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To go on a plane with covid?

410 replies

Coursha · 09/07/2022 08:38

I have covid right now and due to fly to Spain in a few days. The rules are that I just need to show my vaccine pass but doesn’t seem to say don’t travel of you have covid. Can this be right? Don’t know if I need to cancel. I tested positive 4 days ago.

OP posts:
TigerRag · 10/07/2022 07:25

ludocris · 09/07/2022 23:50

What people fail to realise is that if everyone keeps following the rules like it were 2020, and didn't travel anywhere for two weeks after testing positive, the travel industry would collapse and then no one would be able to go on holiday unless they were stinking rich.

OP will have gone 1.5 weeks since she tested positive by the time she travels. The chances of her being infectious still are very low. The vast majority of adults are now fully vaccinated. The disease itself is little worse than a cold for most people.

So I say have a lovely holiday OP ☀️

And if everyone followed the stupid rules now, we're never going to get rid of covid. I guess that's better?

ApplesandBunions · 10/07/2022 07:36

TigerRag · 10/07/2022 07:25

And if everyone followed the stupid rules now, we're never going to get rid of covid. I guess that's better?

We're never going to get rid of covid full stop.

TigerRag · 10/07/2022 07:46

ApplesandBunions · 10/07/2022 07:36

We're never going to get rid of covid full stop.

I realise that. But people not using their brains and staying home when sick isn't helping.

floweringpoppies · 10/07/2022 08:11

Get on the plane OP! I think some people on this thread have no idea of the current rules.

floweringpoppies · 10/07/2022 08:15

LetMeInYourWindow · 09/07/2022 10:47

It would be worth testing everybody before you set off for the airport, regardless of U.K. guidelines.

From the Gov.U.K. site about travel to Spain.
You may also be subject to additional checks at the point of entry including a temperature check, visual health assessment, or testing on arrival. Passengers may also be contacted and required to undertake a COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification test - NAAT (PCR or similar) at any point up to 48 hours after their arrival in Spain.

I've currently got covid and I would pass those temperature checks at an airport!

I'm back at work tomorrow (day 6) if I have no symptoms. I don't need a negative test.

ludocris · 10/07/2022 08:22

@TigerRag watch the news love. It's never going away. It was never going to. Life has to go on.

I know that a lot of people are finding it difficult to readjust back to normal life. I get that. But if you hold this bitterness and fury against people who are further along on that journey than you, it's just going to make you miserable. Now that the balance has tipped and people are not dying or getting seriously ill in the same way they were in the early waves, it's no longer reasonable to put this huge burden of responsibility on others for your own health.

MumUndone · 10/07/2022 08:30

I would.

ApplesandBunions · 10/07/2022 08:31

I realise that. But people not using their brains and staying home when sick isn't helping.

It's not having any impact at all on whether we get rid of covid. And with a variant so transmissible so early after exposure, assumption that people who are ill, test, know they have covid and go out anyway would actually make a meaningful difference to the spread if they stopped doing that requires some critical examination.

It is also the case that we need to think about the whole impact of people isolating if we're arguing that's the moral thing to do: welfare isn't just about contracting covid, it's also about people's jobs, the economic impact of all the cancellations and insurance claims. Myself I'm of the view that fairly widespread observance of isolation has long been and gone, and that people overstate it usefulness and relevance now. But if we're having the discussion, we should have all parts of it.

Blowthemandown · 10/07/2022 09:09

@Coursha if there is any chance you could pass it on then you shouldn’t be flying. DP still tested +ve after 11 days! Even if you test negative you can still shed the virus, although lower chance of someone getting a big dose from you. Also most airlines actually say in the small print that ‘you agree not to fly with symptoms or temperature or if you have covid’.

Sloebluewalls · 10/07/2022 09:14

It’s likely you could be negative anyway 5-7 days after testing positive so I wouldn’t worry personally and fly masked. If you had only just tested positive I would suggest delaying the flight

Abraxan · 10/07/2022 09:49

Blowthemandown · 10/07/2022 09:09

@Coursha if there is any chance you could pass it on then you shouldn’t be flying. DP still tested +ve after 11 days! Even if you test negative you can still shed the virus, although lower chance of someone getting a big dose from you. Also most airlines actually say in the small print that ‘you agree not to fly with symptoms or temperature or if you have covid’.

Testing +ve after a certain number of days isn't unusual but equally it doesn't mean you are contagious as such either. Even a year ago we were told this, and could leave isolation after day 10 even if test was saying positive still. Only barrier to stopping isolation was a high temperature.

