To only just realise it was Peter Andre in the wrong not Katie P!

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This is a random thread..if you arent interested in Katie and Peter please dont bother reading...
Just had a binge watch of old episodes of Americas Next top model on youtube and it showed me Katie and Peter stateside - their opd documentary..I used to watch it and love them as a couple together. Was gutted when they split but like everyone else at the time I remember thinking how awful Katie was and how she was in the wrong during that infamous massive row they had in that shop in LA.
It pops back up and so I watch it again, near in mind this is after years of me seeing ir. And cant believe it! Its like a brand new argument - completely saw this in a different way.
Pete was the onein the wrong, not Katie. In fact he was awful, actually abusive? Swearing at her calling her a f*king b**ch, "a cow", "you think youre gonna get away with it?"
Bleeding hell, if this isnt abusive I dont know what is! Im more in shock because I remember all the stick KP got, the hate campaign and the "team Pete" . He deserves a medal and all that bollocks.
It just doesnt make sense. How can anyone see it for what itnwas? In fact watching it again, KP hardly spoke..it was all Pete winding her uo, qlmost goading her and then blasting her when she bit back at him..Im just really shocked I guess....😶 makes you wonder how things can get so easily misrepresented.
What does everyone think?

does no one seem to care that KP has a conviction for harrassment of another woman
PPs do care, everyone has said she has gone off the rails and is a mess right now. Don't doubt that she sent those horrible texts when drunk . She's responsible for her bad choices and criminal behaviour now.

But the thread is about how Peter Andre was abusive towards her - in plain sight - during their reality show and not many people realised it or picked up on it at the time when it's so obvious and hard to watch now.

No one pulled him up on it and he has never apologised publicly to Katie for how badly he treated her. 5 years (4 married) of that level of domestic abuse putting her down constantly will have taken a toll.

I am not a Katie fan at all but I do feel sorry for her and exasperated at the continual bad decisions she makes

She doesn't drink. It's the coke addiction that has cost her a lot in her life. Including her kids.

What about what she did to him? She was really abusive throughout the relationship. And has been in every other relationship since...........

She does drink. She was convicted of drink driving and has twice lost her licence because of it. She was found in a crashed car, twice, over the limit. She says she doesn’t drink. She does. She also does drugs. She is a mess and especially mixing it all with painkillers and anaesthetics for her surgeries she is on a very dangerous path

Sorry that was a typo from me, meant to write doesn't drink much, it is mainly the coke that she does these days. She is always off her head on coke. You can see it on her Instagram all the time.

This.

We obviously only see what is edited, most of us don’t know these people in real life but what I do hope is for Katie to find some kind of peace, eventually meet someone who will love her for her and she can live her life out (hopefully), away from the public eye and to realise that her sexuality and the way she looks/dresses does not make her who she is, that she is more than that
From @RedorangeyellowBLACK In spades.

@ItsSnowJokes if ‘not drinking a lot ’ results in two driving bans, what will happen when she really canes it? Obviously none of us on this thread know her, we only know what is reported in the tabloids. She could be downing several bottles of gin a night for all we know. I do think it’s clear that she has substance and alcohol problems but I imagine she’s self medicating because she’s a mess mentally/emotionally. She has always appeared extremely troubled to me, even in the early days.

I do think the relationship was toxic and probably abuse from both sides based on their characters etc.

But I don't think we can blame PA for KP current MH addictions and difficulties. She was like this before they met.

There is no denying since the split things have gone from bad to worse and the relationship may have had a part to play in this.

But KP is responsible for her own actions just as PA is responsibly for his.

i find it pretty awful that Peter adopted harvey and then when they split up stopped seeing him. Why adopt a child if you only want a relationship with him when with his mother

He didn't adopt him and it didn't seem like it was his choice not to continue seeing him at the time

He had a career in the 90s hence why he was on I'm a Celeb. Now he is appearing in the west end. So you can't say he made his career from divorcing KP.

What was his 90s career? I'm pretty sure he was famous for 1 song and getting his abs out. He would be about as successful as Chesney Hawkes (ie not particularly) if he hadn't got together with Katie Price

He was a one hit wonder from the 90s who piggybacked on KP’s fame and that’s the literal only reason any of us know who he is now. Mysterious Girl wasn’t even a good song and if he hadn’t met KP he would have been one of the obscure artists in a never mind the buzzcocks line up parade. He was a nobody before he met her.

I feel sorry for her, most if not all of her issues stem from choosing the wrong partner in a desperate bid to be loved/wanted.

