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AIBU to wonder why mumsnet is so quiet these days!

122 replies

filettodipesce · 15/07/2022 23:34

It's such a disappointment, what has happened?

OP posts:
A580Hojas · 16/07/2022 06:29

@PaceFalm. I think you've summed it up perfectly, great post.

Mumsnet was more apealing to me when it was smaller and you got to know people a bit.

You're quite right in your memory about the Daily Mail - HQ were up for making it an official partnership after that MNetter/journalist wrote her "Today on Mumsnet" piece.

I wasn't in the Cod circle or moldies but those early pioneers did set the tone of the site and upheld the unwritten rules like no hunning or text speak.

Maybe I look back through rose tinted specs but Mumsnet was a lot less viperish a decade or more ago. There was less anger.

aprofoundhistoricaloddity · 16/07/2022 06:31

PaceFalm · 16/07/2022 04:42

My conspiracy theory is that the early humour and language and posting style was a specific organic thing that arose from early posters when the site was small, but it had lots of unwritten rules and codes and in-jokes and a few ‘royalty’ posters and lots of long-standing recognisable user names. All of which MN HQ probably found potentially off-putting to scaling the site up for huge numbers of users.

So I think HQ broke that original culture on purpose when attempting to scale up the site to attract more ad revenue and more users. Name changers = multiple usernames = the appearance of a greater number of regular users. New users arriving = a greater number of regulars.

The Daily Mail trawling (which I’m sure was actively encouraged at least at first by MNHQ ) brought in the Mail’s angry BTL commenters and that really changed the atmosphere.

Also things like Gordon Brown coming on here and not being able to choose a favorite biscuit being reported as a news item, plus the mainstream media nicknaming a general election around that time, the ‘Mumsnet’ election, would have brought in new posters from all over the place, to see what it was all about.

Penis Beaker etc hitting the Mail brought in a big influx of new people so the old people felt the culture had changed on the site back then- then the horrible swatting and data breaches and Jeffrey taking over the site and it shutting down for a few days made it too scary to stay on here for a lot of posters. It definitely put people off keeping the same username for any length of time so we stopped feeling like we recognise each other’s names.

Since the site got a name for being a big forum it has been targeted by people doing free market research on us, paid posters doing product placement, paid people just generally here for work, testing stuff out for free. Not just normal women posting any more.

It was really grim for that here in the run up to Brexit with endless bots and paid shills in droves arguing pro-Brexit points (just calling remainers names usually). Still see a bit of that type of poster around on some threads. The heavy use of ban hammer on the feminism boards deterred a lot of women and is another example of HQ deliberately shaping the posting culture.

MN used to reflect and maintain the original culture and style with their choice of mods, who wrote fun weekly highlight emails in the old-style site vernacular. I remember the funny weekly round up emails from Aitch. Now it’s an edited highlights email with no comment around it. Neutral to the reader seems to have been the preferred corporate personality for several years now. It is a bit Magnolia paint and that definitely changes the vibe.

We’re maybe some of us a bit older and grumpier since we first arrived? I am anyway! But I still like the site and have learned a lot from posters. I am curious to know where all the old posters are now though…

This. I miss the humour and the good advice- also many of the regular posters have been banned or left.
Maryz, Langcleg, Hullygully and many many more.

sidheandlight · 16/07/2022 06:36

thedogshatonthematt · 16/07/2022 03:02

Maybe people have started taking heed of advice on here and are all at a spa day?

😂

AmazingBouncingFerret · 16/07/2022 06:36

Theres not as much gentle humour anymore and a lot more snippiness.
There’s not as much disrailing threads because of a joke.

Nowadays “Is that you UCM?” would be “well you have obviously not namechanged have you, because you have been posting under that name since forever, I’ve showed you up, I win!”

Grin
A580Hojas · 16/07/2022 06:36

My scrolling thumb is also getting tired of working through threads where the quote function is over-used!!

sidheandlight · 16/07/2022 06:41

Adelishious · 16/07/2022 06:02

I believe its due to the oppressive moderation in order to conform to a strict left wing ideology. The talk guidelines are merely lipservice and free speech is stifled under the guise that grown adults would be offended. Some of the comments I see removed I feel like I'm on an infants board, I've even had my own comments removed a couple of times for merely stating facts, just because someone else doesn't like them!

No meaningful conversation or debate about ANY controversial or difficult topic can take place without SOMEONE being offended by the very nature of the topic and variety of views, so an echo chamber ensues where everyone agrees with everyone and when someone posts re: a controversial topic all views must conform to the left wing narrative or they're simply removed due to a triggered left winger.

Yes, very easy to trigger a sensitive mind these days. I think this site is air b and being it, it is on the way out. For a forum to work, it has to be able to run close to the edge of acceptability; and this one is too wound up now. everything is deleted.

Limecoconutice · 16/07/2022 06:44

Well there comes a point when most subjects pertaining to practical things have been covered:

How often do you shower?
Do you take your shoes off indoors?
How often do you change your bed sheets?
Best batch cooking recipes?
...all been done to death!

And more emotional topics can't really be explored with any sensitivity or nuance nowadays BC many posters are so aggressive, that people don't dare to post about any personal problems they may have.

