HMO had two people who constantly drink

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I live in a not so great area of town but the streets around me are generally ok.

The house two doors down (about 20 metres away) is a HMO (house of multiple occupants, single rooms let to adults).

it used to be young professionals etc, but recently it’s had two people who are 30/40s and just spend their days drinking at the front of the house.

if I leave the house they are looking in my direction. It’s a six bedroom house - no one decent will want to live with them, so it’s going to become a doss house full of other people like them. They have a back garden. The street is full of children and in my opinion I don’t want them to see this.

the two people sit on the wall adjoining the other house, I would hate to live next to them.

AIBU for thinking that it’s acceptable behaviour and should I call the property manager?

And yet every city centre in the UK will be full of street side tables of people drinking today…

Look op you yourself said you live in not a great area so you can’t be snobby about it as you are part of it.

I really am not sure they are approaching kids because I think you’d have written that in your op. They are also clearly not causing trouble You just don’t like them sitting drinjing out the front. You are clearly looking at them which is why they are looking back

people are allowed to drink in their front gardens, Inc residents of hmos. I understand you don’t like it and don’t want to see it but really it’s tough. You don’t get to dictate this. I get fully it’s not the classiest of things, a couple of shirtless blokes sitting drinking beer in their front garden in the sun, but it could be worse. They aren’t actually doing anything wrong

if you really dislike it then you need to move.

And yet every city centre in the UK will be full of street side tables of people drinking today…
That's my idea of a nightmare too if it means men in groups who've been drinking all day. A reason why I don't go into town drinking on a bank holiday as it turns into carnage.

That is a laughable comment ''Low class areas''..
There are loads of areas where houses sell for millions that are divided up into flats, there is one not too far from us where the tenants sit on the garden walls drinking in fine weather..
Just ignore them it's not like they are making trouble.

Large houses are often broken down into flats or bedsits, the one locally has so say been rented out for the past 50 years.

What trouble have they actually caused? It doesn't actually sound like they have caused any.

Maybe I've misunderstood something here, but it seems like everyone is purposely missing the OP’s point.

She sounds justifiably concerned about the deterioration of her neighborhood as evidenced by the current tenancy in the building/house across from her which used to house more business types – or, you know, people who “work” and now is becoming a flop house for addicts.

And I’m sorry, but if you’re drinking from sun up to sun down 7 days a week, you’re a full-blown committed addict. So though while she may have compassion for these people’s mental illness, it still doesn’t mean she excited about living across from them, and their lifestyle (I think rightfully) creeps her out. It would essential be the same as if the house across the street became a crack house.
Yes, booze is legal. It’s still a drug, however, and it’s still disturbing to witness folks anesthetizing themselves daily in what used to be a modest but decent neighborhood.

So I understand her concern. Especially since their constant presence outside means more normal people looking to rent there will surely think twice once the come to look at the place and have to step over drunks on the front porch.
This is not the same as someone sitting out and sipping a Chardonnay in the evening.

And I don’t think not liking their addict lifestyle make you a snob.
Why is everyone missing the point?

I sort of know what you mean, OP. Pre-covid we were looking to buy a house in what was said to be an up and coming area of London, we had a wander round, clocking the market, the bars and good looking places to eat.
We had a bite to eat but as we came out to a square outside we had to avoid a group of big blokes - shirtless, clearly very drunk, swearing and staggering around.
They took up most of the seating in the small precinct, other people moved off sharpish and the atmosphere felt quite tense and threatening.
We decided that if it was like that on a weekday lunchtime we didn't want to see it on a weekend or evening. There was a house we were quite interested in just down the road but even the remote possibility of neighbours like that meant it was a big no-no.

YANBU we had this where we used to live. It was just a couple drinking to start with. That quickly became all the local drunks then it moved into screaming, shouting, fighting, vomiting on peoples cars and in their gardens, etc then one night one of them smashed up the room and went around the street with an axe. It was pretty awful.
We complained repeatedly to the landlord and also to social services as one was a vulnerable young adult. Eventually he was moved and the others were evicted.

People are being deliberately obtuse. Sorry but no one wants to live near a doss house where people with alcohol problems sit outside all day drinking. We’ve loads of threads telling women to trust their gut instincts with men who they feel uneasy around but this seems to evaporate when all the reverse class snobs come out.

Exactly

Why is everyone missing the point?

No points are being missed. People are projecting. These blokes assuming the thread is genuine, haven't done anything wrong.

So what trouble are they causing?

I'm not really sure looking at you is causing trouble?

I look at people that walk past me if I'm in my front garden?

Op I have an alcoholic who lives opposite who often sits out the front , just metres from our front door ( there is no road separating our houses just a footpath and each of us have a miniscule front lawn) , drinking all day. She's jovial and pleasant on the whole and no problem. It wouldn't cross my mind that it negatively affects my kids. Your post is weird.

They are probably looking at you wondering why you are looking at them. They are not hurting anyone. Mind your own business, stop judging and get on with your own life.

It sounds horrible, OP, and the responses on this thread tell us that there are a lot of people who really fail to grasp the concept that some stuff is unpleasant and anti-social, possibly because they do it themselves, or because they misguidedly think there is something inherently wrong in anyone wanting other people to act with consideration towards others. It’s not snobbish, it’s just wanting to live somewhere where people’s crappy behaviour doesn’t impact on the majority.

These blokes assuming the thread is genuine, haven't done anything wrong.
They may not have done anything wrong apart from perhaps being intimidating to the OP by staring at her, but drunks - particularly drunk men in groups - are known for antisocial behaviour, and so the OP is wary. Surely this doesn't need spelling out. Have posters here really never been intimidated by groups of alcoholic or drunk men before? If so, you're very fortunate and in the minority.

I mean, off the top of my head I can think of multiple instances of indecent exposure from drunk men for a start, both intentional flashing and unintentional due to pissing in the street. Delightful.

ooooh, sounds as if you live in a very naice area
what's your opinion of the rough sleepers, if you object to residents drinking in their own front garden?

I don’t think anyone is missing the point. And I doubt they will be sitting there in the pissing rain or snow. There is also clearly exaggeration in the ops post, as she’s now on about them approaching kids.

the likely hood is the nice weather they’ve sat out the front and had a few beers. They clearly haven’t caused any issues, and this whole dramatic “the house will turn into a doss house” is just being dramatic, she’s no idea if that’s true or not. Or even if these guys work.

Yes nor would I.

they are drinking Stella, since midday….. and since Thursday.

Been drinking solidly since Thursday.
the young people who lived there before have moved out.
The neighbourhood is “working class” .

six bedroom house. Only two people live there.

Im hoping it’s just because of the weather.

Since Thursday? OP is concerned that they look at her - maybe they're wondering why she appears to be stalking them?

Just because you don’t like something, or happen to be scared of it, or think it’s bad, that doesn’t mean people aren’t allowed to do it when it’s perfectly legal. It’s not illegal to be an alcoholic, or to sit in a front garden, or to look at passers by. You can’t stop people doing things just because you don’t think they’re nice.

My neighbour at my old house used to sit on his doorstep drinking rum all summer. Did I approve? No. Did I think I would be reasonable to try and stop him from doing it? Also no, because he was perfectly entitled to drink at the front of his house if he wanted to, whether I liked it or not.

Oh surprised the ops come back. Not with any answers to any questions though