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Mick Lynch

575 replies

KangFang · 23/06/2022 13:08

Anyone else here loving his work?

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MediocreHRPerson · 23/06/2022 19:17

To hear someone speak with passion and directness and truth (how they see it) is refreshing.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 23/06/2022 19:28

Roussette · 23/06/2022 18:58

But there's something in his sneering, prickly responses that makes me think he might be a bit of a bully. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I wouldn't say I like him as such. But I do admire the way he is on top of his brief.

So disagree. We are spoonfed a diet of evasive lying Ministers, I don't think we are used to straight talking factual people. He knows the background, he knows his business, he states it clearly and he isn't rude. Unlike some of the no-mark interviewers who have really shown themselves up this week.

Also... in response to whoever generalised about over 55's.
I'm one. I loathe the DMail and I support the strike. I think it's an own goal for the Tories which I'm finding very amusing.

They just need a trouncing in Devon and Wakefield, and my week will be perfect!

Completely agree. And I would say Mick Lynch for PM, except, with the way the modern world works, with instantaneous social media take downs, I’m not sure even he could be as straight talking if he was on that role.
I’ve seen footage of years old interviews, with politicians, by the likes of Robin Day. The interviewees were almost allowed to ‘think out loud’ during them. The There’s no way that would be acceptable now. The discourse was measured and intelligent. Not so much now. The, ok not political, Friday Night, Saturday Morning debate hosted by Tim Rice, re Life of Brian, with Michael Palin, John Cleese, Malcom Muggeridge and the Bishop of Southwark is a master class in the genre. Perfectly polite, intelligent debate. Even Malcolm Muggeridge doesn’t look too much of a bigoted fool by todays standards.

Maireas · 23/06/2022 19:30

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 19:14

Oh, and am 62 people can stop with the ageist crap.

What. Ageist. Crap?

No one 'generalised'. No one is saying that all over 55s vote or think a certain way.

The PP pointed out the facts around how older demographics as a demographic group tend to vote. Not that all older people vote that way. Just how the votes tend to fall over the last few decades in terms of who casts them and how people respond to opinion polls, which broadly align. There's also quite a lot of academic research on the subject.

Seriously. This is about facts, not generalisations or stereotypes. Older demographic groups tend to be more conservative. It was true under Thatcher (though as PPs have pointed out, the inflection point between left and right voting was younger under Thatcher) and it seems to be holding true now.

What ageist crap?
Older voters voting Tory. Older voters supporting Brexit. That crap.

beachcitygirl · 23/06/2022 19:30

Fanbloodytastic ✊🏻 and my own industry have just voted by a mandate of 97.3% to strike this summer.
Workers fight back. Your time is up corrupt capitalists, fat cat bosses & tory apologists.

Maireas · 23/06/2022 19:31

ClaudineClare · 23/06/2022 17:46

Yeah but the Boomers/over 55's, as a voting/polling majority, will always go for the Daily Mail position on absolutely anything. It's uncanny on absolutely any polling issue at all

This is such a horrible generalisation. Who do you think fought for the workers/womens/gay and lesbian rights that exist now? Who was out campaigning against the Tories during the Thatcher years? Who fought for marital rape to become illegal etc. etc. etc? Boomers and the over 55s, that's who.

Thank. You.

Maireas · 23/06/2022 19:32

hobbledyhoy · 23/06/2022 17:08

I love him, what a hero. The fact that he dealt with Richard Madeley in such a withering manner put the cherry on the cake for me.

Brilliant! "Twaddle" indeed.

ClaudineClare · 23/06/2022 19:49

@JassyRadlett there is not a single Tory led Council in Wales, not one. So what happened there? Did the older folk just stay at home reading right wing rags?

Roussette · 23/06/2022 19:50

Maireas · 23/06/2022 19:32

Brilliant! "Twaddle" indeed.

How, in the name of all that is holy, Richard Madeley can be cast as a journalist on a primetime breakfast news show, beats me.
He was a tit back in the day on This Morning, talking nonstop over his wife, putting his foot in it, not knowing the facts... and here is. 2022 Alan Partridge.

He showed himself up with his twaddle!

carefullycourageous · 23/06/2022 19:51

He's putting his message out calmly and clearly, and he is such an antidote to the platitudes and rehearsed lines we are used to hearing.

I hope he has a good outing on QT tonight.

ClaudineClare · 23/06/2022 19:59

They just need a trouncing in Devon and Wakefield, and my week will be perfect!
🙏

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/06/2022 19:59

Maireas · 23/06/2022 19:31

Thank. You.

Yes!

onanotherday · 23/06/2022 20:03

So refreshing to hear someone state their reasons, whether you agree or not. To get an answer without deflection..I'd almost forgotten how it sounds.istening to Johnson throw 'Scargall's' name in at PMQ's, directly from the Sun's front page conformed to me who really runs this county. The last 12 years and particularly the last 3 years have be deverstating .

the80sweregreat · 23/06/2022 20:06

Madeley thinks is his funny , he really isn't.

ivykaty44 · 23/06/2022 20:11

Blimey. What a lot of questions for someone who it's got fuck all to do with.

great deflection to not actually answering any of the questions
My take is you’re prejudiced and actually have no reasons other than that, otherwise an intelligent answer would have been forthcoming

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/06/2022 20:15

Yes waiting on by election news hopefully.

