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To limit contact with ex MIL out even though my kids adore her

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user1498596172 · 07/07/2022 06:36

This is abit long so bare with me!

I (F31) seperated from my ex partner 16 months ago. We were together 13 years, three children aged 11, 7 and 4.

My ex MIL has always been amazing with our kids, but horrible to me. She treats me like a child, gives unwarranted and unasked for advice, and generally oversteps boundaries frequently.

Since me and my ex split under horrific circumstances (I can't explain too much due to legal reasons but it's probably worse than you'd expect), but the part I can divulge is he cheated on me for the last time.

Despite his legal problems his mum stuck by him. His mental health issues were a big factor, but alot of it was his own doing. He was exceptionally abusive in the aftermath as he didn't want to leave the family home, threatened suicide alot as a way to control people around him, and is now playing victim and saying he's the victim of abuse from me, his mum and his accusor.

He didn't see the children for their own safety for about 8 months due to all this.

So my MIL really stepped up and helped me out with childcare. She was always very generous with her time, and adores my kids, but it always came at a cost of the above.

She has taken this to mean she's a coparent. She went to the school to try and get their records, she makes decisions without telling me about it, and when it was time to reintroduce the kids she took matters into her own hands to decide details. She was incredibly nasty during this time to me, accusing me of not doing what's right for the kids, but my ex really wasn't stable and all I wanted was a timetable for contact to be built up. On the second visit he slept over, and I was at work and couldn't do anything about it. She informed me (informed, not ask) about 10 minutes before.
She also feeds them alot of junk food, but tells me it's my fault they're overweight! She has them 2/3 nights a week and they come home telling me they've had McDonald's/ice cream/crisps/chocolate. When I raise it with her, she tells me I don't take them out for exercise enough and she just wants to be a nanny and do what nanny's do, which is spoil her grandkids. I literally cannot win.

She has also taken massive offence to me being in a relationship.

Now, it hasn't been perfect. We've been dating 10 months. We met not wanting a relationship, and it took a little while to establish boundaries and what we were. During this time he cheated on me, and when things started getting more serious he admitted to what he'd done so that we could go forward without secrets. He adores me, treats me very well and loves my kids despite never having wanted his own. He's 31 and I'm his first proper girlfriend as he was a bit of a whore before.

But because he cheated (and I stupidly told her because she called me when I was upset) she constantly tells me how much of a red flag he is, how we're moving too fast (we don't live together or anything, just spend alot of time together with the kids) and generally tries to get in my head about it. She seems totally unaware of the fact that her son is a walking red flag and was abusive for years, and never once told me to run from him and instead 'try to make it work and perhaps there's things I could do'.

Now I'm not suggesting I limit their time to be petty. If it were up to me, I would cut their entire family out because theyre all toxic. But I am looking for a new job where I can be less reliant on her. I think as the kids get older they'll realise that for themselves. She openly disrespects me in front of them, and I don't bite so as to not cause a scene. But it's getting harder and harder. I'm given no credit for keeping my kids heads above water by myself after their dads behaviour, nor am I respected as their mother by either of them. It was a truly horrendous time as we suffered a close bereavement, a seperation and the arrest all within three weeks of each other, and she was there for all of the abuse. I just don't understand.

Aibu?

OP posts:
Eatingchips · 07/07/2022 09:56

Natty13 · 07/07/2022 09:51

She openly disrespects me in front of them, and I don't bite so as to not cause a scene

What you are teaching your kids is that when people treat you badly you have to grin and bear it. They should be learning that when people are bad to you, you don't tolerate it no matter who they are. This is exactly why so many people have poor boundaries and poor mental health in adulthood because their parents have not given them any kind of good example on how to deal with difficult people.

Im sorry, I do sympathise and it must be really difficult but you need to think what you are showing your kids and how you'd want them to behave as adults if they had a really nasty colleague, friend or partner. Would you want them to soak it up and be miserable/anxious?

This is all very well and good but the first rule of psychology is that you cannot change other people. Those of us with toxic families can appreciate this more than most and so you are always trying to find ways to manage the ways that inter generational trauma comes down into your children. There has already been plenty of that trauma on the kids from their father and it might be the case that MIL is just going to bring more in the long run.

