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Why was this stranger so rude and mean to me?

117 replies

shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 21:58

I met up with a friend today for dinner, we stopped at a pub first to have a soft drink - note my use of 'soft' to highlight the fact I wasn't drunk and misinterpreting anything.

I went upstairs to the loo and an employee said that both males and females loos were blocked but I could go to the second floor and use the disabled one.

Up on the second floor was another bar and long corridor with multiple doors but no directions to the disabled loo, there was a congregation of about 5 people all stood in a huddle at the entrance of the corridor.

I politely asked "are you guys queueing for the toilet" and one bloke replied really abruptly "obviously we fucking are, are you blind?"

I was taken aback and felt myself going red with embarrassment. I said I wasn't familiar with the pub and didn't actually know where the disabled toilet was and there was no need to be rude.

I join the huddle and stand awkwardly whilst he started moaning to another man there about people being 'stupid' and not using common sense, whilst looking me up and down.

In the heat of the moment, because i felt a bit humiliated to be honest, I asked whether he makes a habit of being so rude to people he doesn't know. His response was "don't start"

Another man comes upstairs and asks the exact same question as I did to the group "are you waiting for the toilet" to which the rude one cheerily responds something along the lines of "yes mate" or pal, whichever it was.

He obviously picks and chooses who he's going to be rude to based on gender, but why was he so rude to me?

He was with a woman who to be honest looked embarrassed by his behaviour.

It really spoiled my day.

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shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 22:35

I'm sorry some here have experienced similar, these sods are probably ten a penny sadly.

I'm convinced it's a misogynistic thing too. The only difference between me and the other man who asked the same question was the fact the man could have probably flattened him if he were so inclined.

For the PP that asked, I'm late 20's and he looked to be early to mid 40's.

Nobody who was stood with him said a word no. It's a shame none of the other blokes within earshot came to my defence but then as you said PP it's easier to look the other way.

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NoSquirrels · 10/07/2022 22:35

He obviously picks and chooses who he's going to be rude to based on gender, but why was he so rude to me?

Haven’t you answered your own question? He was rude to you because he’s a rude man who enjoys belittling women. Arsehole. You did the right thing speaking up and telling him he was rude. Now forget him.

shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 22:37

onlythreenow · 10/07/2022 22:31

He was an arse, but honestly you need to stop thinking about it. If that is the most rude and mean thing anyone has ever said to you then you've had a pretty sheltered life. It's pointless trying to work out why people say/do things.

No of course it isn't.

I just happen to be quite sensitive, never more so than after a DV relationship. It was so out of the blue and so unnecessarily nasty it has played on my mind.

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DillonPanthersFNL · 10/07/2022 22:38

Serious question but why else would people be 'congregating' in a corridor near the disabled (only working) toilets ? For the good of their health?

He was a prick though

shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 22:38

I won't dwell on it, I'll be over it by tomorrow. I just wanted to get it out of my system. Some people are cunts and I should probably try and develop a thicker skin as he won't be the last I'm sure.

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buckeejit · 10/07/2022 22:40

He was a cheeky fucker. I'd have said to the newcomer, 'I'm glad he's learnt some manners & tell him what he said to you. But that wouldn't have been great either. Did nobody else in the queue say anything?

PuppyMonkey · 10/07/2022 22:40

Does sound like a knob end but also intrigued about a pub putting the disabled loo on the second floor.Confused

buckeejit · 10/07/2022 22:42

Sorry see no one else spoke. Disappointing but thanks for sharing & hope it's helped.

He's a prick & you're not so you can rest easy Flowers

shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 22:42

DillonPanthersFNL · 10/07/2022 22:38

Serious question but why else would people be 'congregating' in a corridor near the disabled (only working) toilets ? For the good of their health?

He was a prick though

The corridor opening (where they were stood) was right next to the bar and it was busy so they could've easily been waiting to order drinks. They weren't actually queueing in the usual fashion either, more so just congregating at the corridor entrance.

