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Sister disclosed that her DP 'hid' in his ex's home for 6 months

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Coffeestout · 10/07/2022 15:38

Hi all my sister, to whom I'm very close, has started seeing a guy and it's getting serious but she confided something to me that has shocked me about him.
He is in his early fifties and seems to be OK. Good job and own house but she recently told me something about him that made me go hmm...
In his late twenties, he was living at home with his parents and continually out of work.
He had pressure put on him to do something by his mother so - and I cannot get my head around this but it's true-he pretended to be working away but instead hid in a female friend's flat for 6 months.
Apparently he hoped to go home after his 'contract' ended which he did but obviously having been out in the big wide world his folks wanted him to continue in the same vein - which he didn't.
He ended up moving in with his female friend, who at the time was a recently divorced single mum of a two-year - old child, and they become a couple.
She gets pregnant and after about ten years of him doing nothing chucks him out.
Since then, he's turned his life around and is successful but my view has changed of him now, frankly the fact he hid in his ex's flat for months when she had a small kid makes me think he's an user.

I mean the poor woman must not have been able to have anybody round her place and to be frank as regards as benefits were concerned the whole thing was dodgy to say the least-though after all this time no longer provable.

Oh I'm not saying his ex is blameless but yes a bit vulnerable after a divorce.
Anyway this is about him not his ex who incidentally appears to despise him.

But my sister really likes him and he has seemed to have turned things around but I'm still mistrustful of him since she told me this.

AIBU people CAN change or am I right in thinking that this is such a terrible thing this guy is screwed in the head in a fundamentally awful way.

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Viviennemary · 10/07/2022 16:47

So what. It may have been unwise behaviour at the time but it was decades zgo.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 10/07/2022 16:56

So all you know is he lied to his parents for 6 months. There is no reason to assume his friend wasn't happy with it or curtailing her own or her daughters activities.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 10/07/2022 16:56

I’d be looking for proof that he’s actually working now, and hasn’t obtained his money by grifting.

beautyisthefaceisee · 10/07/2022 16:57

Is the baby his?

Quia · 10/07/2022 16:59

sparepantsandtoothbrush · 10/07/2022 15:59

God I glad I'm not judged on the stupid shit I did 25 years ago!

Did you live off your parents for so long they had to push you to get out, then lie about getting another job and go to extreme lengths living off someone else for six months to maintain the lie, then go and sponge off said friend for another ten years? It's a bit more than the stupid one-off things we all did when young, it's a prolonged course of cocklodging because he can't be bothered to go out and work to earn a living.

Quia · 10/07/2022 17:02

If I were your sister, I would certainly want very good evidence that he is now working in a steady job, that he really owns his house and (if applicable) is paying the mortgage, is paying full maintenance for his child, and has come totally clean with his parents.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 10/07/2022 17:05

It was a long time ago and he could have had depression or something so really how can any of us speculate that much if we do not have the full facts. As you yourself said he has moved on from all that and is in a much better place so who are we to judge, we all have stuff in our past so should we never be in a relationship ever again. It is up to your sister and if he treats her well and they are happy then leave it at that. If she wants to talk to you about it she will again.

Coffeestout · 10/07/2022 17:06

sweeneytoddsrazor · 10/07/2022 16:56

So all you know is he lied to his parents for 6 months. There is no reason to assume his friend wasn't happy with it or curtailing her own or her daughters activities.

When he came out of 'hiding'and moved back in with his parents, he and female friend were not a couple but lo and behold as soon as his parents put pressure on him to move out permanently to work suddenly they are.
Effing cocklodger. Yes she may have wanted him but that's not the point, is it?

She hates him now anyway and so does his kid.

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BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 10/07/2022 17:06

I agree with Sparepantsandtooth. Lots I guess have lived like saints and never did anything wrong or fecked up in their lives. Let your sister get on with her life and be happy if he is treating her good and he has sorted himself out.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 10/07/2022 17:10

You are far too invested in his behaviour from then and what went on with his ex and him is not your business once he is treating your sister good now and has his crap together. You sound like a shit stirrer to be honest. Judge on his behaviour now and not all that time ago.

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/07/2022 17:12

Late twenties - unemployed, mooching off parents.
Thirties - unemployed, mooching off ex / girlfriend.

If she hadn't chucked him out, he'd probably still be living off her.

Nope. To live like that you have to have a certain attitude to other people (they exist to meet my needs and wants) and I don't really think he'll have fundamentally changed since then. On the surface, he has. Underneath, if his circumstances change (and we're heading for a recession so they well might), he'll be straight back to being a parasite.

