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To not want their car on my driveway?

395 replies

Parkingmoan1 · 16/07/2022 13:44

I live in a city in a ground floor flat, no garden but I have a driveway that comes with my flat.

I don't have a car so this Is why I don't know if I'm being unreasonable..

My doorway / driveway gets alot of direct sun so I like to dry my washing out there on racks when the weather is nice. I also like to sit out there on a chair with a cold drink and a book sometimes.

A few months ago a family moved into the flat above me and have taken to parking their big people carrier on my drive. They didn't ask my permission, just assumed they were entitled to because I don't have a car.

My frustration is when their car is there I can't put my washing out, it also blocks alot of the sun. They park it diagonally aswell which is a PITA for me getting my pram in and out.

They are out there at the minute cleaning and hoovering the car about 3ft away from my doorstep so I can't sit out and enjoy the sun / a bit of peace and quiet.

AIBU to be unhappy about them using my drive in this way? The poll results will determine what, if anything, I say to them.

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Lineala · 16/07/2022 14:47

carefullycourageous · 16/07/2022 14:28

Excellent for the landlord to address it - this is one of the perks of renting - you should take advantage of it because renters get shafted in many other ways!

If you have told your LL that you want to use it for planters and they have said nothing, I would go ahead. It is not your job to worry about these matters - again that is your LL's problem. You only have to comply with your tenancy agreement.

Normally with a leasehold property that is rented out the tenant is provided with a copy of the headlease alongside the tenancy agreement. In the tenancy agreement is a clause advising they must also comply with the terms of the headlease.

What you have said saying it's the landlord's problem is not true. The tenant must comply with the terms otherwise if the breaches continued she will receive a notice served, the landlord would have no other option. The landlord has a contractual duty with the freeholder to ensure the headlease is complied with. The penalty for failing to do so can eventually be forfeiture.

Please don't post on here with pseudo legal advice. It's very misleading for readers and can have dire consequences if they believe it.

mam0918 · 16/07/2022 14:47

Are they reasonable neighbors?

Our house had stood empty for many years before we moved in and when we did move I didnt drive yet. Our neighbors (the man turned out to be a sexist abusive asshole) had 2 big his and hers SUVs and always parked one in our space.

As the house had been empty no one complained when they moved in and then I didnt have a car so wasnt using it apart from for guests so didnt rock the boat.

THEN I passed my test and bought a car, which I parked in MY spot and WW3 broke out, the neighbor kicked through my door threatening to kill me in front of my kid (luckily I was on the phone to the police who heard everything).

They came straight out and a no contact order was put in place but do you know what the polices approach to fix it was?

To tell me to give him the space and park my car in the public car park down the road (where it then got broken into and the police did not help at all).

If they are nice people mention it, but be aware some people are crazy over stuff like this and the police dont greatly help.

Goldbar · 16/07/2022 14:48

Planters, table and chairs and a 'no parking' sign ought to do the trick.

LionKween · 16/07/2022 14:48

Put a note on their window screen Private parking, please move your car

mam0918 · 16/07/2022 14:50

ClocksGoingBackwards · 16/07/2022 13:48

They are cheeky fuckers. I’d tell them that you’ve noticed that they find it convenient to park on your drive so you’d like to offer them the opportunity to formalise the arrangement and can allow them to continue using your drive for £150 per week. You will ensure that no one without permission parks on your drive for them by purchasing a clamp that will get used on any car that doesn’t pay.

Its illegal to clamp or tow cars... only the police or local authorities can.

MajorCarolDanvers · 16/07/2022 14:50

YABU because you haven't spoken to them.

If you speak to them and they still park there then YANBU

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 16/07/2022 14:51

I’m not NT either, but speaking up and being assertive is a skill you can gain and improve on. If you don’t speak up, they might not even know they’re in the wrong.

