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To not 'get' the weight lifting craze?

166 replies

bellaiceberg · 24/06/2022 14:50

It's only my own opinion, and I accept we are all different, blah blah.
But I don't get the contemporary obsession with building muscle. Keeping toned and fit? Yes. Strong and capable? Yes, sure!
But basically eliminating natural female curves and softness to a large extent makes no sense to me. For those who are into body sculpting, that's great, but for the general population?

It kind of reminds me of Germaine Greer when she asked why is 'equality' now about imitating men, rather than men meeting us in the middle?
We women do seem to be growing more and more towards the masculine whilst pushing the naturally feminine away somewhat. Strength is something that isn't always skin deep, and our natural bodies perform just perfectly without terrifying hip thrusts and being able to lift up a small car.

Im exaggerating, but I do feel that our culture is becoming more and more weird about women's bodies. Building muscle in theory is great, and we do tend to lay more fat down, but there's a point where it all starts getting weird. Just seen images of a woman with a fabulous figure who was slightly overweight. She had soft curves and looked pretty fit. Everyone advised her to get everything built up at the gym, that her curved thighs and soft (flat) stomach were not 'healthy'.

AIBU to think it is all bollox? That it's gone from a healthy fitness thing towards a fear of the feminine? I know many women dont have curves and are still obviously feminine. I also know that what we term 'masc/fem' is pretty fluid anyway. But I am strictly focusing on weight training here, and the idea that this is the optimal way for a woman to get fit and healthy.

If I look at some instagram accounts where people are into this, I would honestly say it's more of a fashion/vanity project that health related, for both men and women. Whilst some are concentrating on having exaggerated 'booty's', others are desperate to eliminate any softness or curve. As if it is wrong to have any soft flesh at all.

I agree that muscle is as much feminine as masculine, but we still live in a society where our culture teaches boys to look down on anything traditionally associated with girls (from colours ~ pink!, emotional expression, nurturing, softness, intuition, etc). IMHO we have had to imitate men to become acceptable as opposed to men gaining more respect for US.

And yes yes i know people will pile on and say weight training saved their life/the third world/their obesity, etc. But I do think it's bonkers when a perfectly healthy woman is told any softness is unhealthy.

OP posts:
littleburn · 24/06/2022 16:48

YABU. Obviously it's no one else's business how a woman wants her body to look, but physiologically it's very hard for the average women to build muscle to the same extent as men. Lifting for women typically creates tone and can create curves, e.g. a perter more curvaceous butt. It also obviously builds strength and, once you're reaching menopause, is very important in helping prevent muscle loss and build bone density.

If you came to my gym and watched the 'women who lift' they are a mix of body shapes. I lift and I'm a 'soft' hourglass - 5'2" and a12/14. However, if you look at fitness gurus on Instagram they will skew towards more muscular as fitness is their living and they spend much more time on it than the average woman in the gym.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 24/06/2022 16:49

You’re being utterly ridiculous. If you follow accounts in instagram that are about fitness, you’ll see women flexing and showing off their muscles.

In reality, most women who weight train don’t have visible muscles they are just in better shape.

Your opinion is being swayed by the algorithm.

Ikeabag · 24/06/2022 16:50

Alright, I read the comments (after I posted, natch) and I'm extremely happy to see so many lifters here. waves with gnarly calloused hands

Westfacing · 24/06/2022 16:51

A few years ago a friend in the US took up weights, via a gym system called Crossfit/CrossGym something like that - they were international as she used to visit one when came to say with me in London.

She's now 73 and 68 when she started! She'd been a few stone overweight when I'd previously seen her but on this trip she looked great and had lost 30lbs; not at all 'body-builder' and masculine but a real fit and healthy woman, ready for anything that older age holds in wait for her!

gamerchick · 24/06/2022 16:51

Have you any idea the effort that goes into building muscle if you're female? Seriously OP, give it a shot, you might be nicely surprised.

