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Odrama456 · 2022-07-17T16:09:14+00:00

I live in a not so great area of town but the streets around me are generally ok. The house two doors down (about 20 metres away) is a HMO (house of multiple occupants, single rooms let to adults). it used to be young professionals etc, but recently it’s had two people who are 30/40s and just spend their days drinking at the front of the house. if I leave the house they are looking in my direction. It’s a six bedroom house - no one decent will want to live with them, so it’s going to become a doss house full of other people like them. They have a back garden. The street is full of children and in my opinion I don’t want them to see this. the two people sit on the wall adjoining the other house, I would hate to live next to them. AIBU for thinking that it’s acceptable behaviour and should I call the property manager?

GCHeretic · 17/07/2022 19:43

barbrahunter · 17/07/2022 18:08

I wouldn't like to have neighbours like that either.

Well no, the local bishop may be nicer, but there’s a whole lot of distance between imperfect and there being grounds for complaint to the residents or the authorities.

Mangolist · 17/07/2022 19:43

Struggling to see where the op has mentioned "having compassion" for them as a pp suggested

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Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 19:45

ThinWomansBrain · 17/07/2022 19:42

Since Thursday? OP is concerned that they look at her - maybe they're wondering why she appears to be stalking them?

Leaving my house to get in my car is “stalking them”?

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beautyisthefaceisee · 17/07/2022 19:46

maddiemookins16mum · 17/07/2022 18:22

People are deliberately being obtuse. I lived in a street with a house like this, unkempt, piles of cans in the garden, two blokes who’d sit out front smoking joints and beer all hours of the day. It was intimidating when I walked past, they leered and called me names. I used to walk the long way to avoid them. But Op, you really cannot do or say anything.

But OP hasnt said they do any of these things

ManateeFair · 17/07/2022 19:47

Yolojo · 17/07/2022 19:03

I mean, off the top of my head I can think of multiple instances of indecent exposure from drunk men for a start, both intentional flashing and unintentional due to pissing in the street. Delightful.

You can’t ban someone from doing something legal on the grounds that they might, in theory, potentially commit some sort of criminal offence as a result. It would be like stopping you from owning a car because there have been incidents where drivers have run over pedestrians.

AbreathofFrenchair · 17/07/2022 19:48

KVick · 17/07/2022 18:44

Maybe I've misunderstood something here, but it seems like everyone is purposely missing the OP’s point.

She sounds justifiably concerned about the deterioration of her neighborhood as evidenced by the current tenancy in the building/house across from her which used to house more business types – or, you know, people who “work” and now is becoming a flop house for addicts.

And I’m sorry, but if you’re drinking from sun up to sun down 7 days a week, you’re a full-blown committed addict. So though while she may have compassion for these people’s mental illness, it still doesn’t mean she excited about living across from them, and their lifestyle (I think rightfully) creeps her out. It would essential be the same as if the house across the street became a crack house.
Yes, booze is legal. It’s still a drug, however, and it’s still disturbing to witness folks anesthetizing themselves daily in what used to be a modest but decent neighborhood.

So I understand her concern. Especially since their constant presence outside means more normal people looking to rent there will surely think twice once the come to look at the place and have to step over drunks on the front porch.
This is not the same as someone sitting out and sipping a Chardonnay in the evening.

And I don’t think not liking their addict lifestyle make you a snob.
Why is everyone missing the point?

You say its deteriorating the area, what difference does it make if they drink out the front or the back? They still live in the house? Or is better so she can pretend they dont exist, even thought the same problem is happening?

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Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 19:48

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 17/07/2022 18:34

Look op you yourself said you live in not a great area so you can’t be snobby about it as you are part of it.

I really am not sure they are approaching kids because I think you’d have written that in your op. They are also clearly not causing trouble You just don’t like them sitting drinjing out the front. You are clearly looking at them which is why they are looking back

people are allowed to drink in their front gardens, Inc residents of hmos. I understand you don’t like it and don’t want to see it but really it’s tough. You don’t get to dictate this. I get fully it’s not the classiest of things, a couple of shirtless blokes sitting drinking beer in their front garden in the sun, but it could be worse. They aren’t actually doing anything wrong

if you really dislike it then you need to move.

I’m part of it?

My part of the neighbourhood that keeps my front house clean and tidy, doesn’t cause noise pollution, brings my bins in the same day they are collected etc.

I just don’t have a lot of money, which is why I can afford to live where I live.

As house prices are low, than it will attract investors who will turn properties into HMOs and the residents could be those who have substance issues.

so no I’m not the problem. Neither are the other neighbours who equally are great neighbours.

just because rent and property price is low…. Doesn’t mean people aren’t considerate people

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Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 19:50

AbreathofFrenchair · 17/07/2022 19:48

You say its deteriorating the area, what difference does it make if they drink out the front or the back? They still live in the house? Or is better so she can pretend they dont exist, even thought the same problem is happening?

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It’s not a deteriorating area. It’s an area where rents are lower than others. Like comparing Notting Hill to Brixton…..

and it’s heaps more socially acceptable to drink in your back garden, especially when you have your top of and drinking all day.

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Mothapples · 17/07/2022 19:55

I don't believe for a second that the people who claim they're totally cool with this really are, and if they are then they're exceptionally naive. Alcoholic neighbours, particularly multiple male alcoholic neighbours who sit out the front all day, invariably cause problems of one kind or another.

GCHeretic · 17/07/2022 19:55

Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 19:48

I’m part of it?

