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To think 2 weeks is an unusually long summer holiday?

410 replies

PrettyLittleCryer · 23/06/2022 18:22

How long do you take off on holiday if you go away over summer - particularly if you work full time?

I think half a month is a long time to expect to just walk out of a job and them to carry on without you.

But is that what most people take?

OP posts:
bluetongue · 23/06/2022 23:44

Not summer holidays but I’m taking 3 weeks off this year in one go and then 5 weeks at the beginning of next year.

I’m in Australia so it’s more common for people to do longer trips as most flights abroad are long and expensive.

Nobody bats and eyelid. They just say’I’m jealous, enjoy your trip’.

FlibbertyGiblets · 23/06/2022 23:45

ArcheryAnnie · 23/06/2022 23:39

This is idle curiosity on my part - but how on earth does taking two weeks together protect against fraud?!

Annie
Nick Leeson was the trigger really.
More than 2 weeks (10 working days) away from your desk means the wheels can come off your secret signature forgery wheeze. So lots of places monitor patterns of leave, reluctance to be away for a stretch of time can be indicative; a blunt tool admittedly.

Alwayspaintyournails · 23/06/2022 23:45

ArcheryAnnie · 23/06/2022 23:39

This is idle curiosity on my part - but how on earth does taking two weeks together protect against fraud?!

It’s normally long enough to show any changes to banking, book keeping, payroll, time sheets etc

Siepie · 23/06/2022 23:45

ByJingoes · 23/06/2022 22:44

Possibly not. Do striking train drivers or university teachers lose their pay for the days on which they are on strike? Genuine question.

Yes. People on strike don't get paid, so deciding to strike is never a decision taken lightly. Strikers are effectively saying "this issue is so important that I'm willing to lose a day/week/month's pay for it."

During the miners strikes in the 80s, volunteers in Yorkshire opened soup kitchens for the first time in 60 years. People were truly putting their entire household's income on the line in order to protest. Obviously most strikes nowadays don't last as long as the miners strikes, but it can still be a big financial hit.

RevoltingHumanHead · 23/06/2022 23:48

ArcheryAnnie · 23/06/2022 23:39

This is idle curiosity on my part - but how on earth does taking two weeks together protect against fraud?!

it was addressed up thread but it seems it's easier to detect irregularities if the person committing 'irregularities' is gone for a fortnight rather than just a few days. And if you're off for two weeks someone else is more likely to take over your responsibilities, meaning more transparency.

EarthquakesinEastActon · 23/06/2022 23:49

Siepie · 23/06/2022 23:45

Yes. People on strike don't get paid, so deciding to strike is never a decision taken lightly. Strikers are effectively saying "this issue is so important that I'm willing to lose a day/week/month's pay for it."

During the miners strikes in the 80s, volunteers in Yorkshire opened soup kitchens for the first time in 60 years. People were truly putting their entire household's income on the line in order to protest. Obviously most strikes nowadays don't last as long as the miners strikes, but it can still be a big financial hit.

Not only do you lose pay, but strike days are subtracted from your reckonable service for occupational pensions.

plinkplinkfizzer · 23/06/2022 23:57

Two weeks is perfectly normal for a summer holiday , remember factories used to shut for two weeks in summer 20th century .

Regularsizedrudy · 23/06/2022 23:59

ByJingoes · 23/06/2022 22:44

Possibly not. Do striking train drivers or university teachers lose their pay for the days on which they are on strike? Genuine question.

:S er of course they don’t. How have you made it to adulthood without realising this?

Regularsizedrudy · 23/06/2022 23:59

Don’t get paid that is.

Natsku · 24/06/2022 09:31

ByJingoes · 23/06/2022 22:44

Possibly not. Do striking train drivers or university teachers lose their pay for the days on which they are on strike? Genuine question.

Don't get paid by employer but if you have a good union you get paid from the strike fund. My union pays 200 euros a day during strikes.

Cuwins · 24/06/2022 09:36

@Natsku
I have never heard of this. RMT certainly don't

Invisibelle · 24/06/2022 09:38

riesenrad · 23/06/2022 22:10

Goodness three is even worse. That doesn't leave you with much left for other things in the year. I'd be so bored. I know you can split it and go to different places but I'd rather do different trips at different times of year.

But you can, since you have 7 weeks in total. Problem solved.

