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To wonder why Covid is so rampant atm?

269 replies

Summerdayzhaze · 27/06/2022 14:07

As title really, I know so many people that have it at the moment and cases are really high here, which is odd as we've had nothing but glorious sunshine here for the last couple of months really.

I thought it was a bit more dormant in the summer, especially if people are outside more in terms of bars/ restaurants etc which they certainly have been here due to the weather. Is it because the children haven't broken up yet I wonder?

Are cases high in your area atm?

OP posts:
Provenceinthesummer · 27/06/2022 18:09

I have covid, it’s ripping through our area. It’s not as severe as delta although I am not feeling great. Forgotten how horrible the brain fog is.

but it is for most of us like a cold or flu, and many millions spend weeks in bed with flu and no one bats an eyelid.
felt odd sending dd into school as instructed by the school, and told not to test her, as long as she is well enough she should be back 😳

so that’s why the numbers are rocketing because it is futile making people take precautions when hundreds of thousands are dancing at festivals and hugging at weddings. Pointless testing as most of the LFTs won’t show a positive result until day 5 and by then it’s too late.

If we start with restrictions people won’t follow them anyway, and the cost to mental health/suicide rates could be worse than covid in the medium term.

We should enjoy the summer whilst we can. Stay at home if you can afford to, if you are positive and if you are seriously ECV meet up more outside during waves and take care of yourself

Aposterhasnoname · 27/06/2022 18:11

JuneJubilee · 27/06/2022 17:54

Yes all the poor underprivileged people having to take flights, go to festivals, concerts & parties...

Lol, you do realise that concerts, festivals and airports all have staff, usually on very low wages right?

ApplesandBunions · 27/06/2022 18:12

Every time you get Covid, you roll the dice about your future. If you can live without working and are confident about either state benefits or supporting yourself then good for you, if you can't then it is a lottery

Well yes, it is a lottery. And?

IcedOatLatte · 27/06/2022 18:15

TroysMammy · 27/06/2022 17:38

Because my sister, despite having it twice says it's just a cold. My niece called in after school and when my sister picked her up the first thing she said to her was "how's your throat now?" Ffs.

She must get around some if she's responsible for more than 1 in 40 people having covid

Colds and sore throat have gone away

Summerwhereareyou · 27/06/2022 18:16

Yes and I've just had it.
Loads of people at work came down with it and guidance wasn't clear or helpful at all.
I think someone came in still infectious and took us out.
None gets Tests anymore and texhjnc

NeedAHoliday2021 · 27/06/2022 18:16

I went to a gig with 75k people on Friday so I know I’ve increased my risk but today dh found out his ceo tested positive Saturday and he spent 3 hours with her Thursday so who knows if we get it where it came from of the two. The more we mix the more it spreads. Dc have had it twice but mildly, dh once but mildly and me once and it completely floored me. I’m a fairly fit, gym-going 40 year old. My 96 year old grandmother barely had a snuffle with it.

Mamanchen · 27/06/2022 18:57

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 17:45

Every time you get Covid, you roll the dice about your future. If you can live without working and are confident about either state benefits or supporting yourself then good for you, if you can't then it is a lottery.

I get the irony that it is the poorest who can't afford to test, may not know and therefore might get more chronically ill, because Long Covid is not related to how mild the initial illness is, although it is less prevalent amongst the vaccinated.

Life contains risks. I lost a year of secondary school because of post-viral complications. This was long before covid. Nobody blamed me or other people for catching or passing on a virus.

Getting into a car, eating chicken, playing sports, many things we do every day have risks. We do them anyway. Most people want a life of good things with risk, not a life of doing nothing and staying safe.

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 19:50

That's just life. You could get in a car crash everytime you leave the house, could slip on the stairs and break your back, get a cut and get sepsis etc. The whole of life is a what if lottery, this is not some unique thing for covid, life is full of risks but you still have to live it

Covid is far far more prevalent than flu, and Long Covid is more prevalent than post-viral flu complications, I don't know anyone who is off long-term sick at my work with flu issues or indeed in the past few years, but I know several people off with ongoing Covid issues.

This is not the same risk as a car accident or sepsis, because more than a million people have life-changing chronic illnesses in a very short space of time, and the more times you get Covid, and the more the variants change, the more likely this is to happen to you and or your children.

We did not know the long-term consequences of polio years ago, now we do, I'm not crazy about having repeated bouts of a Covid type illness. I've had flu twice in 50 years, my kids have had Covid twice in six months.

Basically you don't think it will happen to you, or your kids. And you are right, that's how we drive, that's how we take other risks- but the risk of Covid is greater than many people on this thread think. I didn't think I'd be affected like I am, but I was and it's life-changing, even Omicron. Sorry if that isn't what people want to hear!

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 19:54

It hasn't altered how we live, by the way, me and my kids go out, socialize, eat out, we don't wear masks all the time, but we aren't complacent or in denial about the long-term effects of repeated Covid infections on the population, even at the basic level of not having enough of the workforce fit at any one time, let alone the effects on individual families. Rampant Covid is really very bad news at this stage.

TheKeatingFive · 27/06/2022 19:55

because more than a million people have life-changing chronic illnesses in a very short space of time

The data currently doesn't distinguish between life changing chronic issues and some less impactful post viral effects. So no, this isn't accurate.

SherbertLemonDrop · 27/06/2022 19:58

My 2 siblings, nieces, nephew and 3 work colleagues have covid currently cases are high in my area. God knows how I haven't had it. Maybe I passed it to all of them!