Funnily enough the UK isn't the only place in the world and even I know his music did better in Australia than over here and mysterious girl certainly wasn't the kind of music I listened to as a teen

My ex behaves exactly like this, yet SS think he's fine to have access.

I’m not a Peter fan I don’t like him

Peter wasn’t an unknown but he was uncool and a bit of a joke. I gather he had mental health issues depression and eating disorder so he went off the scene as a combination of this. Similar happened to Craig -David after Bo selecta
Peter has said before he was good with his money and had invested it. I was a teen in the 90’s - I remember him very well.

He then wanted a come back so he got on I’m a celeb as a Tv personality but with the intention of reviving his music. His music was still not very cool and quite awful but the Romance was very lucrative so they both ended up down a path that clearly made them both very unhappy. You can see from the documentary that Pete was always trying to keep his music going and she would put him down about it knowing it was a weakness. He was pulling her down as well about her looks and behaviour. I can’t imagine that the Tv show helped either of them or made them happy. Katie wanted a stable family life and a dad for Harvey. It was doomed to fail as it wasn’t a fairytale romance

Pete has managed to find a career in musicals and TV presenting so has a steady income as no one wants to buy his new music (but fans will go see 90’s revival music) and he’s had subtle surgery to look good for his age and he’s kept himself in shape. He has a respectable wife and made friends in TV circles so he’s doing ok.

KP can’t sing and has tried her hand at lots of things including ghost written books and clothes but really her only venture that works for her and earns money is exposing her life all over TV and in tell all memoirs (and now only fans). I don’t know whether this is laziness or bad management, someone who was so lucrative in their clothing and perfume lines shouldn’t really have gone bust so early on but this is in part due to all the bad exposure she gets and bad business and personal decisions. She struggles to be taken seriously as she’s seen as such a car crash, it makes good trash TV material but she has less options as she’s now an actual criminal. Personally I think she tried to do too much too fast, she had bad advice to keep setting up companies and should have just focused on one or 2 areas.

She now mainly only has fans who feel sorry for her and this is not a good fan base. No one should be getting 4 concurrent facelifts by the age of 41, and someone who built a career on modelling is going to struggle to keep that going the more she keeps messing with her face and body which is why she is now having to do really low budget jobs to keep going (currently collaborating on only fans with someone from love island)

she needs better management and to get away from her awful boyfriend but I don’t think that’s what she wants to do

It is speculation but it’s more serious, the children witnessed something awful and that’s why access was stopped. There is enough speculation online and info to show a serious police investigation that went on and during this time, access was stopped likely as she went back to her partner after the incidents. I would expect she has been given opportunities to make other choices

He has always struck me as someone with the rage simmering just beneath the surface. It's the over the top 'niceness' that sometimes cracks to reveal something dark underneath. It doesn't surprise me that he married a woman young enough to be his daughter. Controllable.

I’ve also wondered if she may be on the autism spectrum, I’ve worked with a few young women who are that present quite similarly in many ways.

I’ve also always quite liked her, she’s funny and sweet, but clearly isn’t able to function very well and doesn’t understand healthy relationships.

He said the same about natural birth, which is unfair as KP’s doctor explained on the show Harvey was a big baby and his birth damaged her meaning it was safer to have sections with Junior and Princess.

He wanted to but Dwight York said no, which is ironic given he wanted nothing to do with him.

Sorry that was meant to quote the post about breast feeding!

I find it odd the friendship/relationship he has with her ex kieron (the younger 2 kids dad.) I get siblings should have relationships and the parents should be civil, but it's like they've forged a "us poor exs of KP" fanclub, where they are "amazing" dad's and she's the villain. Forgetting that Pete treated her like shit and kieron cheated on her repeatedly with other women, two of whom were her best mates!

Everywhere I've read about KP is she has shared access with her kids. Where is this 2 hour supervised àccess she is supposed to have that's only on mumsnet?

How the hell has this thread been allowed to stand?

Oh yes! Because it's a man everyone is slagging off.

And Katie Price is a good mum? Don't make me laugh - she is an utter disgrace. Oh, and while we're at it, let's forget to mention the numerous driving convictions she's got, not least for driving at twice the legal limit for alcohol and drugs, whilst already banned. And that's just for the time she's got caught. She is alleged to have been driving on the back roads around her Mucky Mansion all along.s

don't forget her revenge porn claim re against Alex Reid (and maybe also data protection - as she was holding personal data- a video- and she allowed it to be revealed), she was liable for misuse of private information too and harrassment.