Does anybody actually want BJ as PM?

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AIBU to think there isn't a single person out there who supports him.

Genuinely curious to see if I am wrong.

YANBU - he is a total dickhead and must go
YABU - he should stay

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Yup! Agreed....

People are entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts.

Unfortunately people that never liked him to begin with can’t see the positives of what he achieved with Brexit, vaccines, minimal lockdowns and Ukraine. NHS doesn’t need anymore money, just needs to lose the inefficiencies.

Sorry what are the positives with Brexit remind me ?
Boris has fuck all to do with the vaccine roll out. His response to Covid in both Feb/March 2020 and in Dec 2020 was ineffectual, slow and counterproductive. If you said I love having a Tory govermemt because I am rightleaning and don't believe in a big welfare state at least if would be honest.

@caringcarer so sexually assaulting people is "having a private life" in your part of the country. Jesus wept!

I have never liked him and have never voted for him.

But tbh I don’t think we can have any idea how any government would have done in COVID. COVID was so unprecedented that it’s impossible to have any idea who would have done any better, even if what other parties had done did things differently.

Every country in the world did things in their own way, and not one country came through unscathed.

WRT people wanting to stay and watch for a while, I think that they’re failing to see what state we’re in at the moment. We currently don’t have a functional government. If we encountered any kind of crisis, terrorist attack for instance we would have serious problems.

And looking at BJ in PMQ’s yesterday and then reading the commons statement and his actions yesterday I actually think it’s gone beyond his just being a narcissist and think he’s having a mental breakdown. There are countries with notable reputations where their leaders have behaved similarly with dangerous implications. He needs removing now. This is no longer about his ego. He’s actually crossed the line into derangement here and this is not what we need in a leader during the worst financial crisis in decades.

Our only hope is that he calls a snap election at this point, because he’s not going to step down. And changing the law to make it happen has long term implications of its own.

It’s a thread that asked for opinions though. What’s the point of answering this or any other thread about where only one side is actually allowed to express a preference?

His contract is up for renewal at the next General Election, even if he doesn’t go now. We know what’s happening with fuel, inflation etc and the reasons for it so it’s going to be tough times whoever is in. What I genuinely don’t want is someone who has no ideas and just twiddles the bits that don’t matter whilst blaming this lot for the state of play.

I want him to stay and continue in his apparent mission to make the Tory party completely unelectable.

Completely agree.

Remember when we all thought George W 'don't misunderestimate me' Bush was dreadful only to then get Trump?

Things can always be worse and as much as I'm no fan of BJ I can't see who would be preferable. At least BJ won't be pushed about which is one positive thing you can say for him. If he goes we may end up with Jeremy Hunt [shudder] and then that would make it even more likely we would end up with Labour in after a GE next year - Starmer and woke Labour who don't know what a woman is would be truly dreadful for women's rights in the UK.

Are you high? He has committed a criminal act ffs.

I just don't understand people who quote the vaccine roll out as some kind of laudable achievement because its the one thing they didn't balls up - we have incredible research scientists who went above and beyond, we have the infrastructure and huge amounts of volunteers, and a mostly willing population - as a first world country a decent vaccine roll out should be the least we expect, a given - not an achievement. Have our expectations really slipped so low?

I actually think it’s gone beyond his just being a narcissist and think he’s having a mental breakdown. There are countries with notable reputations where their leaders have behaved similarly with dangerous implications. He needs removing now. This is no longer about his ego. He’s actually crossed the line into derangement here and this is not what we need in a leader during the worst financial crisis in decades.

He's always been deluded but I agree that it seems to be worsening.
His reaction to the drubbing he took in the no confidence seems to have been to take a fat couple of lines of cocaine.

They have to get rid of him.

I live in Surrey and we have a Liberal Democrat MP and overwhelmingly voted Remain, so not great BJ fans here.

Could someone explain his popularity ( particularly with women!) because I have never got it. I see a dishevelled,overweight lump of a man who waffles on as though he were lecturing in a private school to a class of bored schoolboys. About as sexually attractive as cold porridge. Perhaps that explains it?

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With a combination of Boris unravelling in clear site with rising poverty, strikes and possible public protests I predict that Labour may have some chance in the GE. We just need to replace Starmer with someone more electable.

I think it's called clutching at straws. I remember when Johnson was wandering round shaking people's hands and seemingly insouciant about Covid until he got it himself, was serious ill and realised people were dying at an extremely alarming rate. The complete balls up of track and trace, which cost tens of billions, is enough to cancel any success of the vaccination programme, which incidentally many EU countries soon caught up with.

I don't want Johnson to stay. I think he's done a good job in some areas and might be the best of a bad bunch but we cannot have a PM who repeatedly lies. He's been sacked for lying before.

But I've just read that Suella Braverman would stand for the leadership. God help us.

I actually know Johnson slightly in real life. My DH has been good friends with one of his siblings since university. I've met Boris - Al as the family call him - at weddings and parties. He's very charming but comes across as very reserved. The only person I think he is really close to is his sister Rachel. I wonder if things might have worked out differently if he was still with Marina. She is a clever and astute woman who I can't imagine would have tolerated parties in Downing St. I've met Carrie and she seems perfectly nice but I don't quite get the relationship. He doesn't seem like the same person now.

I do think he had a very damaged childhood and that has influenced his personality and way of behaving.

Eherrera, his childhood was 'damaged' do I give him a free pass when we have 4.5 million children living in poverty in the UK?

I like him

id like him to stay

he gets the important stuff done that I care about that are achievable

mist people can’t think critically and just jump on media bandwagon

it’ll be a nightmare if he goes

Not a Boris supporter, but it's this sort of attitude that leads to people being shocked when the Conservatives win an election.

Minitheminx I'm not defending him and I'm sorry if it came across that way. It was just an observation. I think he should have gone months ago.

Everyone who voted for him has done this. I don't want to hear any of the "I voted for my local MP" because a Tory vote at the last election was a vote for Boris.

Anyone on here saying they want him
Gone who voted Tory - this is 100% your doing.

He's probably the most popular Tory PM I can remember.

I assume that you are not old enough to remember Thatcher? She was popular, she won three elections although by 1990 you had to wonder how she did it, because by then, no one would admit to voting for her.

do you really think that it’s because of Boris we are helping Ukraine? Ipany British government would have done that…

The positives of what he has achieved with brexit? The country is going down the shitter at a rate of knots. Please cheer me up with some positives of brexit!

Saltwaterandsuncream I voted for my local Tory MP. You can't tell me not to say that. I voted for him because he's proven to be a good constituency MP and in my view was the best candidate from those on offer. That's how the democratic process works.

I've never voted for Johnson as I don't live in his constituency. Neither am I a member of the Tory party so didn't vote for him as leader. Personally I'm amazed that he ever became party leader as I don't think he is suitable for high office. I think Keir Starmer is.

The person responsible for Boris Johnson's failings is Boris Johnson. Under your analogy anyone who voted Labour under Tony Blair was responsible for taking us into war in Iraq, or anyone who voted Tory under Cameron responsible for causing the referendum which led to Brexit.

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