Natsku · 24/06/2022 09:41

Cuwins · 24/06/2022 09:36

@Natsku
I have never heard of this. RMT certainly don't

unions strike more often in my country (had more than 100 days this year with the paper workers Union and health and social care did some short strikes too) so strike funds are important, don't want workers not being able to afford to strike and undermining the action.

Dougieowner · 24/06/2022 10:00

We don't take holidays and haven't for the nearly 30-years we have been together. What we do try to do is have a few days out or a weekend away now and again.

When I was young (1970's) my parents loved being away (caravanning) and every year we would have 2-weeks away at Easter, 3-weeks in the summer plus be away at least two weekends a month. Loved it at the time and couldn't understand how other people just stayed at home.
In retirement my parents went away even more in their motorcaravan. 3-Times a year they would spend a month on the continent and the rest of the time they were away almost every weekend (never understood the weekend bit as they were free agents?).
We also motorcaravan but as days out or overnight breaks.

brookstar · 24/06/2022 11:36

Do striking train drivers or university teachers lose their pay for the days on which they are on strike? Genuine question.

Yes, if you strike you don't get paid and it impacts your pension.

MargosKaftan · 24/06/2022 11:48

@ririesenrad - its standard across banking and insurance that either you have to take 2 weeks / 10 working days in a row, and reluctance / refusal to do that is a red flag to look at your work to see what are you reluctant to hand over to someone else /why you won't take time off.

Its been proven over and over again that people who committed large frauds at work often got away with it for a long time because noone else ever looked closely at what they were doing.

When big scandals happen and they say afterwards "lessons have to be learned", this is one of those lessons. Refusal doesn't mean you are definitely committing fraud or covering up something, but its a red flag for your bosses to take a closer look at your work.

MargosKaftan · 24/06/2022 11:51

Also I'm flabbergasted by those saying they'd get bored with 3 weeks off work / struggle to fill their time. What's your retirement plan?! If you really need paid work to fill your time to stop you getting bored, what are you going to do for 20-30 years once you stop working?

Octomore · 24/06/2022 16:53

MargosKaftan · 24/06/2022 11:51

Also I'm flabbergasted by those saying they'd get bored with 3 weeks off work / struggle to fill their time. What's your retirement plan?! If you really need paid work to fill your time to stop you getting bored, what are you going to do for 20-30 years once you stop working?

I'm also astonished.

When you have free time on holiday, you can spend it doing anything that you find enjoyable - read a book, play an instrument, watch a film, go for a bike ride. Why on earth would you get bored?

My mum used to say that only boring people get bored, and I increasingly think she was right.

Bobbins36 · 24/06/2022 17:53

America has some really mean attitudes to employee holidays.

SardineJam · 24/06/2022 18:08

Senior manager here in a global role in a multinational company - I take two weeks off in the summer, and do not work at all

SardineJam · 24/06/2022 18:13

Dougieowner · 24/06/2022 10:00

We don't take holidays and haven't for the nearly 30-years we have been together. What we do try to do is have a few days out or a weekend away now and again.

When I was young (1970's) my parents loved being away (caravanning) and every year we would have 2-weeks away at Easter, 3-weeks in the summer plus be away at least two weekends a month. Loved it at the time and couldn't understand how other people just stayed at home.
In retirement my parents went away even more in their motorcaravan. 3-Times a year they would spend a month on the continent and the rest of the time they were away almost every weekend (never understood the weekend bit as they were free agents?).
We also motorcaravan but as days out or overnight breaks.

You don't take time off from work or you.dont go away somewhere on holiday?

PoleFairy · 24/06/2022 18:22

It's mandatory that you take at least one 2 week block of holiday a year in my work! We get 28 days total plus bank Holidays and you must take at least 2 consecutive weeks annual leave a year

LovelyYellowLabrador · 24/06/2022 18:26

Seems it these days !

Tomasinabombadil · 24/06/2022 18:26

RevoltingHumanHead · 23/06/2022 18:26

Was so much easier when people only got every other Sunday off work.

🤣😂🤣

AmberMcAmber · 24/06/2022 18:27

By law you are entitled to two weeks uninterrupted leave per year if you are full time (until this right is revoked by the non human rights bill) - I agree many people can’t afford to or give into work pressure because it’s not convenient for bosses to cover you but that’s their problem