He’ll still stay though. I hope he does. Then they’ll be even more screwed.

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 20:20

ClaudineClare · 23/06/2022 19:49

@JassyRadlett there is not a single Tory led Council in Wales, not one. So what happened there? Did the older folk just stay at home reading right wing rags?

Likelihood is relative, not an absolute. Which I suspect you know. It's talking about who is more likely to support a view than the other age demographics (in this case)

For example, in the run up to the 2021 Senedd elections, ComRes polls showed extremely low support for the Conservatives among 16-24 year olds (7% in the poll I'm looking at right now), with increasing likelihood to support through the age groups until you get to 28% in 55-64% and 41% in 65+.

But you are entirely right that increasing likelihood does not equal an absolute majority in that demographic in 100% of cases. And neither does an absolute majority in one age demographic guarantee an electoral outcome (though a majority of 55+ in the mental FPTP Westminster system would tend to make it an awful lot easier for the Conservatives, who have a less splintered vote post-UKIP.)

Just as well no one suggested it did.

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 20:22

Anyway - strikes have quite high levels of support. Overall, people think they're justified. Which from my personal middle-aged commuter POV I think is rather fabulous.

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 20:26

Older voters voting Tory. Older voters supporting Brexit. That crap.

Are you disagreeing that as voters age (from basically 18 onwards) they are more likely to vote Conservative/were more likely to support Brexit?

Could you share that evidence please? I'd be fascinated to see it, you'll gather from this thread that I'm extremely interested in the impact of all demographic differentials on voting behaviour; I've not seen anything that suggests that voters in the UK, as a group, get more liberal as we age.

ivykaty44 · 23/06/2022 20:26

Rail fares have been increased year after year under this government

the last two years the rail works have accepted 0% pay rise

this year though with inflation at 11% they’ve said no to another 0% pay rise

its just not on and this chap has called out a lot of the lies, knows his stuff and that’s why he can stay calm and on track

i certainly am not in favour of Arthur Scargills tactics or Brexit

JassyRadlett · 23/06/2022 20:35

ivykaty44 · 23/06/2022 20:26

Rail fares have been increased year after year under this government

the last two years the rail works have accepted 0% pay rise

this year though with inflation at 11% they’ve said no to another 0% pay rise

its just not on and this chap has called out a lot of the lies, knows his stuff and that’s why he can stay calm and on track

i certainly am not in favour of Arthur Scargills tactics or Brexit

Yes - it's very glossed over that their pay hasn't been keeping up with inflation previously either. So it's not just annual inflation at 11% as a one off, it's cumulative inflation over a number of years.

7% looks pretty modest in that context.

ivykaty44 · 23/06/2022 20:39

from Twitter

Costs are going up, while wages are largely stagnant, meaning those at the bottom can't buy as much stuff, therefore the money that was previously flowing through a wide range of intermediaries is now flowing through fewer, in many cases cutting out small businesses

^and going straight to the big players, who almost immediately remove that money from the system, making the situation worse.
Don't blame the workers, whose income keeps the economy going, blame those who are getting richer while we all get poorer.^

The strength of the economic system we have is not the amount of money in the system, but rather it's movement - those at the top are hoovering up as much as they can then stashing it in banks (or worse, off-shore), effectively taking money out of the system

Mick Lynch is say to much profit and not enough pay for workers

this will lead us into a recession

FunDragon · 23/06/2022 20:47

SwedishEdith · 23/06/2022 18:02

Yeah but the Boomers/over 55's, as a voting/polling majority, will always go for the Daily Mail position on absolutely anything.

Lazy, lazy, bullshit.

Loving Mick Lynch's work. Unflappable and sharp. But he's still defending Brexit so drops a few points there.

Yes. He’s impressive in interview but I can’t take anyone who’s still defending Brexit seriously.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 23/06/2022 20:48

TullyApplebottom · 23/06/2022 14:33

It’s the left wing mentality. They don’t do democracy. Agree or be cast out.
it fails time and again at the ballot box. But they won’t stop, for some reason.

Hahahahhahaha Dear lord, so much BS. What a load of shite

ivykaty44 · 23/06/2022 20:55

twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1539718403216363520?s=21&t=cHwHaS2s8JWqUY7ITGKdzg

cant take someone seriously that knows his subject matter but has a different opinion from you? Really

continually shows up MPs and supposed journalists by handing them their arse on a plate as they’ve not done any homework on the subject

the80sweregreat · 23/06/2022 20:58

The DM will dig up something on him I'm sure his had a good run this week at destroying the media , but they always strike back ..let's hope there isn't too many skeletons about.