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MiddleParking · 10/07/2022 22:42

DillonPanthersFNL · 10/07/2022 22:38

Serious question but why else would people be 'congregating' in a corridor near the disabled (only working) toilets ? For the good of their health?

He was a prick though

Well you’ve literally just done a slightly differently worded version of the same thing Hmm

BlueStarfish · 10/07/2022 22:43

OP don't dwell on it. Maybe the person he was with didn't say anything because he's dangerous. Look at it as having dodged a bullet, he was probably drunk and unhinged so he could have hurt you. Let it go.

shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 22:44

I hope somebody comes along who is familiar with the gate house (spoons) in Greenwich as I don't think I'm explaining very well 😅

It's an odd layout, as they usually are.

Ground floor has the main bar. Toilets are up some stairs, but then there are some further stairs that lead to another bar.

That bar is next to a corridor that leads to the so-called disabled toilet.

I agree it makes no sense having a disabled toilet on the upper floor but that's spoons for you.

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heartbroken22 · 10/07/2022 22:49

It wasn't anything on you it was just him. Maybe he couldn't wait any longer was ready to crap his pants but in this came the crap came out of his mouth. Don't let him ruin your mood... x

DFOD · 10/07/2022 22:49

5 male friends waiting to go to the loo together …. Looks like they were off for a toot more likely than synchronised bladders.

Don’t feel bad for feeling wounded - because you were attacked. We are never expecting it and it’s disturbing.

Assume he’s an anxty tedious coke head.

shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 22:52

I don't think he was actually out with any of the others, just the woman. She must have felt mortified, imagine being out with somebody who behaves like that.

Thanks for the kind words all.

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Thinkingblonde · 10/07/2022 22:54

Because he’s a twat and a coward to boot, he knew his comments wouldn’t go down well with another testosterone bearer. I expect the others in queue thought he was a twat as well.

KarmaStar · 10/07/2022 22:57

Yanbu to be upset but Yabu to allow someone to manipulate your emotions,especially a stranger.
He was acting like a prize idiot and was so far in the wrong here..You should not feel bad.

checkingout · 10/07/2022 22:59

I know at least a couple of Wetherspoon's where you have to go through stairs to get to the loo. I'm not shocked by the ridiculous fact the disabled loo is up on the second floor or on a mezzanine up/down some some stairs. I suppose putting it on the ground floor woud take away "valuable" space from tables.

jewishmum · 10/07/2022 23:03

Cocaine?

mumwon · 10/07/2022 23:03

If this guy had a brain - um answering someone who asked if this was a the (disabled) loo by saying are you blind? I wonder what he would say if someone said yes that's why I am waiting to use disabled loo!

shqiptareJ · 10/07/2022 23:07

It was quite confusing. There was no sign to say thats where the toilet was. To me (and everybody else I guess, given that somebody else asked the same question 2 minutes later) it just looked like a group of people having a chat by the bar.

They could've actually queued in said corridor rather than meandering at the entrance of it. No idea why they didn't.

Coke.. I didn't think of that. Entirely possible I suppose.

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ThePumpkinPatch · 10/07/2022 23:08

DillonPanthersFNL · 10/07/2022 22:38

Serious question but why else would people be 'congregating' in a corridor near the disabled (only working) toilets ? For the good of their health?

He was a prick though

I think we've found a relative of the guy in question Hmm

Incywincyspi · 10/07/2022 23:09

You felt shaken up because you are in all likelihood a decent person and don’t expect such twattish behaviour in response to a very normal question. It’s a shock when people are unkind like this

Longt · 10/07/2022 23:10

He showed himself up for what a utter twat he was when he was polite to the bloke. Sorry OP, it’s not nice but it was him not you

BlueStarfish · 10/07/2022 23:12

ThePumpkinPatch · 10/07/2022 23:08

I think we've found a relative of the guy in question Hmm

😂