My part of the neighbourhood that keeps my front house clean and tidy, doesn’t cause noise pollution, brings my bins in the same day they are collected etc.

I just don’t have a lot of money, which is why I can afford to live where I live.

As house prices are low, than it will attract investors who will turn properties into HMOs and the residents could be those who have substance issues.

so no I’m not the problem. Neither are the other neighbours who equally are great neighbours.

just because rent and property price is low…. Doesn’t mean people aren’t considerate people

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There is literally nothing inconsiderate about someone sitting in their garden having a drink.

You say that they are looking at you, which is normal, but is there maybe something about your appearance that makes you self-conscious, such as obesity, or a brass nose?

If so have you considered wearing a motorcycle helmet, or paper bag, so as not to draw attention to yourself? There was a really large lady that used to live across the street from us who appeared to have some sort of tic and drove a Hyundai. I explained to her that we were a respectable neighbourhood, where the women had personal trainers and drive Range Rovers, and suggested that she use her back door, or at the very least park her car somewhere else, and I’m happy to say that after only a few months of calling by to remind her that she was out of place that she had some kind of mental health crisis and left.

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Londonderry34 · 17/07/2022 20:08

A lot of people who drink have mental health issues and deserve sympathy. I had a very dear friend with chronic mental health issues who did not get the support she needed. Social services were quick to deal with addiction not mental health which was hopeless because mental health was the pressing issue. Please don't be judgmental. A lot of people are in turmoil and need our love and support. I am not saying they have an addiction issue, just saying be sympathetic .

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Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 20:15

Londonderry34 · 17/07/2022 20:08

A lot of people who drink have mental health issues and deserve sympathy. I had a very dear friend with chronic mental health issues who did not get the support she needed. Social services were quick to deal with addiction not mental health which was hopeless because mental health was the pressing issue. Please don't be judgmental. A lot of people are in turmoil and need our love and support. I am not saying they have an addiction issue, just saying be sympathetic .

Errrrr who’s being judgemental, apart from you?

I don’t give two flying Fs if they have mental health issues…. But if they do and it shows in them drinking outside everyday, we then it does become my issue. what about my mental health? Just because I don’t drink doesn’t mean I don’t have mental health issues.

there is no excuse for being a piss head at the front of your house.

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Comedycook · 17/07/2022 20:25

Londonderry34 · 17/07/2022 20:08

A lot of people who drink have mental health issues and deserve sympathy. I had a very dear friend with chronic mental health issues who did not get the support she needed. Social services were quick to deal with addiction not mental health which was hopeless because mental health was the pressing issue. Please don't be judgmental. A lot of people are in turmoil and need our love and support. I am not saying they have an addiction issue, just saying be sympathetic .

My own dad died of alcoholism.... albeit in a middle class setting rather than a street drinker kind of way. Anyway, I still agree with the op. You can have sympathy whilst also not wish to be surrounded by these problems where you live.

youboozeyoulose · 17/07/2022 20:29

Fuck me at the lack of critical thinking skills from people sticking up for the OP on this thread. All sorts of assumptions. People having beers in the sun shocker! In their own garden! Who says they are alcoholics? Maybe the OP is an alcoholic given that she stated they approached children but cannot access any further details of this from her memory.

GCHeretic · 17/07/2022 20:35

Odrama456 · 17/07/2022 20:15

Errrrr who’s being judgemental, apart from you?

I don’t give two flying Fs if they have mental health issues…. But if they do and it shows in them drinking outside everyday, we then it does become my issue. what about my mental health? Just because I don’t drink doesn’t mean I don’t have mental health issues.

there is no excuse for being a piss head at the front of your house.

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They don’t need an excuse, it isn’t illegal, nor is it something that anyone in authority will do anything about.

You are avoiding the issue of what it is that is making them look at you. Do you maybe have one leg shorter than the other, or an unusual hat?

Thepeopleversuswork · 17/07/2022 20:40

OP you can't shield children for life from seeing alcoholism or drug abuse or lower class people or whatever it is you're concerned about. They will no doubt see far worse than this.

In the scheme of things a couple of people getting harmlessly pissed on their front garden in a heatwave is pretty benign. If this is going to be the worst antisocial behaviour these children witness they will have got off lightly.

wellhelloitsme · 17/07/2022 20:46

You said they've been "approaching children" OP. Without more context on that element this could be one of a million different scenarios.

So they're actively approaching children while pissed? Trying to talk to them? Following them?

If you can explain what you mean then people can make suggestions based on reality, but you've been very vague when asked about that aspect.

Eyesopenwideawake · 17/07/2022 20:48

Hello Hyacinth!

Areil · 17/07/2022 20:57

You have little to worry about op

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 17/07/2022 20:58

there is no excuse for being a piss head at the front of your house

im sorry about your mental health problems, and I’m sorry the sight of these men causes you issues. The truth is they don’t need an excuse. They are fully able to do this. The fact you personally don’t like it and it causes you mental health issues I’m afraid doesn’t change this. People are allowed to drink beer in their front garden, you will need to accept this, I’m sorry.

woodhill · 17/07/2022 20:59

Remember Onslo and Daisy😀

WendellGeez · 17/07/2022 21:00

My sister has a bunch like that opposite her house. It's quite handy as they inadvertently keep an eye on her place. There have been neighbourhood burglaries etc but not at her house.

GCHeretic · 17/07/2022 21:18

OP, given your adventures / failures in online dating it sounds like these are about as good as it’ll get for you romantically, and it’s time for you to buy a six pack and join them.