Forest school only for 'select' children

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Ds in Y3 and his school have recently 'selected' children from his class to go to forest school. The children do this weekly whilst the other children have to stay at school and do work. The children (selected) get to wear their own clothes that day and have treats.

The school did the same thing last year and ds wasn't chosen then. Ds has had a really difficult time recently at school and would have loved to have been selected for this activity. I asked his teacher if all the children will eventually get their turn at the forest school but she has said only certain children can go. AIBU to think this is a bit unfair?

Pumperthepumper

You’re just embarrassing yourself now. Please stop.

By pointing out the massive flaw in your ‘reception forest school is fair for everyone’ logic? I’d say I’m not the one being embarrassing here.

The problem is
Some people don't understand or accept equality.
Some people think it all is about themselves and their non disadvantaged children. So stuff is only ok if they don't feel they are missing out. It's like when people see special schools as places to put children who they perceive might slow down/inconvenience their child rather than as being of benefit to the child with the disability.

pumper thepumper
It’s pretty obvious to everyone with that different years do different things.
very difficult to a group going out and leaving others to sit and write.

So you don't think kid's from deprived backgrounds deserve the odd day out? All those places are where children usually go on a family day out. But they likely don't get chance to do that.

A close friend of mine is from a deprived background. She went on a free camping holiday to France at 13 for deprived children. The only time she left our town in her life was with school. She was exempt from paying as school knew the circumstances. Yes her parents brought 5 children up on benefits.

Because of that holiday she was determined she was going to have a better life for herself. She got a job in a hotel through school at 14 again for deprived children. Because she had her own money she was able to buy herself some new clothes. She saved up her wages to come on holiday at 16 with my family.

She was a single mum her daughters father was useless. She's now also a nana of two. She has a mortgage and been in the same job 12 years. She is the hardest working person I know. If she hadn't had that support when we were at school who knows where she would be today.

Exactly there's usually a very good reason and school's can't discuss individual circumstances. You shouldn't have to explain yourself to anyone. There's usually a very good reason.

How is it? All the kids in primary five reminiscing about their glorious time in reception forest school, while the new kids are left out completely having never experienced it. How is that any different?

My child gets ‘chosen’ for a lot of interventions because of his EHCP and his high level of need due to his disability. Wanna swap a forest school experience for a challenging, lifelong disability, that impacts his fundamental ability to function, and get through the basic requirements of day-to-day living? Not to mention our whole family’s life, every single day. No, I didn’t think so.
As for the ‘silent majority’, guessing they have no clue either.

My goodness, what a lot of nonsense. Forest school isn't that great you know, it's just the latest fad. It's building dens in the woods, learning how to make a fire, looking at bugs - you know, things you learn outside. Yes, it's confidence building, but so are lots of other things. OP can't you just be grateful that your school have decided your child doesn't need this experience? Lucky you, your child doesn't need it. Now get over it, it's hardly a big deal. Take your child and their friends to the woods in the holidays if you are that bothered.

"Reminiscing about the glorious time.." FFS it's not that great!

It’s very obviously a joke point.

Have you not considered those children have been through trauma? School obviously can't discuss with you individual circumstances like if a child is in foster care or there the child of an alcoholic or drug addict. They might have been born addicted.

Club together with other families and pay for a session? Or just take your child and some mates to a wood?

We state educate and fully accept we need to pay for the extras ourselves - pastoral support that’s us, decent organised sports, performance arts, extra language, tutors in weaker subjects, music lessons. The state only provides that for those in real need. The rest of us pay for our own. Haven’t you realised this yet?

Exactly my close friend wouldn't be where she is today without the support she got from school.

RainCoffeeBook

don’t be silly - you should just think yourself lucky that your child is well behaved. When he’s crying about missing out tell him it’s his fault for behaving and coming from a normal background and he should think himself lucky he’s allowed to attend school at all with all his privileges.

Is it really that hard to explain to a child that sometimes children have extra things to deal with so things are going to be different for them? Are you raising your child in such a bubble of self indulgence they can’t have empathy for others?

If people complain they'll end up having to stop providing it for anyone. You'll then have contributed to taking yet another thing away from disadvantaged kids because you can't stand to see them getting something your child isn't getting.

I really don’t think it’s that hard to explain to a kid that some people need extra help with stuff. The most badly behaved kid I know saw his father stab his mother. I can’t imagine saying to my children ‘I know, it’s so unfair that David is allowed to go outside to calm down while you have to sit at your desk’.

They do forest school in the community for local children in the holidays where I live. It's basically orgonised by the local community centre and open to all primary age children in the area. There's very few that bother to turn up. Most down for it get a better offer.

You can be as petulant as you like but it really does boil down to providing 'extra' for the children who need it.

You might be envious, but would not be envious of the difficulties that allowed them to qualify.

Raise your child to be a decent human by explaining that s/he cannot always have the same opportunities as everyone else, but will have some that others do not.

Do not allow her to be a grasping, entitled person who cannot bear to see others benefitting from something unavailable to her for very good, fair reasons.

Is it only the badly behaved pupils you have a gripe about getting interventions/special treats @Smileyaxolotl1 (where there may be a variety of reasons causing the behaviour) or would you think the same about children with physical disabilities eg wheelchair user, or life limiting illness?

Wow, you really don’t get it do you.

@Smileyaxolotl1

I’m beginning to hope that you are trolling

if not, your last remarks are breathtaking in their lack of comprehension

where’s your empathy for the kids who never get any of these special treats because they happen to not have SEN or to have been through a traumatic experience?
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Well, tell you what? I’ll keep all my fingers and toes crossed that they stay massively disadvantaged by their privilege.