Which leaves a few topics which are helpful and interesting (such as feminism and politics and some advice in relationships ) but that's about it

Walkley18 · 16/07/2022 06:46

On a slightly different but related tack, the daily round up choices have been really boring for a few months now and so maybe people aren't clicking through and seeing other threads while there? I have seen some interesting threads (as OP states, not many!) but they're never the ones in the round up.

InChocolateWeTrust · 16/07/2022 06:47

I've been here years. I think people are sick of social media. In all forms.

This. Social media was a novelty, when everyone was on it the content was pretty good, then everyone got bored so now the content is crap and no one with a brain uses it as much. Facebook has been hit far worse than mnet though. No one uses it at all it's just full of crap.

InChocolateWeTrust · 16/07/2022 06:48

Oh and the deleting/policing of certain types of threads is too much like censorship for my liking.

sidheandlight · 16/07/2022 06:49

and yes the new layout follows all accessibility 'ideals' to a tee and then alienates probably about 50% of users that don't require the accessibility characteristics applied. Of course you lose traffic. A better web company would have catered for both types of user 🤔you just lose confidence in the whole shitshow and there are users on here who are experienced programmers who would say the same. It would be interesting to hear their perspective. Lots of money paid I bet and lots of users lost.

BoopTheFoof · 16/07/2022 06:50

So where has everyone gone??? What site are they on now?

It reminds me of the 80s when you had a great popular pub where all your friends go, them the landlord would change it and everyone went somewhere else.....SO WHERE IS THE NEW PUB?????

Whiskyforbreakfast · 16/07/2022 06:52

Maybe because mumsnet is very fond of deleting posters.
A poster can give 100+ nice comments, great advice, be empathetic but wow betide that same poster gives a wrong answer or calls a trans man a man! Account deleted without so much as a right to appeal.
How many times do you think those posters will return?

Yorkshirebred · 16/07/2022 06:53

Far too many angry people on here now. I see the same usernames piling on to an OP time and time again - tedious as fuck.

Very little humour, There used to be so much fun and irrelevance but nada now.

TigerRag · 16/07/2022 06:54

A lot of forums are much quieter these days, compared to say 5-10 years ago

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/07/2022 06:56

It's the re-platforming.

It is. MNHQ, sort it out.

Chakraleaf · 16/07/2022 06:57

Don't like the new app style. Hate it.

Nahimjustaworm · 16/07/2022 07:01

I'm fairly new to MN but check and post quite regularly. Here's what irritates me and is making me slowly less engaged...

  1. The biggest frustration is when you've engaged with a thread thinking you're genuinely helping someone to realise that it was likely a f%*ing journalist deliberately starting a thread to write a none-story about. Unbelievably distasteful especially when the thread has been deliberately created to stir up racism/political extremism

  2. As pp have said you can't make a joke without someone jumping down your throat. I guess this is the same IRL as well though 🤣

  3. The anti-doctor/anti-teacher etc vitriol that seems to sneak into so many posts even that aren't about these professions

  4. The general bugginess of the site. Little things like not being able to change typos after I've posted. Not being able to check back what I've posted without trawling back through the rest of a thread etc.... I'm sure someone cleverer than me will probably tell me that these things ARE possible now haha

I think people are generally becoming more disillusioned by social media as well. It's a fake world and dangerously it's still managing to affect lives and have a heavy impact on the real world. It's quite scary and sad really..

TeenDivided · 16/07/2022 07:07

A580Hojas · 16/07/2022 06:36

My scrolling thumb is also getting tired of working through threads where the quote function is over-used!!

That's been fixed, wt least on my version. You now only see the last post and there is a link to inside the quoted quotes.

11Hawkins · 16/07/2022 07:09

Because you can be nice as pie for 100-200 threads, you say one tiny thing that people disagree with MN ban you.

It's over policed, not much freedom of speech and the new platform is awful it's constantly breaking.

11Hawkins · 16/07/2022 07:10

BoopTheFoof · 16/07/2022 06:50

So where has everyone gone??? What site are they on now?

It reminds me of the 80s when you had a great popular pub where all your friends go, them the landlord would change it and everyone went somewhere else.....SO WHERE IS THE NEW PUB?????

Reddit is the new pub. Grin

ProfYaffle · 16/07/2022 07:14

The default position seems to be 'an op's place is in the wrong' - of course people are going to stop posting if they get attacked all the time.

AllThatAndMore · 16/07/2022 07:17

I use to go on a lot more but to be honest some of the topics and comments have made me feel a bit crap about myself sometimes. I then start to wonder if the outside world thinks the same way as mumsnet . I’m not from the U.K. originally and I’ve always felt a tiny bit like an outsider and mumsnet makes that worse for me .

Dailywalk · 16/07/2022 07:20

I’ve used MN since my eldest was born and she’s nearly 15 but recently adverts and a access denied access pop up so often it’s really difficult to use. I also get the screen asking me to accept consent every time I click on a new page. Its so frustrating!

AIBU to wonder why mumsnet is so quiet these days!
daisychain01 · 16/07/2022 07:20

paisley256 · 16/07/2022 00:42

Does anyone remember the days of Hullygully? There used to be so much silliness on here, I miss that.

Oh yes, that elitist shite where if you were one of the groovy gang you were "allowed" to crack the in-joke and everyone swarmed round and paid homage, otherwise you were ignored.

yup bring back those happy days (not)