I would bin him now.

ancientgran · 10/07/2022 17:16

ZaraSizeMedium · 10/07/2022 16:12

This period of deception and cocklodging lasted from his late 20's, for 10 years, so into his late 30's.

Hardly something he did short term, as a stupid kid.

I thought he hid for six months and then lived with her for 10 years.

nocoolnamesleft · 10/07/2022 17:17

Total cocklodger. More red flags than a May day parade.

dottiedodah · 10/07/2022 17:38

I think he sounds dodgy Im afraid ."Hiding in plain sight " so he doesnt have to get a job! well weird .Maybe hes changed .In my experience that would be a complete turnaround if he really is "successful"

GetThatHelmetOn · 10/07/2022 17:41

I know a guy who did something like this, he felt pressured to that point and unable to find a job as quick as he wanted pretended to be working away during the day.

I was quite shocked when he told me that but, after knowing him well for more than 10 years, I can say he is very hardworking as a consultant, he saves a good chunk of his income for when he is between contracts and is totally financially independent, so yes, people can be better than we thought, but ten years without a job? Not sure that is the same unless he and his ex had an agreement where he would become a SAHP to care for the children while she developed her career.

camdenl · 10/07/2022 17:42

i don’t care about the specifics of how it worked, the bottom line is I would think lowly of any person who chose to present to be employed vs actually getting a job and being a responsible adult. Surely if he put half of that effort into finding a job, he would have become successful much sooner.

kateandme · 10/07/2022 17:42

Either way op.your sister likes him.so to go further you might not.but you can't stop her doing this.so your role and tboufhts on this don't matter.unless your relationship is one where she's seeking your help in what to do.then you can share all your fears kindly.
If not frustratingly you have to just wait and fall to the supporter.whilst possibly digging.
Can you contact the ex?
But even this if your sister finds out?
So going forwards has to be about protecting your sis and you two's relationship.
People do really bad shit in their past.most believe it or not if they've changed,hate themselves for it and are better people.some aren't.
Also if it was done under mental illness that is totally different.thats not choice.

ThinWomansBrain · 10/07/2022 17:45

Odd - but at least he's been honest enough to be open about it - so prewarned, but probably best to give him a cautious benefit of doubt.

Butchyrestingface · 10/07/2022 17:52

I'm going to have to look into it more closely. Only way.

Why?

sweeneytoddsrazor · 10/07/2022 18:04

Was the ex partner working and supporting him or were they claiming benefits? Was he a SAHP?
It might have been a convenient arrangement for him, but she was obviously happy at the time to go along with it, and it now seems he has changed. People do I am not the same person I was 10 years ago, neither are most people. Things that are important now that 20 years ago I couldn't have cared less about, and vice versa.
How exactly do you intend to look into it further.

Coffeestout · 10/07/2022 18:13

In all honesty, I find the idea of this guy hiding like this when there's a two-year-old kid involved particularly repulsive.

NOT because I think he's got paedophilic tendencies. I MUST stress that but because it gives me the ick.

His female friend (later girlfriend) looking after his laundry etc etc while he just slapped his dole on the table.

She must have been really in love with him.
I wouldn't be: the moment he revealed his 'plan' to hide to me I'd get the utter ick no matter how much I liked him!

@GetThatHelmetOn not good but maybe he was ashamed and to be honest I do have a little sympathy for him, but what I'm talking about is something else again.

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Summerslam · 10/07/2022 18:16

How do you know so much detail about your sister's boyfriend? Your posts sound as if you're making a lot of assumptions about this man.

Thefriendlymoth · 10/07/2022 18:20

Knowing nothing about the back story or his relationship with his parents then, it’s hard to judge too harshly imo. It wasn’t a decade, just almost a stepping stone and granted if it were a pattern of behaviour I’d be concerned but if he’s been living independently for a while it may have just been a bit of a phase whilst he sorted himself out/ learned to work on communication with his parents. Like, it could be a red flag but without knowing him, his career and behaviour now, it wouldn’t be a deal breaker. Particularly if he was honest about it. I would be concerned about lack of relationship with his children.

TokyoTen · 10/07/2022 18:22

Personally it was be a no for continuing the relationship from me. If he can be that dishonest to his parents for such a long period of time he can hide anything.

IrisVersicolor · 10/07/2022 18:24

It’s not just that he hid he then ligged off her for 10 years.

What is this miraculous career turnaround that he experienced after a couple of decades out of work?

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