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 19:58

Even less chronic post-viral effects can mean a few weeks off work, that's people like GPs out of the workplace. Our GP surgery closed two months ago due to Covid, I expect it will in subsequent waves. We are also noticing that people who seemed fine initially with Covid are not, and that those who have repeated Covid infections are at greater risk (on everything from death, hospitalization and long covid), so it isn't possible at this time point to know the effects of repeated Covid infections over several years which might well be the future, we don't know!

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 20:00

Basically you don't think it will happen to you, or your kids.

It might, but so might lots of other things, but I'm not going to organise my life around that risk.

I think you need to accept that people assess risk differently. That doesn't mean they're not informed of the facts. They just may not interpret them in the same way as you do.

Sorry if that isn't what people want to hear!

I'm sorry that you've had a bad experience, but why would do you think people place so much importance on your comments?

ApplesandBunions · 27/06/2022 20:00

Which brings us back to the what of it point.

I'd rather not have repeated covid infections either, haven't entirely got over the first yet and would be counted as a long covid sufferer in the (ridiculous) ONS million plus people headline figure. But nobody has yet been able to provide any evidence of how this can be viably avoided, and some of the things people cite as a reason for high cases now demonstrably failed to prevent the last Omicron wave.

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 20:01

Um, this is a website full of comments?!

SuperTea · 27/06/2022 20:04

We've gone back to "normal" with a vengeance.

After years of being really quite cautious, I was at a party last weekend. Dark crowded room, lots of close dancing and hugging. Of the 7 friends I mostly hung out with, 4 of us are positive now. The photos of us all with our arms round each other are embarrassing, until you remember we weren't supposed to be taking any precautions any more.

TheKeatingFive · 27/06/2022 20:06

Even less chronic post-viral effects can mean a few weeks off work

They may or may not do. They include everything, right down to blocked noses and sniffles.

so it isn't possible at this time point to know the effects of repeated Covid infections over several years which might well be the future, we don't know!

All kinds of illnesses can potentially weaken us long term. We aren't guaranteed anything health wise in this life. I'm happy to take the risk rather than curtail my life any further.

ShirleyPhallus · 27/06/2022 20:10

I can’t believe all the people saying that it’s absolutely fine for someone with a heavy cough to go to the cinema. No it’s not, it’s bloody annoying to be sat in the cinema as someone coughing away, let alone sneezing / nose blowing / chomping away at popcorn and crisps.

Just stay at home until your cough has gone, no need to ruin the experience for everyone else.

(and if you’re a loud chomper, stay at home or bring soft foods such as candy floss only)

kitcat15 · 27/06/2022 20:21

Pinklimey · 27/06/2022 15:43

If you have a hospital appointment, you can't pretend you don't have it. They will test you and find out, @CaptainMyCaptain

Hospitals don’t test you for covid at outpatient appointments…..they don’t take temperatures….or ask the screening questions anymore….that’s all finished with

Summerwhereareyou · 27/06/2022 20:22

Province?

Day 5 of infectious?

My + showed fhe day after my symptoms came on and as if kicked in the faint line went dark pretty quickly.

Summerwhereareyou · 27/06/2022 20:22

Neither me nor anyone in my family had a temperature at all.

ApplesandBunions · 27/06/2022 20:23

ShirleyPhallus · 27/06/2022 20:10

I can’t believe all the people saying that it’s absolutely fine for someone with a heavy cough to go to the cinema. No it’s not, it’s bloody annoying to be sat in the cinema as someone coughing away, let alone sneezing / nose blowing / chomping away at popcorn and crisps.

Just stay at home until your cough has gone, no need to ruin the experience for everyone else.

(and if you’re a loud chomper, stay at home or bring soft foods such as candy floss only)

No, you're all the way in the wrong here. There aren't two legitimate opinions on this. Several posters on this thread have explained how their experience of cancer treatment and various chronic diseases lead them to cough a lot, and you don't get to tell them to stay out of the cinema forever because it inconveniences you.

NewNamePrivacyneeded · 27/06/2022 20:25

We are living with it now. Vaccination programme worked since the numbers dying or in hospital fell massively.

The odd person gets it now not the huge number of cases as in January etc. Winter may bring an upsurge. The only people I know that have had it badly recently were unvaccinated.

DizzyWhoreI8O4 · 27/06/2022 21:04

ShirleyPhallus · 27/06/2022 20:10

I can’t believe all the people saying that it’s absolutely fine for someone with a heavy cough to go to the cinema. No it’s not, it’s bloody annoying to be sat in the cinema as someone coughing away, let alone sneezing / nose blowing / chomping away at popcorn and crisps.

Just stay at home until your cough has gone, no need to ruin the experience for everyone else.

(and if you’re a loud chomper, stay at home or bring soft foods such as candy floss only)

See, this gets right on my tit ends.

All manner of illnesses can cause a cough. Not all of them are infectious. Some of them are chronic and won't ever get better.

Are you saying those with chronic illnesses should stay at home so as not to cause inconvenience to others? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.

DizzyWhoreI8O4 · 27/06/2022 21:06

As someone with a chronic illness it's jolly nice to be told I (and millions like me) should be hiding away so the 'normal' people don't have to be bothered by me.

As I said upthread, it's like masks all over again, with the 'If you can't wear one stay at home' bollocks people on here were so fond of spouting.