In a small number of cases some people test positive for up to 3 months. Should they not travel in all that time?

Abraxan · 10/07/2022 09:53

You wouldn’t have caught Covid in the first place if your vaccine worked 🙄

Do you know how vaccines work?
Very few vaccines prevent 100% of people catching the virus. The flu one is often only around 50% effective each year, sometimes lower. Many are in their 70s.

The point of a vaccine isn't to necessarily eradicate a virus. It's often to reduce severity and viral load of the virus, and to encourage herd immunity in some cases.

floweringpoppies · 10/07/2022 10:35

@Blowthemandown this is not how it works in the real world. After 5 days if you have no symptoms you just crack on!

LetsPlayShadowlands · 10/07/2022 10:40

Stick a mask on. Wash your hands. Go.

floweringpoppies · 10/07/2022 12:09

LetsPlayShadowlands · 10/07/2022 10:40

Stick a mask on. Wash your hands. Go.

Perfect advice!!

Gingersay · 10/07/2022 15:00

I certainly wouldn't have passed the temp check had they done one on our way home last week it was the only symptom I had. I actually got drug swabbed at security and I think it was cos I was sweating so much!! My temp lasted a good 5 or 6 days.

Blowthemandown · 10/07/2022 15:13

Abraxan · 10/07/2022 09:49

Testing +ve after a certain number of days isn't unusual but equally it doesn't mean you are contagious as such either. Even a year ago we were told this, and could leave isolation after day 10 even if test was saying positive still. Only barrier to stopping isolation was a high temperature.

In a small number of cases some people test positive for up to 3 months. Should they not travel in all that time?

Not disagreeing with you about the possibility of lower load reducing the risk but we don’t know for certain. In other countries it’s still 10 days at home. I tested positive until day 9 and partner day 12. Also, yes, I am patently aware of how vaccines work but in our house (assuredly in the real world) it does work like that and we stay home. With the current rise in cases and numbers in hospital increasing, and since you can’t prove you can’t catch it - in fact I caught it from someone asymptomatic and possibly with a low viral load - plus living with someone extremely clinically vulnerable, I wouldn’t want to risk giving it to anyone else. So I’ll carry on listening to my conscience.

PatientlyWaiting21 · 10/07/2022 15:26

bossyrossy · 09/07/2022 14:06

I tested positive last Sunday, still positive today Saturday, DH tested positive Thursday. Of course we tested, we don’t want to pass this on to friends or family or to strangers, so we will not go out until we test negative. We have had four vaccinations and still caught it. It’s not nice, we both feel groggy with flu like symptoms. We would probably be in hospital if it were not for the vaccines.

No you wouldn’t!!

PatientlyWaiting21 · 10/07/2022 15:27

Good grief, this threads infuriating. You lot are missing life, was it not enough to be locked down for almost two years you lot are still religiously testing when it is no longer required. Listen to the scientists and health professionals! Live your life, and if you don’t want to do that don’t be getting on at anyone else

Madhairday · 10/07/2022 15:37

PatientlyWaiting21 · 10/07/2022 15:26

No you wouldn’t!!

You don't know that, @PatientlyWaiting21 . I'm sitting here in a hospital room with covid and the doctor says it would have been much worse without the vaccine. I think that's true - looking at how sick people were getting back then. It's bad enough now, I'm in horrible pain.

balalake · 10/07/2022 15:39

100% not unless after today you test negative every day.

Travelling on a plane with Covid is as bad as driving after a few drinks in my opinion.

SoS505 · 10/07/2022 16:00

PatientlyWaiting21 · 10/07/2022 15:27

Good grief, this threads infuriating. You lot are missing life, was it not enough to be locked down for almost two years you lot are still religiously testing when it is no longer required. Listen to the scientists and health professionals! Live your life, and if you don’t want to do that don’t be getting on at anyone else

You do realise that the guidance is still to isolate with a positive test don’t you?

In fact Gov.U.K. Says that people with respiratory infections (covering all bases here from Covid to chest infections) should stay home and avoid contact with other people to keep others safe.

Nowhere does it say be a total twat and knowingly go out and about infecting others.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2022 16:09

You do realise that the guidance is still to isolate with a positive test don’t you?

For 5 days. The OP will be outside of that.

SherbertLemonDrop · 10/07/2022 16:28

I was floored when I had covid. Never felt so unwell in my life and I'm not vulnerable and am vaccinated. Don't do it, that would be so unfair to others.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 10/07/2022 17:44

Hope you’re feeling better OP. Go and have a wonderful time!