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To wonder why Covid is so rampant atm?

269 replies

Summerdayzhaze · 27/06/2022 14:07

As title really, I know so many people that have it at the moment and cases are really high here, which is odd as we've had nothing but glorious sunshine here for the last couple of months really.

I thought it was a bit more dormant in the summer, especially if people are outside more in terms of bars/ restaurants etc which they certainly have been here due to the weather. Is it because the children haven't broken up yet I wonder?

Are cases high in your area atm?

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Villagetoraiseachild · 27/06/2022 17:37

Have had all vaccines and am down with it now, first time. .in spite of a fairly careful life as really wanted to avoid as far as possible into the strains becoming weaker. The only two situations I could have caught it in had open doors because of the hot summer weather. Based on dates and the speedier development of the new variants am pretty sure i got it at a spiritualist group. The guy sitting next to me was dry coughing throughout the session and then got up to give a healing to an elderly woman. The irony is not lost. Am finding it pretty grim tbh, far worse than a cold. I don't wish to rain on anyone's parade but I really don't want this again, so will be back to masks once Im fit enough to go out and in enclosed spaces. I dint think there is any accurate statistic out there as to cases, people aren't testing and prob not reporting. Only accurate stats are hospital admins and deaths, tho they take time to catch up. Please dont react with any mean comments to my experience, life's hard enough right now. I hope everyone who has it gets well very soon.

TroysMammy · 27/06/2022 17:38

Because my sister, despite having it twice says it's just a cold. My niece called in after school and when my sister picked her up the first thing she said to her was "how's your throat now?" Ffs.

XenoBitch · 27/06/2022 17:39

I am wondering why the word 'selfish' is still so rampant.
Covid is endemic now. We can't be on high alert forever.

Aishah231 · 27/06/2022 17:39

SofiaSoFar · 27/06/2022 17:04

Same with car seatbelts.

People still get killed in car crashes, so makes you wonder if they do anything...

But there have been studies into deaths with and without car seatbelts. We're still relying on data relating to deaths with (not of) COVID to determine vaccine and lockdown effectiveness. That really means that no one knows and no one it seems is trying to find out. 5 million people in the UK didn't have the vaccine why not study their reinfection rate v other vacinnated people.

Thepowerofthelook · 27/06/2022 17:41

Lots of reasons as people have said. Lots of people got together for the jubilee, didn't test or didn't isolate when they got symptoms and have gone about their daily life. Plus immunity from vaccination will be reducing in a large part of the population.
Dc3 came home devastated on Friday from school his teacher said she had covid and wasn't wearing a mask. Dc3 sibling is ecv and so dc3 is paranoid he'll pass get it and pass it on. The teacher didn't do anything wrong (is following policy) however how many people could that one secondary school teacher potentially infect (and then how many will those people infect)? It soon spreads as we've seen before. But we don't have any thing mitigating the spread at the moment.

winemedown · 27/06/2022 17:42

I really don't know what the solution is. We have an outbreak on three of the wards I work on, less than two weeks after we as a hospital stopped compulsory mask wearing for staff. I put mine back on today. We're obviously the reason why patients are getting it now, as they have limited leave and few visitors. Most visitors still lateral flow. Staff are supposed to LFT weekly but that doesn't seem to be often enough. One of the wards has started testing staff mid shift and it's shocking how many asymptomatic people are being sent home.

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 17:43

Thepowerofthelook · 27/06/2022 17:41

Lots of reasons as people have said. Lots of people got together for the jubilee, didn't test or didn't isolate when they got symptoms and have gone about their daily life. Plus immunity from vaccination will be reducing in a large part of the population.
Dc3 came home devastated on Friday from school his teacher said she had covid and wasn't wearing a mask. Dc3 sibling is ecv and so dc3 is paranoid he'll pass get it and pass it on. The teacher didn't do anything wrong (is following policy) however how many people could that one secondary school teacher potentially infect (and then how many will those people infect)? It soon spreads as we've seen before. But we don't have any thing mitigating the spread at the moment.

I've asked this question several times and am yet to get an answer.

Given that current variants are incredibly contagious, what sort of 'mitigations' do you think would be effective?

outshinethemorningsun · 27/06/2022 17:43

Yes honestly the days of shouting ‘SELFISH’ are over.

There is a cost of living crisis. It now costs money to test for covid. It costs money to miss time off work. Money a lot of families can’t afford to lose.

Privileged people calling others selfish doesn’t help anything and certainly doesn’t make you a better person. At all.

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 17:43

Four of us had it recently, for three of us it was like a cold or a mild flu. For one of us, it's left us with post-viral fatigue, as do many viruses, that's gone on long enough to require sick leave and ongoing poor health, which may go on for months. My children's school has had teachers off with Long Covid. Repeated reinfections carry higher risk of lung damage, clots, neurological issues, a paper came out today saying just that.

I'm actually not an advocate of locking down again or endless mask wearing for all, but I'm realistic that whilst most people have got away with a mild version in Omicron, repeated infections, and the long-term illnesses (and death for a few unfortunate people) are going to take even more of a toll than we think on our society.

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 17:45

Every time you get Covid, you roll the dice about your future. If you can live without working and are confident about either state benefits or supporting yourself then good for you, if you can't then it is a lottery.

I get the irony that it is the poorest who can't afford to test, may not know and therefore might get more chronically ill, because Long Covid is not related to how mild the initial illness is, although it is less prevalent amongst the vaccinated.

