To think Andrea Jenkyns should not be an Education Minister

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She stuck her middle finger up at the crowd and yelled "he who laughs last laughs best. Wait and see!"

twitter.com/AntonSpisak/status/1545520094918463488?t=D7QALk0EJgVKLdXr_Hq-LQ&s=19

It's so infuriating to see this country reduced to this state

Not really, Angela Rayner I imagine one day would like to be PM herself ,she can't be a political world leader and call people scum .

Do you think Angela Rayner is fit to serve as the deputy leader of the opposition?

@x2boys any chance of your commenting on the new Education Minister's independently of Angela Rayner?

You first ,I think it's a comparable situation.

Any chance of your keeping to the point of the thread without whataboutery? I imagine you're finding that hard.

You want me to answer your question but won't answer mine ?

I don't consider it comparable and it's not the subject of the thread.

You are attempting to divert - as Andrea Jenkyns is a Johnson loyalist I'm unsurprised by your behaviour.

@x2boys I'm asking you to comment on the subject matter of the thread, but I imagine you are having a bit of trouble with that.

Stupid thing to do.

She isn't in the cabinet, and she isn't Secretary of State for education- she's a junior minister in the education department.

Education is one of the main areas in which this 12-year old Conservative government has utterly failed to get any sort of grip on gender ideology.

Parents are in despair while this stuff goes on and on and on.

Ah well there you go they have both acted terribly either they should both be sacked or nether, you can't have it both ways.

I suggested that you commented on Andrea Jenkyns ' behaviour in its own right. Still too difficult for you?

That's an actual minister of the cabinet of the United Kingdom

According to her Twitter account, Andrea Jenkyns was only appointed as a parliamentary under-secretary - which is the lowest of three tiers of government minister and definitely not a cabinet position. James Cleverly is the Secretary of State for Education and Will Quince returned as the Minister of State:

www.gov.uk/government/people/james-cleverly
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-will-quince-minister-b2118367.html

there's already a photo of Emily Thornberry doing the same at an Evening Standard event. No idea of the context, but that won't matter.

Just seen that in the op's link (Bridget Phillipson, the Labour MP's Twitter feed) - GE hustings 2017 apparently.

Also from the op's link - true to form, Angela Rayner told Rishi Sunak to 'do one' recently on social media;

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10841235/After-Tory-scum-outburst-Angela-Rayner-insults-Rishi-Sunak-vulgar-tweet.html

Oh the mistress of whataboutery is here now.

Yes, Angela Raynor's comment was unacceptable. She did fully apologise and that was acknowledged by Tory MPS at the time:

"Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi welcomed the apology, tweeting: "Thank you for a message from the heart." The Tory chair of the foreign affairs committee, Tom Tugendhat, also thanked Labour's deputy leader for her "reflection", while Tory MP Danny Kruger tweeted: "Good to hear this generous and thoughtful apology from the always interesting Angela Rayner. "

The Andrea Jenkyns case is rather different, as the Education Minister is directly responsible for behaviour in schools. Every teacher will see this and cringe - because how do they tell children that respectful behaviour matters when they can see this from the Education Minister?

And her apology is basically "they started it" - which is not an acceptable defense for poor behaviour in schools either.

The other irony is that "we're only human" has never been an allowable defence in any Ofsted inspection.

Oh I'm happy to stand corrected

That's an actual junior minister of education of the United Kingdom government going into Downing Street, not some very young parish councillor somewhere.

It took Angela Rayner several weeks to apologise and she first clsimed she would never apologise .

That wasn’t what you were asked.

Jenkyns has no authority now. Inexcusable.

Still attempting to divert the thread and not prepared to engage with its subject then?

I m just pointing out the innacuracies that all .

Appalling

No ifs or buts - just appalling

@x2boys no you aren't. You're failing to engage with the question the OP is posing.

@x2boys but the Tories ARE scum. Scum scum scum. Utter scum. The scummiest of scum.

She was only telling the honest truth, a rare quality to be valued in a politician.

I've just asked DD about this... I said this implied it was ok for her to stick her finger up to the teachers. She's 13 and horrified that someone in the government and especially in education would behave in this way. She said it doesn't set a good example to children and she should get the sack. Imagine if teachers did this.... completely unacceptable behaviour. She should resign - there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever and no amount of apologising will change things....she's not fit for office if she can't control herself