PeppaPigIsAnnoying · 16/07/2022 14:52

I'd speak to them and if it continues, install a bollard etc

daytriptovulcan · 16/07/2022 14:53

Get some potted plants and a cheap garden table and chair, and put it out their. Tell them the drive is actually your garden and you own it. That ought to settle it for you.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 16/07/2022 14:55

daytriptovulcan · 16/07/2022 14:53

Get some potted plants and a cheap garden table and chair, and put it out their. Tell them the drive is actually your garden and you own it. That ought to settle it for you.

Not without speaking to them first. It would be taken as passive aggression. They might actually be under the impression the parking spot is theirs. Much better to talk or write as the opening gambit.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 16/07/2022 14:55

mam0918 · 16/07/2022 14:50

Its illegal to clamp or tow cars... only the police or local authorities can.

She could get a locking bollards, though, if they don’t listen to a polite chat/note.

Rodion · 16/07/2022 14:56

I rented one flat where someone new moved in and started using our space - turns out the estate agent had told them they could. It was equally annoying for them as they'd rented it on the basis of having parking. But it was sorted amicably so hopefully yours can be too.

Cherrysoup · 16/07/2022 15:00

@Parkingmoan1 penguin bollards is a joke, from an old thread. They're massive. It would have been better to politely say it is your drive the first time he used it, now he’s in the habit of using it. I hope your landlord can sort it out.

ivykaty44 · 16/07/2022 15:00

Id get some concrete planters and pop on your drive, plant them up with flowers, lavender etc

Parkingmoan1 · 16/07/2022 15:02

ThinWomansBrain · 16/07/2022 14:44

without a diagram 😂it's hard to know - but they could perfectly reasonably assumed that it's communal parking for the building. Hopefully the LL letter will resolve the issue, but YABU for not saying anything at the outset.

I'm shit at diagrams but here's a picture (taken for my landlord)

I know IABU for the state of my windows, that's my shit attempt at cleaning them after the window cleaner left but please dont derail😂

To not want their car on my driveway?
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ivykaty44 · 16/07/2022 15:02

It would be taken as passive aggression.

hardly aggression, if someone keeps using your land unauthorised and you put plans in place to stop it happening - its not aggressive but defensive

girlmom21 · 16/07/2022 15:04

Your landlord is seeing nothing from that photo Grin

AlecTrevelyan006 · 16/07/2022 15:05

Buy the cheapest car you can find and park it on the drive

Parkingmoan1 · 16/07/2022 15:06

girlmom21 · 16/07/2022 15:04

Your landlord is seeing nothing from that photo Grin

Ffs 😂

They've gone out now I'll have to wait until they're back to get another.

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Staffy1 · 16/07/2022 15:06

A bollard would probably need permission from the landlord.

Notanotherwindow · 16/07/2022 15:07

If you have to speak to them go in with a big smile, bright and cheery, ask after the children, are they doing anything nice for the summer hols etc. Leave no awkward silence to fill. When you're smiling and being nice to their kids people tend to be more agreeable.

Yorkshirebred · 16/07/2022 15:07

AlecTrevelyan006 · 16/07/2022 15:05

Buy the cheapest car you can find and park it on the drive

Stupid advice - it would still need insurance even if SORN

NonagonInfinityOpensTheDoor · 16/07/2022 15:09

I never buy the “they might not know” theory. Every flat I’ve ever lived in (rented) has been VERY clear about the parking situation, either numbered spaces, very much informed when signing the lease, given in writing etc and exactly where / how many cars you can park. When I bought my first flat it was also very clear. It’s CF plain and simple imo, so the whole “speak
to them first before blocking access” is bollocks. They didn’t speak to anyone when they starting parking across 2 spaces like a prime bellend, they know fine well what they’re doing.

girlmom21 · 16/07/2022 15:10

@Parkingmoan1 try at about 9pm. They're likely to be home for the day but still plenty light enough for you to go outside and get a good picture

mummymeister · 16/07/2022 15:11

OP go out there now, whilst they arent there. Move the pots that you have, put some washing out (even if its faked ) and put a chair out there. basically just fill up the space. and when they return dont move just sit there. People take the piss like this because they can. they depend on people not confronting them.