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To limit contact with ex MIL out even though my kids adore her

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user1498596172 · 07/07/2022 06:36

This is abit long so bare with me!

I (F31) seperated from my ex partner 16 months ago. We were together 13 years, three children aged 11, 7 and 4.

My ex MIL has always been amazing with our kids, but horrible to me. She treats me like a child, gives unwarranted and unasked for advice, and generally oversteps boundaries frequently.

Since me and my ex split under horrific circumstances (I can't explain too much due to legal reasons but it's probably worse than you'd expect), but the part I can divulge is he cheated on me for the last time.

Despite his legal problems his mum stuck by him. His mental health issues were a big factor, but alot of it was his own doing. He was exceptionally abusive in the aftermath as he didn't want to leave the family home, threatened suicide alot as a way to control people around him, and is now playing victim and saying he's the victim of abuse from me, his mum and his accusor.

He didn't see the children for their own safety for about 8 months due to all this.

So my MIL really stepped up and helped me out with childcare. She was always very generous with her time, and adores my kids, but it always came at a cost of the above.

She has taken this to mean she's a coparent. She went to the school to try and get their records, she makes decisions without telling me about it, and when it was time to reintroduce the kids she took matters into her own hands to decide details. She was incredibly nasty during this time to me, accusing me of not doing what's right for the kids, but my ex really wasn't stable and all I wanted was a timetable for contact to be built up. On the second visit he slept over, and I was at work and couldn't do anything about it. She informed me (informed, not ask) about 10 minutes before.
She also feeds them alot of junk food, but tells me it's my fault they're overweight! She has them 2/3 nights a week and they come home telling me they've had McDonald's/ice cream/crisps/chocolate. When I raise it with her, she tells me I don't take them out for exercise enough and she just wants to be a nanny and do what nanny's do, which is spoil her grandkids. I literally cannot win.

She has also taken massive offence to me being in a relationship.

Now, it hasn't been perfect. We've been dating 10 months. We met not wanting a relationship, and it took a little while to establish boundaries and what we were. During this time he cheated on me, and when things started getting more serious he admitted to what he'd done so that we could go forward without secrets. He adores me, treats me very well and loves my kids despite never having wanted his own. He's 31 and I'm his first proper girlfriend as he was a bit of a whore before.

But because he cheated (and I stupidly told her because she called me when I was upset) she constantly tells me how much of a red flag he is, how we're moving too fast (we don't live together or anything, just spend alot of time together with the kids) and generally tries to get in my head about it. She seems totally unaware of the fact that her son is a walking red flag and was abusive for years, and never once told me to run from him and instead 'try to make it work and perhaps there's things I could do'.

Now I'm not suggesting I limit their time to be petty. If it were up to me, I would cut their entire family out because theyre all toxic. But I am looking for a new job where I can be less reliant on her. I think as the kids get older they'll realise that for themselves. She openly disrespects me in front of them, and I don't bite so as to not cause a scene. But it's getting harder and harder. I'm given no credit for keeping my kids heads above water by myself after their dads behaviour, nor am I respected as their mother by either of them. It was a truly horrendous time as we suffered a close bereavement, a seperation and the arrest all within three weeks of each other, and she was there for all of the abuse. I just don't understand.

Aibu?

OP posts:
user1498596172 · 07/07/2022 06:45

In the interest of being balanced, she also looks after my kids alot so I can have a social life. It's getting less and less now as I don't ask her unless it's necessary anymore, but she used to have them usually every other weekend. Now their dad is involved they tend to go there and I know she'll be upset if she doesn't have them in the week. In the beginning of mine and my boyfriend's relationship she had no problem with it, but it became a problem recently. She accused me of prioritising my relationship over my kids which simply isn't true, they were always happy to go there and if they wanted to stay home, they could.

OP posts:
HollowTalk · 07/07/2022 06:46

I was on your side until you talked about your new boyfriend. The language you use, calling him a whore, telling us that he cheated on you but was a lovely man and so on made me think that you had no boundaries whatsoever. She sounds like a nightmare but you sound as though you are walking straight into another really bad relationship.

bishbashboshhhhh · 07/07/2022 06:46

Stop using your mil for free childcare.

