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HMO had two people who constantly drink

165 replies

Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 17:09

I live in a not so great area of town but the streets around me are generally ok.

The house two doors down (about 20 metres away) is a HMO (house of multiple occupants, single rooms let to adults).

it used to be young professionals etc, but recently it’s had two people who are 30/40s and just spend their days drinking at the front of the house.

if I leave the house they are looking in my direction. It’s a six bedroom house - no one decent will want to live with them, so it’s going to become a doss house full of other people like them. They have a back garden. The street is full of children and in my opinion I don’t want them to see this.

the two people sit on the wall adjoining the other house, I would hate to live next to them.

AIBU for thinking that it’s acceptable behaviour and should I call the property manager?

OP posts:
GCHeretic · 17/07/2022 22:02

Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 19:50

It’s not a deteriorating area. It’s an area where rents are lower than others. Like comparing Notting Hill to Brixton…..

and it’s heaps more socially acceptable to drink in your back garden, especially when you have your top of and drinking all day.

Let’s be honest here OP, it’s not like Notting Hill.

Eeksteek · 17/07/2022 22:17

OP, I own an HMO property. If you phoned me and complained I would laugh at you. Not to your face, because I try to be polite, but definitely later. There is literally nothing I could (or should) do. I certainly wouldn’t evict them or threaten to evict them because you don’t like it. It’s their home.

I don’t know what sort of ‘class’ of people live in it (it’s none of my business) or if, or when they drink in the garden, but they have a contractual right to enjoy the garden as part of the rental. I don’t know where you picked up the idea that you are allowed to control who looks at you and their background, but I’m here to tell you that neither of us have the power to do anything about it.

I’m sorry you feel that these people are not good enough to live near you, and that they may attract more people who are not good enough to live near you. But I’m afraid you are powerless to prevent it unless they are actually breaking the law. Astonishingly, being visibly poor and common near where posh people live is not actually against the law. Yet, anyway. You could write to Priti Patel and propose it. It seems like her sort of thing.

Mothapples · 17/07/2022 22:25

"Astonishingly, being visibly poor and common near where posh people live is not actually against the law."
So you equate being visibly poor with drinking on a wall all day? That's pretty offensive to most poor people who don't live like that.

gamerchick · 17/07/2022 22:44

Goingforarun · 17/07/2022 21:43

Everyone giving you a hard time are the same who would complain if it happened to them. What can you do? Find out who the landlord is and see if tenancy agreements include use of front garden.

You think people shouldn't have the use of their front garden?

Tsort · 17/07/2022 22:57

Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 19:50

It’s not a deteriorating area. It’s an area where rents are lower than others. Like comparing Notting Hill to Brixton…..

and it’s heaps more socially acceptable to drink in your back garden, especially when you have your top of and drinking all day.

Of the 32 London boroughs, they are both in the top third for the most expensive, so eye watering. Not sure what point you’re trying to make here.

Unless we’re pretending it’s 2000 and Brixton is cheap and insalubrious? Like Notting Hill in the 50’s?

RiojaRose · 17/07/2022 23:12

If they’re not being rowdy or offensive I really don’t see what the problem is.

RockandRollsuicide · 17/07/2022 23:12

Op I understand your concerns.

We have had many anti social issues over the years with all sorts of problems from HMOs.

At the moment whilst you may feel concerned I don't think you can do anything.

However if the behaviour becomes anti social or you feel threatened,I think the owner would be the first port of call?

Hmo owners are quite strictly regulated and they do have a responsibility to their neighbours.
We have had different levels of drunkenness here (including my own 🤣🫣) , from bare chested,bare feet fist fights and glassing, to stabbings.
We also have a few drinkers who seem peaceful and sit around.
So whilst I understand it makes you feel uncomfortable do take comfort that if they have been peaceful so far it may stay that way...

iklboo · 17/07/2022 23:25

Find out who the landlord is and see if tenancy agreements include use of front garden

Of course not! They should be in the cellar or under the stairs, no visible to the public. Heaven forfend!

BEAM123 · 18/07/2022 05:19

KVick · 17/07/2022 18:44

Maybe I've misunderstood something here, but it seems like everyone is purposely missing the OP’s point.

She sounds justifiably concerned about the deterioration of her neighborhood as evidenced by the current tenancy in the building/house across from her which used to house more business types – or, you know, people who “work” and now is becoming a flop house for addicts.

And I’m sorry, but if you’re drinking from sun up to sun down 7 days a week, you’re a full-blown committed addict. So though while she may have compassion for these people’s mental illness, it still doesn’t mean she excited about living across from them, and their lifestyle (I think rightfully) creeps her out. It would essential be the same as if the house across the street became a crack house.
Yes, booze is legal. It’s still a drug, however, and it’s still disturbing to witness folks anesthetizing themselves daily in what used to be a modest but decent neighborhood.

So I understand her concern. Especially since their constant presence outside means more normal people looking to rent there will surely think twice once the come to look at the place and have to step over drunks on the front porch.
This is not the same as someone sitting out and sipping a Chardonnay in the evening.

And I don’t think not liking their addict lifestyle make you a snob.
Why is everyone missing the point?

I absolutely agree and I would hate it but at the end of the day, it is low level antisocial behaviour based on what is considered decent behaviour. (And judging by some of the responses on here, a large swathe of the population would see no issue with this). But it is highly unlikely there is any rule they have broken so there isn't much OP can do.

BEAM123 · 18/07/2022 05:28

Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 21:24

ok shall I be more explicit?

They don’t work. They drink all day. They are in their 40s and renting a room in a home.… could their life be any less stable?

Ok, but this has only gone on since Thursday... so 3 days? I thought it had gone on for months. Just ignore it, it's probably just the heatwave, maybe it's really hot in their house. Drinking alcohol isn't really sensible in a heatwave though. Maybe they are on holiday from work?
If it's still happening in a few weeks or months that's the time to be more worried.

Goingforarun · 18/07/2022 20:41

Actually I’ve got an hmo next to me and the front garden is only for the use of 2 tenants who have cars parked there. My original point is valid.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 18/07/2022 21:00

Hang on this has only been happening for 3 days one of which was a Saturday? How do you know they haven't just got a few days off work?

XenoBitch · 18/07/2022 21:04

If they were sitting in the front garden drinking tea, would you still be clutching at your pearls?

This thread just stinks of "dirty unemployed drinking away my taxes and looking at me".

ofHardey · 19/07/2022 08:05

Honestly only mn where people will deliberately misunderstand the op!

Op I totally get you. I hate topless men anyway in the summer, I just feel like they think they own more public space than anyone else and it's always the fat pasty ones who decide to go topless , not the hunky tanned ones 😂 my dd aged 4 saw a topless man on the street as we drove past yesterday and said 'look at that man mummy, he's so naughty because he won't wear his clothes' I quite agreed 🤣

I would HATE it if I had topless neighbours sitting on the wall gawping and drinking. It is passive aggressive.

woodhill · 19/07/2022 10:17

Yes topless is grim and not classy unless it's on the beach or in a private space.

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