To think Tory party is not ready for a non-white PM

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While all this talk about Rishi goes on, I just can't see it happening. Too much of the tory party is old english and super duper white

this from an independent headline - The Conservative leadership contest is dominated by white men who've furthered inequality in various departments. The winner will be chosen by a membership who are 71 per cent male, 97 per cent white and 44 per cent aged over 65

It is not a party issue.

it is a country issue.

I can’t comment on the other parts of the UK but the general English population will never vote for a person who is brown or black or white non English heritage. My children (mixed heritage ) would never even be acceptable. Therefore I don’t see the point of them even putting themselves forward. London mayor was different as it’s a very mixed population. But he has much greater protection than any Mayor before him abd any criticism always picks up heritage, skin tone and religion first.

The guy is a weasel. Dont like him, nothing to do with his colour. He's broken the law, no idea what's going on with his tax / passport status. Just dodgy. The tories must have someone better to offer.

It’s a shame Wallace has ruled himself out. I could have stomached him.

Many racist people will be racist when it suits them

So it will suit them to say well what do you expect he/she is ….

I think this is how the majority of racist people are so they are not racist towards everyone but to those they feel are not as worthy

Priti Patel (I’m surprised she hasn’t made a statement that she is putting herself forward) will appeal to many voters as she is a good brown person family have done well, openly appreciates
how good the UK has been for her family. she isn’t too religious, not too Asian

Nonsense. Either you are racist or you are not racist. If people love Priti Patel but can't stand Lammy then maybe the colour of their skin is not the driving factor here? Maybe it is other aspects of groups of people or individuals that attracts/repels the electorate. It's easier to blame racism, "except for"..... but that's just a nonsensical argument.

The channel crossers, for example. Mostly young males, mostly muslim. Do people get angry because they have a different skin colour or because of other issues? It's easier to blame race rather than discuss the fundamental issues at play, I realise that. But that's why the Left are so unappealing to the electorate despite the tories also being worse than useless.

This - I think Sajid Javid has significantly better odds of being elected.

Read my post

Many racist people will be racist when it suits them

I have not said they are not racist they are racist when it suits them

How has he broken the law? i know about the FPN but you seem to be linking this to tax issues. I’m not aware of illegality there.
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I do agree and I think that is why he was allowed to do a speech in PMQs this week.

Whilst I am in absolutely no doubt that racism and sexism is an issue in politics and in wider society for that matter, I really do think there are more important characteristics than whether they are male and/or white to consider when it comes to the question of who should be our next prime minister.

We are in an economic mess, there is a crisis within public service, a major issue to sort out with regard to NI/Brexit and the Russian invasion of Ukraine to deal with (not to mention the wider fall out of this from fuel to world wide grain shortages). And the whole issue of climate change. I mean- I couldn’t give a fig if the best person for the job is a man or a woman, nor the colour of their skin. I don’t particularly care where they went to school or if they are personally wealthy or not. I think these things can shape their policies, of course, but that’s the important bit, surely? What do they purport to offer us (and do we believe they can deliver on what they are offering)? I care about their competency to do the job, what policy plans they have, their integrity and honesty. If the person who is best suited is a woman or man of colour- great. If it’s a white woman, great. White man? Also great.

I personally think that I currently favour Tom Tugenhadt or possibly Nadhim Zahawi. Though I’m not a Tory party member (or voter), so my thoughts don’t really count for anything!

Racists are racist all the time. But they ignore it when it suits them.

Lots of men are sexist. Misogynist even. But they marry women.

Never heard anyone say ‘he can’t be sexist! His wife is a woman!’.

I do belief many who hold racist views would still vote for someone who isn’t white

many marry/have partners that are acceptable to them while other black/brown people are not

I think Kemi Badenoch’s problem is that she seems to be running on an anti-woke, racism-isn’t-real ticket, and aside from Rupert Murdoch and a minority of racists, I’m not really sure who that is playing to.

I don’t think the majority of people in this country, Tory or otherwise, give two shits about “culture wars”, especially not in a cost of living crisis. She needs to get some more policies that appeal to people other than Piers Morgan.

Rishi Sunak didn't break the law , but from what I can gather from the internet he was able to use financial regulations regarding the status of his wife's residency in the UK. it meant that she wouldn't have to pay as much tax. That's what I understand anyway, but I'm sure there is a much longer reason and much more complicated than that. All perfectly legal.

I think the main issue for Sunak is his wealth as a barrier, it’s unfortunate and isn’t his background but from his wife and her family

I do wonder who pushed the story because he was probably a clear favourite before that

You’ve touched on something here.

As a PP mentioned it may be more palatable for the British public to have a rich anglicised Asian than a rich anglicised African. Doesn’t mean they aren’t racist though but there are different levels to racism.

Minorities are very welcome to the Conservatives when; they dislike immigrants, they aren’t Muslim or too religious, they’re grateful to the UK and ready to slate their own ethnicity and any other if they’re poor or disadvantaged.

Classism plays a huge role.

Yes this and other things mentioned is what’s turned me off him. It is a real shame

Not a Tory voter but without these negative aspects that have come to light, at least he would be a serious respectful PM and not a clown.

Look at the last election, which side prompted begging letters from the Jewish community?

What has happened to the so called left??

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He broke the law and was fined. Partying whilst peoples family members were dying. Short memories.

I despise the way the conservatives trumpet their ‘ethnic diversity’. Being a particular skin colour or racial heritage doesn’t give you a free pass to be tax dodging (Zahawi, sunak), or to co-write a book proclaiming British workers the idlest in the world (kwarteng) or to jump ship from chase manhattan with your millions a nano second before the banking crisis and proclaim your working class credentials, never taking responsibility for the terrible mess you perpetuated or acknowledging how much you profited from it (Javid) or simply to be priti Patel.

Yes, let's throw the whole country down the shitter just to stick it to trans people.
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I think it would be safe to assume that if Labour can attract so many more women to their ranks, i'd bet they know what a woman is.

Labour didn't elect a leader with 8 plus kids from 5 different women.

The removal of so many hard fought rights women have achieved, has occurred under the Tory Govt.

Also he had bought the domain name ‘Ready for Rishi’ in December so was planning the leadership challenge.

Although bringing down an PM so you can stand yourself might not sit well, I'd not think much of a possible PM if they couldn't predict that BJ would never make it to the next elections. At least it shows he capable of thinking ahead and preparing for things to come! Lol.

I acknowledged the FPN. The PP seemed to be linking the law breaking and the tax issue, which would be far more serious, if true (which it isn’t).
if you think walking into a room where people are partaking of birthday cake is “partying”, then your life is even more boring than mine.

I have to say, as a life-long Labour voter who loathes the Torys, I have nonetheless been impressed by the diversity of the potential leadership candidates.