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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or am I just old and out of touch?

264 replies

snowdropsandcrocuses · 24/06/2022 21:13

DD 15 has a group of friends consisting of all girls except one male. He's a lovely kid. I guess if I described him I would say good kid, loner, long hair, skinny. He's a nice boy but not particularly sociable.

So we're chatting about her friends and she says her male friend (we will call him Jack) is pansexual. I had to Google this to discover it meant he is attracted to both sexes. She then told me, in all seriousness, he is Aromantic.

I had to pause for a second and confirm she meant he does not like/do romance to which I got another honest, straight faced 'yes'

So wait, there is a 15 year old boy in your friendship group (all girls except him) that is attracted to both (all?) genders and is not interested in romance. In other words, he wants to shag but not date?

I swear I don't get it. She cannot see any irony in the term 'aromantic' for a teenage boy. And I want to stop the train and get off! WineWineWine

OP posts:
HollowTalk · 24/06/2022 22:19

weltenbummler · 24/06/2022 22:11

Mt friend told me about an acquaintance's daughter/ son who wears a differently coloured wristband to signal each day to friends and family what gender he/she / it /they feel on the day so that their surroundings can adapt lingo accordingly. Teenagers- bless them, they are so incredibly self centred. I just don't think we should just indulge their whims without questioning

They have obviously been studying in the school of Philip Bunce.

Hyvsvaar · 24/06/2022 22:19

I’m going to drop these phrases in to conversations with my 3 teens and I would be surprised if they knew the phrase aromantic.

nahnothanks · 24/06/2022 22:19

XenoBitch · 24/06/2022 22:02

I don't know! I thought bi was liking men and women, and pan was liking anyone (including trans). Having lots of labels seems to be a thing!

Bisexuality doesn’t exclude attraction to trans people. Plenty of us are bi and attracted to cis and trans people.

It’s personal preference I guess but people I’ve know describe it have said that pansexuality is more attraction to the person regardless of their gender, whereas with bisexuality, the gender still plays a part a bit. I don’t know. Whatever people are more comfortable with I suppose.

HappilyHadesBound · 24/06/2022 22:20

AceofPentacles · 24/06/2022 21:53

At least the boy is being honest I suppose!

I completely agree! Unlike a huge number of boys/men (and can be women too, not denying that, just it's a male in the context of this post) who pretend to want relationships in order to get sex.

coodawoodashooda · 24/06/2022 22:22

MindYourHeadDoggy · 24/06/2022 21:17

Yuuup.

Had my 15 year old niece arguing with me lately when I told her a girl and a “transgirl” could have a baby.

We’re fucking up these children royally.

Yes.

IdiotCreatures · 24/06/2022 22:22

Why the fuck does googling greysexual bring up an article on medical news? Does that really need to be a thing?
Genuinely, stop the ride, I can't take anymore, I want to get off now please?

Thatswhyimacat · 24/06/2022 22:23

Unless I'm misunderstanding what aromantic means, this means we are teaching girls that men who just want sex and nothing else are a distinct identity that should be respected, encouraged and accommodated?

Did we not used to call them players and it was a bad thing?

I suppose there is a scenario where two people are completely upfront about what they want when consenting to sex without strings, but I think we have all learned from experience that often this doesn't work out so well.

Apollonia1 · 24/06/2022 22:24

Omg, my kids are only 2. I can't imagine how many options they'll have for gender/sexual preference by the time they're adults. I hope it goes full circle and back to something I understand.

Laiste · 24/06/2022 22:27

''Unexpected baby in the "uterus haver" being the least of it.''

Sorry, i have a dark sense of humour, but that really made me laugh 😂

HollowTalk · 24/06/2022 22:30

I think that boy needs a nice long conversation with a middle-aged woman. Preferably the mother of one of the girls he's knocking about with.