Stop dating someone who was a bit of a whore, he does not need to be actively meeting your dc this early on

it all sounds like a car crash tbh

SeriousAlligator · 07/07/2022 06:47

HollowTalk · 07/07/2022 06:46

I was on your side until you talked about your new boyfriend. The language you use, calling him a whore, telling us that he cheated on you but was a lovely man and so on made me think that you had no boundaries whatsoever. She sounds like a nightmare but you sound as though you are walking straight into another really bad relationship.

I was about to type something very similar. Yes your MIL sounds controlling and you'd be well to rid yourselves of her, although it won't be easy if your children do adore her.

But this new man implies you're not making good decisions and are walking into a very bad situation-and your children are involved with him too.

WeKnowFrogsGoShaLaLaLaLa · 07/07/2022 06:50

It's possible for your MIL to be both overbearing in some situations and right about the new boyfriend.

GCAcademic · 07/07/2022 06:50

HollowTalk · 07/07/2022 06:46

I was on your side until you talked about your new boyfriend. The language you use, calling him a whore, telling us that he cheated on you but was a lovely man and so on made me think that you had no boundaries whatsoever. She sounds like a nightmare but you sound as though you are walking straight into another really bad relationship.

This, with bells on.

Have some respect for yourself and your children.

Flopisfatteningbingforchristmas · 07/07/2022 06:52

HollowTalk · 07/07/2022 06:46

I was on your side until you talked about your new boyfriend. The language you use, calling him a whore, telling us that he cheated on you but was a lovely man and so on made me think that you had no boundaries whatsoever. She sounds like a nightmare but you sound as though you are walking straight into another really bad relationship.

I completely agree.

Your MIL was/is looking after your kids 2/3 nights a week and every other weekend so virtually 50:50, she thinks she is coparenting because that’s exactly what is happening.

Womencanlift · 07/07/2022 06:53

Yes your MIL sounds a pain but have you really introduced your kids to someone you have been seeing for just 10 months?

I think, like other pp’s, you have issues with boundaries and that is what needs to be worked on. Then you can both manage your MIL and also make your kids know that they are not going to see another car crash

stuntbubbles · 07/07/2022 06:54

Dump the terrible new boyfriend. Dump the terrible MIL and pay for childcare instead.

x2boys · 07/07/2022 06:54

If she's that awful why do you allow her to have your children 2/3 nights a week?

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 07/07/2022 06:54

Suggest that you reset your relationship with MIL. You need to be assertive here and remind her that you’re their parents and will be making all decisions with regard to their care. Be clear that your value her input but that must be a supporting role to you, not a lead role. Absolute red lines when it comes to her involving your ex without your say so.

I can understand her reservations with your new BF to be fair. She’ll be working through her feelings about her own son and assume she is trying to protect him (however unpalatable that is given what he’s done) and her grandchildren.

Its not the point of your post but the introduction of a BF into the picture is generally a worry, especially one that has already cheated on you. Raise your standards. The children need to be your priority. Given what’s happened, they’ll be vulnerable and will crave stability.

ChaosMoon · 07/07/2022 06:57

Yes you need to limit contact with her. You also need better boundaries with your new BF. It's far too soon for him to be seeing that much of your kids.

PPs have it right there

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 07/07/2022 06:58

*parent not parents!

x2boys · 07/07/2022 07:00

What do the children want ?
They are currently spending a lot of time with her ,and you say they adore her ,what affect will it have on them if you decide to limit their time?

hellmannsnotheinz · 07/07/2022 07:01

Oh dear, you lost me at whore.

TheLadyofShalott1 · 07/07/2022 07:05

Oh OP I do feel really sorry for you and the really shitty time that you and your DC have obviously been through. The whole thing sounds very complex, and I am not sure that anyone here (including me of course) can have enough information on who said or did what to someone else, to be able to give you a definitive answer.