Wombat27A · 24/06/2022 16:52

I'd rather not have sarcopenia, thanks...

Ikeabag · 24/06/2022 16:55

@RopeyOldBird Noice. I suspect I'll never be lean (you should see the women who came before me) but I hope to be lifting forever.

Ikeabag · 24/06/2022 16:58

@Idontlikehim I wish it were that easy. As it is, I'm stuck just trying to perfect my "Put that cookie down, Howard!" because it's as close as I'll ever get. 😁

goldfinchonthelawn · 24/06/2022 16:59

I think you are basing your judgement on the extremes. I go weightlifting 3 times a week. I've always been quite chunky in shape, even when very slim I had big thighs. I'm now not very slim, but I am reasonably toned under a bit of padding. Best of all - I'm strong. I find it easy to carry shopping, lift furniture, do all sorts of thinsg I was startung to struggle with a couple of years ago.
Weightlifting is about feeling strong and confident. The other women I know who lift have similar bodies to mine - quite chunky, bit padded, sculpted underneath the female fleshy bits. They too work out for strength as much as anything else.

Watchkeys · 24/06/2022 17:02

How often do you see a woman on the street who you think is overly muscly, @bellaiceberg ? I saw one a couple of months ago, but by and large, we look like we used to, or larger. If muscles were taking over the world, as you suggest, health statistics would be very different. Obesity is the problem, not muscle.

pixie5121 · 24/06/2022 17:03

I think you're an overweight woman who feels targeted by this and you want to convince yourself that you're somehow healthier and more feminine than women who lift weights.

Sorry, you're not.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 24/06/2022 17:08

bellaiceberg · 24/06/2022 15:12

I don't want abs, and do like some softness at my thigh and upper arms. I do yoga and pilates and I am strong enough. I think my issue in the OP is how this is called unhealthy now. It's sad. I hope that makes sense?

No it really doesn't

lifting weights is fantastic exercise, extremely beneficial for women pre menopause and enjoyable! It's the only exercise I actually enjoy. I certainly still have soft bits and look very female. I really don't get your point.

firef1y · 24/06/2022 17:08

Thanks to a hormone imbalance and lots and lots of work, I probably have a higher than average muscle mass. But guess what, that's my choice, I made the decision that I like the stronger look. I've been the same size I am now without muscle and it didn't suit me, I looked ill.

I lift heavy things because that's one aspect of exercise I enjoy, I also enjoy running marathons, going to high intensity classes, doing high intensity workouts and being pushed by my trainer. So you could say I enjoy the feeling of pushing my body as far as I can.

I also strength train to help manage a life-long connective tissue disorder, using free weights has strengthened all the little stabilising muscles which means fewer dislocations.

Then there's the fact I've lost a lot of weight, this means loose skin which the muscle fills to a degree.

But even with a genetic advantage, building muscle for a woman isn't easy. It's not a case of picking up the 5kg dumbells a couple of times a week. It's being dedicated enough to spend hours in the gym each week, following a program, lifting steadily heavier and heavier weights. It's eating right. It's dealing with the attitude of some men, for daring to be in the squat rack/free weight section.
Thankfully that attitude seems to be changing, but when I started I was literally the only female in that section of my gym.

ToysRMine · 24/06/2022 17:11

I lift heavy weights, multiple times a week. I originally started going to the gym as I have chronic health issues and needed to be fit and fell in love. I don’t really do any cardio at all apart from a ten minute warm up on the cross trainer and I do regular swimming.