That MIL is very controlling and domineering and one possible outcome is that standing up to her won’t make this all come right. We simply cannot control other people and so sometimes we need to take the really bad ones out of our life. Only time will tell for OP.

Keepitrealnomists · 07/07/2022 09:57

What an absolute shit show! Where do I start.........

Eatingchips · 07/07/2022 09:57

Oops sorry Natty I quoted the wrong post. I agree with what you have written.

TiddleyWink · 07/07/2022 10:20

Ditch the icky boyfriend, focus on parenting your own children yourself and back off from her if you don’t like her. You can’t have her effectively having close to 50/50 custody to facilitate you dating and socialising and then complain that she acts like a co parent. You’re having your cake and eating it. If you want to be their only parent with the rights and privileges that entails then stop sending them off to be looked after by her all the time.

Why on earth are you entrusting her with their care for so much time if she feeds them so much junk food that they are overweight and will probably have lifelong health consequences? Sorry to be blunt but why are you prioritising dating over parenting?

You do realise if you try and back off from her she may well have a legal claim to access because of how much of a role she has in their upbringing currently?

The whole situation sounds like a car crash.

Philisophigal · 07/07/2022 10:27

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AnneLovesGilbert · 07/07/2022 10:31

She’s awful but good enough to have your kids nearly half the week? You’ve given her a lot of power and influence while moaning about her - another in a series of poor decisions. I doubt you’ve even be with your “whore” of a new bloke if you didn’t have her giving you so much childcare.

Herejustforthisone · 07/07/2022 10:34

What an unbelievable mess.

The new, cheating ‘whore’ boyfriend. WTF are you thinking after your previous relationship?

Eatingchips · 07/07/2022 10:39

I think this is harsh. We all need to rely on other people sometimes and the OP probably relies on her MIL because she needs too for childcare. Unless the OP is Kim Kardashian chances are she has financial constraints in this situation too. Equally speaking from experience when you come out of a really traumatic situation it disorients you and you are not in the best place to make decisions and so things go wrong. We are all only humans here trying our best. The OP needs support and this thread is pretty confronting.

Hoppinggreen · 07/07/2022 10:44

Sounds like it’s the DC who need support and The MIL is the one providing it

PeekAtYou · 07/07/2022 10:56

Your MIL sounds nasty but she's right about your new bf. Considering past trauma, it is rushing for the kids to be hanging out with him this early and the cheating admission is a tease of your boundaries imo. You've shown him that you allow cheating.

It is a good idea to stop relying on MIL so much (she has them nearly 50% of the time !) I can see why boundaries got blurred when she was having them so much but you can fix this.

DarkShade · 07/07/2022 10:59

2/3 times a week to your 4/5 nights a week is the arrangement that many co-parents have, so no wonder she feels that she is a parent too.

The boyfriend sounds a mess, you should not introduce kids so early.

lookluv · 07/07/2022 11:07

Sounds like she is the one with consistent parenting of your children.

Agree the food is not ideal but sounds like some of her "unwarranted" advice may actually be needed.

You need to re focus your priorities and they should be your children - she is not far off 50:50 care if she is doing 3 days per week.

Gymnopedie · 07/07/2022 11:14

OP you've been given so much good advice already and I'm not going to repeat it.

But He adores me, treats me very well and loves my kids despite never having wanted his own. Please read up on love bombing (this and others). You're stepping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Don't expose your children to it.

Harridance · 07/07/2022 11:16

He doesn't adore you if he slept with someone else whilst you were casually dating

SteamingHind · 07/07/2022 11:27

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Dita73 · 07/07/2022 11:42

You want to have your cake and eat it. First thing you need to do is get rid of your new bloke then put your kids first and think about what they need and what’s best for them

Carwo · 07/07/2022 11:49

Please do the freedom program. Dump the ‘whore boyfriend’. Spend some time just you and your children. If not make sure you’re on birth control.

x2boys · 07/07/2022 12:03

Don't think the Op,s coming back......

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