All I can say for now @user1498596172 is that I think you have been very reasonable with somethings and very unreasonable with others. I know that it is probably unusual, but I wonder if it would be possible for you and your MiL to go to some sort of arbitration together, where you can both put your views and feelings of being misunderstood or even just misjudged, and work through having at least a polite and tolerant relationship to each other? This is because I think that you would be very unreasonable to just cut your DC grandmother completely out of their lives.

You may also have to gird your loins against a possible onslaught from mumsnetters who think that your new boyfriend has met and mixed with your DC far too soon. I might agree with them depending on the actual circumstances, but I doubt that there is enough time or space for you to explain all the nuances involved with your new partner.
I do hope though that you and your DC are soon able to live a far happier, and far improved life, than has been the case so far.

x2boys · 07/07/2022 07:08

And tbh I'm with the Mil about red flags regarding the new boyfriend,,why would a 31 year old ,man whose always slept around and never been in a commited relationship before suddenly ,tie himself down to a " ready made family"

TheLadyofShalott1 · 07/07/2022 07:10

An added note re my post above. When I started replying to your post @user1498596172 you had not had any replies at all!

Allelbowsandtoes · 07/07/2022 07:13

Everyone seems to be jumping on you about the new boyfriend without acknowledgement of what an absolute nightmare your MIL is.
You've been through a really difficult time and it sounds as though you had no real option other than letting her look after the kids when you had to work, but looking for a new job is a really positive move. Taking steps to stop your reliance on her will put you in a much better position to start asserting some serious boundaries with the woman, Lord knows they're needed.
She's right about the new boyfriend though - he sounds pretty horrible. Do you really want to entrust your happiness to someone with a track record of questionable morals who's never had a relationship? Not to be patronising but I suspect the abuse from ex partner has massively influenced the way you're viewing this situation and the behaviour you're allowing from him. It's worth taking a step back and really reflecting on it, maybe talk to some of your close friends about it - I'm sure they'll have a view.

And most importantly look after yourself - you're doing the best you can in very difficult circumstances, keep going!

Bluetrews25 · 07/07/2022 07:19

Concerning that you split with DH because he 'cheated on me for the last time' and you are now with someone who has cheated on you, and this is a relatively new relationship. Can you see the pattern repeat here?
By all means limit contact if you can, MIL can see them in DHs contact time.
But you will need to sort alternative childcare or stop doing things that mean you need it if there is no other option but to use MIL.

GlamorousHeifer · 07/07/2022 07:24

Dump the boyfriend, you've moved on from one waste of space to another (your poor kids)
The MIL might be overbearing but she is practically co-parenting your children (ask yourself and be honest, would your relationship with Mr Whore have even got off the ground if she wasn't having your children so regularly?)
It all sounds like a car crash at the moment and the MIL is only a small part of the problem.

HairyScaryMonster · 07/07/2022 07:31

If your ex is now seeing the children regularly, ex mil needs to be arranging visits with him not you.

NewtoHolland · 07/07/2022 07:31

I was with you until the boyfriend bit. It sound like you've been through a lot and so have the kids, letting someone new into all of your lives while you were going through so much is not great. Why are you all spending lots of time with him? The kids probably need most of the time as having you to themselves while they recover and try to make sense of all that's gone on. They need one person in their lives who is solid and they know will put them first no matter what

Your Mil has swept in when you were down and it's understandable that it's been hard to set boundaries with her.

Have you got support from your local.domestic abuse Charity? They can help with emotional support and helping build you back up after all you've gone through. This stuff might then help you work out balance with your MIL.

I'd take a break with boyfriend if you can and just focus in on you and the kids, there's nothing more important than you and them feeling safe and happy, if he's a good one he'll give you the time you need.

FeelingwearyFeeelingsmall · 07/07/2022 07:37

Your MIL sounds very unreasonable but for your D.C. sake I wouldn't change things at the moment. They need stability in their lives and given their dad's unreliability and the seemingly precarious nature of your brief, rebound relationship with a 'man whore' it sounds like your MIL will be important in providing this.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 07/07/2022 07:44

You certainly had my yanbu until the new boyfriend reveal.

Spend more time with your DC stop going from one disaster to another when it comes to your DC.