I can’t really lift too much when doing upper body but when doing lower body workouts I can outlift my DP by a mile. My body looks far, far more ‘feminine’ than when I first started. My thigh muscles are much bigger but my waist is much smaller and my bum is bigger and more lifted and my body is overall much more curvy, so I don’t know what But basically eliminating natural female curves and softness to a large extent makes no sense to me. this means. Most people who go to the gym and even lift heavily don’t look like this. Even the female personal trainers don’t look like the people you see on instagram do.

devildeepbluesea · 24/06/2022 17:21

Lifting heavy weights helps guard against osteoporosis and some of the muscle atrophy that comes with age. I think every woman over 40 should lift heavy. I also think it looks good if a woman has clearly defined muscles.

crazy4cats · 24/06/2022 17:24

I'm glad the tide has turned! I remember when I first joined a gym not going anywhere near the weight section as that was dominated by men and I felt like I shouldn't be there / self conscious. So I slogged it out on the treadmill instead (Boring!).

Now, you go to the gym and it's pretty equal! I love it. I love having muscles and being strong! Doing weighted pull ups is a feat that I'm so proud of that years ago I wouldn't have thought possible. Also my back looks awsome, just saying.

Now I'm pregnant and not up for the gym so much so turning soft, I don't like it! hoping my fattgue and feeling weird passes soon so I can get back to it (albeit altered for pregnancy of course)

crazy4cats · 24/06/2022 17:26

Ikeabag · 24/06/2022 16:50

Alright, I read the comments (after I posted, natch) and I'm extremely happy to see so many lifters here. waves with gnarly calloused hands

daily pummous (sp?) stone to the hand per chance? Feels good to file those callouses off!

firef1y · 24/06/2022 17:33

crazy4cats · 24/06/2022 17:26

daily pummous (sp?) stone to the hand per chance? Feels good to file those callouses off!

But callouses are a badge of honour. I always get a little bit sad when I get to the point in marathon training where I've had to give up deadlifting and lose my callouses.
(I also lift raw, so need that tough skin to help with my grip)

Cstring · 24/06/2022 17:35

I think you may be confusing strength training with body building?
I strength train a couple of times a week and it’s extremely good for me. Yes I have some biceps and quads now but they are not bulging out through clothes and I’m not flexing them non stop! It’s helped me lose a considerable amount of weight with diet changes too, and my curves are even more emphasised as my waist / stomach have reduced.
you should try it - you might enjoy it.

pixie5121 · 24/06/2022 17:38

Cstring · 24/06/2022 17:35

I think you may be confusing strength training with body building?
I strength train a couple of times a week and it’s extremely good for me. Yes I have some biceps and quads now but they are not bulging out through clothes and I’m not flexing them non stop! It’s helped me lose a considerable amount of weight with diet changes too, and my curves are even more emphasised as my waist / stomach have reduced.
you should try it - you might enjoy it.

What do you do to get biceps and quads and how long did it take?

PuttaMyDream · 24/06/2022 17:44

pixie5121 · 24/06/2022 17:03

I think you're an overweight woman who feels targeted by this and you want to convince yourself that you're somehow healthier and more feminine than women who lift weights.

Sorry, you're not.

This. Absolutely this.

Cstring · 24/06/2022 17:46

@pixie5121 quads - squats, lunges, treadmill walking on an incline and leg press. Biceps - anything pulling and dumbbells.
it has taken consistency over a few months to see results.

pixie5121 · 24/06/2022 17:47

Cstring · 24/06/2022 17:46

@pixie5121 quads - squats, lunges, treadmill walking on an incline and leg press. Biceps - anything pulling and dumbbells.
it has taken consistency over a few months to see results.

Oh wow, a few months is good, though! I'm not seeing much obvious muscle gain, which is making a bit demotivated, which in turn makes me try less, but I'm going to start doing more!

Watchkeys · 24/06/2022 17:50

@pixie5121

Consistency is key. Don't lose your mojo, you're probably right on the cusp of seeing results, and you'll be so pleased when you do.

Mischance · 24/06/2022 17:51

As someone who has just had to have microdiscectomy surgery for a protruding disc and nerve root entrapment, I would say do not lift weights unless you want to bugger your back up. I have been on crutches for months.

Repetitive abnormal actions are a killer. They are not a necessary part of keeping fit and well.