Closetbeanmuncher · 24/06/2022 22:32

So basically a fuckboy who isn’t fussy….🤦‍♀️

I also want to get off the crazy train op, you’re not alone

XenoBitch · 24/06/2022 22:38

IdiotCreatures · 24/06/2022 22:22

Why the fuck does googling greysexual bring up an article on medical news? Does that really need to be a thing?
Genuinely, stop the ride, I can't take anymore, I want to get off now please?

It is a label, and with each label there is a flag to wave for it. I know someone who makes badges, and she gets so many orders for all these different flags.

butterflied · 24/06/2022 22:39

OrangeIsTheNewBlah · 24/06/2022 22:17

Three years ago dd had an argument with a friend that a woman and a TW could have a baby - the friend insisted that the hormones mean they literally change sex, so TW grow a uterus and vagina.

She was an A* student studying biology for A level and is now a second year medical student.

Wtf. That's worrying for a med student.

DorothyZbornakIsAQueen · 24/06/2022 22:41

You like cock, or you like fanny. Or you like cock and fanny.

Anything else is just over egging the pudding for speshul points.

All teenagers think they know everything and that us adults haven't got our finger on the pulse and just don't understand.

When in reality, we understand just fine. But we're a bit older and wiser.

ancientgran · 24/06/2022 22:42

When mine were that age and talking/lecturing me on things someone of my age couldn't possibly understand I used to find saying, "That's nice." or "That's interesting." was useful.

PriamFarrl · 24/06/2022 22:48

HollowTalk · 24/06/2022 21:51

I'd just say, there have always been boys who just want sex and don't want a relationship. Say, we used to have a different name for them though.

Men like this have always existed but now they can feel ok about it because it has a name and classes as a sexuality rather than just twat.

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 22:50

Back in the day, you slept with some people and said no to others.
You didn't need a badge or a label to declare your allegiance ahead of time.

I don't get the need for classification. It's so backward! In an attempt to get away from society's boxes, they've designed a whole bunch of other boxes and a complicated jigsaw network to match. Madness.

Sandra1984 · 24/06/2022 22:50

Pansexual+aromantic= confused.

He's sounds like another confused teenager trying to figure out himself, these kids come up with all sorts of fancy terms nowadays. I had a client tell me the other day he was "polyamorous" because he likes to shag different women with no strings attached. In the old days he would have been a "shagger" but "polyamorous" sounds fancier.

Closetbeanmuncher · 24/06/2022 22:50

You like cock, or you like fanny. Or you like cock and fanny

Anything else is just over egging the pudding for speshul points

agreed 😂😂

S0upertrooper · 24/06/2022 22:54

I read that as aromatic and assumed he wore a lot of perfume 😬

Oldraver · 24/06/2022 22:54

DorothyZbornakIsAQueen · 24/06/2022 22:41

You like cock, or you like fanny. Or you like cock and fanny.

Anything else is just over egging the pudding for speshul points.

All teenagers think they know everything and that us adults haven't got our finger on the pulse and just don't understand.

When in reality, we understand just fine. But we're a bit older and wiser.

Our teen DS knows his parents are bi-sexual, though in a committed relationship to each other. He's come out as Pansexual

Feels like a game of Top Trumps

FlissyPaps · 24/06/2022 22:54

Weird how so many adults are triggered by a 15 year olds sexuality.

Sandra1984 · 24/06/2022 22:55

S0upertrooper · 24/06/2022 22:54

I read that as aromatic and assumed he wore a lot of perfume 😬

It's "aromantic" 😂

PhoneyM · 24/06/2022 22:57

weltenbummler · 24/06/2022 22:11

Mt friend told me about an acquaintance's daughter/ son who wears a differently coloured wristband to signal each day to friends and family what gender he/she / it /they feel on the day so that their surroundings can adapt lingo accordingly. Teenagers- bless them, they are so incredibly self centred. I just don't think we should just indulge their whims without questioning

Yes this happens in my DC class and they get detention if the get the label wrong. 🫥

DorothyZbornakIsAQueen · 24/06/2022 22:57

Weird how so many adults are triggered by a 15 year olds sexuality

Weird how you think people having a chat on a forum = being triggered.