MadMadMadamMim · 27/06/2022 17:46

@Butteryflakycrust83 basically said it all with the very first post.

MGMidget · 27/06/2022 17:48

Lots of mixing at half term with jubilee celebrations and overcrowded airports owing to flight delays won't have helped. Also, it has been suggested there's a new variant circulating which may mean that many people who had relaxed thinking they had had a recent version of covid so were 'safe' for a while have been less cautious than in the past about how they mix with people, not washing hands, not trying to social distance etc. Also, there have probably been increasing numbers expected to return as normal to work so more overcrowding on public transport and busier workplaces and last week's strikes will have meant what public transport was available would have been heavily crowded.

IcedPurple · 27/06/2022 17:49

FarFarFarAndAway · 27/06/2022 17:45

Every time you get Covid, you roll the dice about your future. If you can live without working and are confident about either state benefits or supporting yourself then good for you, if you can't then it is a lottery.

I get the irony that it is the poorest who can't afford to test, may not know and therefore might get more chronically ill, because Long Covid is not related to how mild the initial illness is, although it is less prevalent amongst the vaccinated.

Maybe some people accept that life is full of risk, and they're prepared to take their chances with this one?

DizzyWhoreI8O4 · 27/06/2022 17:49

outshinethemorningsun · 27/06/2022 17:43

Yes honestly the days of shouting ‘SELFISH’ are over.

There is a cost of living crisis. It now costs money to test for covid. It costs money to miss time off work. Money a lot of families can’t afford to lose.

Privileged people calling others selfish doesn’t help anything and certainly doesn’t make you a better person. At all.

Absolutely this.

neverbeenskiing · 27/06/2022 17:49

My DH got back from Glastonbury this morning and the friend he gave a lift home to and camped with all weekend has just text him to say he's done an LFT and it's positive. They will have come into contact with hundreds of people over the last few days, the place was heaving. DH will now almost certainly get it, which means I'll probably get it. I work in a school with almost 1800 students and 200+ staff but the rules are clear that I'm expected to come into work, which means DC will have to go to nursery and school and potentially spread it around those settings too. It's not difficult to see why so many people have it atm, it's spreading because there are absolutely no measures in place to stop it spreading.

JuneJubilee · 27/06/2022 17:51

Pinklimey · 27/06/2022 15:43

If you have a hospital appointment, you can't pretend you don't have it. They will test you and find out, @CaptainMyCaptain

Not where I am (SE). I have been for 2 appointments recently, no testing. A friend having chemo, no longer tested beforehand. Friend admitted, there two weeks, no testing.

CornishGem1975 · 27/06/2022 17:53

There's a new variant they think is causing so many cases. Still very mild though so no need to panic.

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/06/2022 17:53

lightand · 27/06/2022 17:33

Rampant here too.

The people going down with it are the ones not had it before.

Only a handful of people left now that I know of, who have not had it[those who are still being very careful]

dh and I are one of those who havnt had

tho dd4 did and dh and I been on a plane finally after 4 honeymoon cancellations

prople say cases are high again in kent but think they are riding most places

LovinglifeAF · 27/06/2022 17:53

Because it’s highly infectious and there’s no restrictions any more. This is just how it is now.

I isolated when I knew I had it but I could have been inadvertently spreading it in the meantime before I knew.

JuneJubilee · 27/06/2022 17:54

outshinethemorningsun · 27/06/2022 17:43

Yes honestly the days of shouting ‘SELFISH’ are over.

There is a cost of living crisis. It now costs money to test for covid. It costs money to miss time off work. Money a lot of families can’t afford to lose.

Privileged people calling others selfish doesn’t help anything and certainly doesn’t make you a better person. At all.

Yes all the poor underprivileged people having to take flights, go to festivals, concerts & parties...

CakePie · 27/06/2022 17:55

I've recently had it for the first time, thankful for vaccines that it wasn't worse than a bad cold. I would hope there would be free (lft) testing kits available as not everyone can afford buy them. Also some places should encourage more mask wearing (planes, trains) that are "essential" but also good breeding ground.

DelilahBucket · 27/06/2022 17:57

@PutinSmellsPassItOn I know lots of people with severe coughs who don't have Covid. Take my mum for instance, she just coughs and coughs and coughs. She has done for years, long before Covid. She has never smoked. The doctor's just can't work it out.
Or my asthmatic friend who coughs all the time. Funnily enough she's got Covid now and the one thing she isn't doing is coughing.

Bordesleyhills · 27/06/2022 17:58

Dad went for his blood tests- no mask ( not wise) wasn’t that unwell but he’s just finished chemo . Mum however really went down with it. Thank goodness I didn’t as pregnant nor did my husband. A matter of time before I’m sure we do get it but that’s life.

TheGoodburger · 27/06/2022 17:59

Every time you get Covid, you roll the dice about your future. If you can live without working and are confident about either state benefits or supporting yourself then good for you, if you can't then it is a lottery
That's just life. You could get in a car crash everytime you leave the house, could slip on the stairs and break your back, get a cut and get sepsis etc. The whole of life is a what if lottery, this is not some unique thing for covid, life is full of risks but you still have to live it.

DizzyWhoreI8O4 · 27/06/2022 18:02

JuneJubilee · 27/06/2022 17:54

Yes all the poor underprivileged people having to take flights, go to festivals, concerts & parties...

Yes, poor people don't ever do things like go to parties or on holiday or have a life at all and if they do they're obviously lying about being poor 🙄