walking through an area of landmines that must have been a thorn and I had never realised we are not a nation of shopkeepers we are Arms dealers . It’s our largest export . Not finance Arms that’s why this little Island has it’s power which is currently waning .
So as Arms dealers we need all the illusions of heraldic romance

sashh · 20/07/2022 06:13

MrsLargeEmbodied · 18/07/2022 14:10

i doubt it is bear skin nowadays

It is. They have tried synthetic fur and it doesn't work for some reason.

I hope he has slowly melting ice under the hat.

I think a faux fur hat would be much hotter.

Givemethereins · 20/07/2022 06:30

Absolutely!

The monarchy is supposed to be represent our values and our morales. They are supposed to represent civil service and holding their country before themselves.

Yet the Queen herself has been found to be hoarding and hiding huge wealth, goong back generations!
Demanding that her and all her estates are left out of important laws and regulations meant to bring buildings upto energy standards and hundreds of other laws!?

Wtf. And now most recently, getting away with wildlife killings of endangered animals fully assuming they have a right to live outside the law.

They have zero morales, zero duty to country and the Queen herself is lawless and rebranding it all as somehow acceptable for them. It's all been a bunch of lies.

They're has to be consequences for this family for these outrages 😠
And preferably in the Queen's lifetime.