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Why is my bolognese so Bland? Any tips from good cooks?

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UsernameA1B2 · 21/06/2022 15:41

I fry onions, carrots, celery and lean beef mince in a pan. Drain off excess fat. Then add tinned tomatoes, tomatoe puree, pepper, garlic, and italian herbs and leave to simmer. It tastes quite bland, what I am doing wrong? Any advice?

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TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 21/06/2022 16:43

Half a pound of chopped red chillies tend to lift the blandness a tad.

heathspeedwell · 21/06/2022 16:43

Have you tried using Quorn mince and a veg stock cube? When I make spag bol for meat eaters they always say it's amazing. It makes it tasty but not greasy, and it's also pretty healthy.

YetAnotherNam · 21/06/2022 16:44

I also make mine the day before, the flavours develop more overnight and the consistency is not as watery.

wineymummy · 21/06/2022 16:44

DH makes the most amazing bolognaise and I have been trying to replicate it for years. This is the gist of it:
Fry your mince on its own until it's got a good colour to it and has broken down. No long stringy bits of chewy mince left.
Add a beef stock cube and a splash of balsamic vinegar.
This is the secret (and was subject to much horror last time I said this on MN) - add a star anise. It adds so much flavour.
I think he then fries the onion separately (diced really small) and adds garlic.
Mix all back together and add 2 x canned tomatoes and a squirt of puree.
Simmer for at least an hour with lid on. You can chuck some other veg in at this stage but remember that carrots etc will make it more watery.
After an hour, take the lid off and let it reduce. Let it get slightly too dry.
Finally, add a spoonful of the pasta water to loosen it up again at the end but keep the sauce nice and thick.

Realisticrhubarb · 21/06/2022 16:44

A splash of red wine, baby plum tomatoes halved, a beef stock pot, a tiny bit of balsamic vinegar or Worcester sauce, leave to simmer then add tomato purée to thicken. I sometimes add a sprinkle of brown sugar which counteracts the tartness of the tomato purée and balsamic vinegar. I also occasionally use peppers instead of carrots - depends what I have in!

shootfromthehip145 · 21/06/2022 16:44

Tin of tomato soup
Passata or Tomato Puree
sliced fresh tomatoes Tinned Tomatoes
Pepper
dash of ketchup
sprinkle of fresh chilies
Plenty of cheese

BubblegumBlu · 21/06/2022 16:45

Cheat and use a JD seasonings pot😁

Realisticrhubarb · 21/06/2022 16:46

Ooh I add a little bit of ground cinnamon, paprika and chilli powder too and top with fresh basil

Pokkadots · 21/06/2022 16:46

Marmite

pokerdone · 21/06/2022 16:48

I cook mine down with chicken livers 🤷🏻‍♀️

Also, DONT drain the fat off! Grin

Heisenjurg · 21/06/2022 16:48

Plenty of ideas here, and not sure if it has been mentioned but I keep the rind of Parmesan wedges and throw it in once you’ve added all the other ingredients and leave it in to simmer - it adds a nice nuttiness.

theremustonlybeone · 21/06/2022 16:49

i fry up pancetta and rosemary,
add the onions, grated carrot, garlic
add mince and once browned add oregano an red wine
cook it down then add chopped tomatoes and a jar of sundried tomato paste. cook for around an hour and a half and throw in fresh basil once cookedd

LesGiselle · 21/06/2022 16:49

...I do the Parmesan rind...it makes a lovely cook's perk as well Grin

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 21/06/2022 16:49
  1. you need salt. Remove baby’s portion before you add and simmer in a separate pan.
  2. you need fat. It delivers the flavour. Stop draining it all off.
  3. Worcestershire sauce/soy sauce/balsamic vinegar/marmite - any one of those can be used to give a bite of umami. Just play around with amounts. I don’t often use wine so you don’t have to.
kisaki333 · 21/06/2022 16:50

LadyCampanulaTottington · 21/06/2022 15:46

Stop removing the fat!!! That is where the flavour is.

Use a mix of minced beef and pork. Use only plum tomatoes and crush them yourself, they’re always superior quality thank chopped or passata.

Cook long and slow.

This x100

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 21/06/2022 16:50

anon2022anon · 21/06/2022 15:42

Good glug of red wine, Worcester sauce too

definitely both of those. And add oregano, basil and a bay leaf. Channel Delia (Smith).

alphasox · 21/06/2022 16:50

First, very slowly fry off your onion, celery, carrots (all very finely diced) until caramelised (low low hob for a lot longer than you would imagine.) Add lots of garlic and brown slightly (don't burn). Then add the meat and brown.

In terms of sauce I'd go chopped toms, tomato paste, stock, oregano red wine and balsamic vinegar. Season well. Absolutely fine to put wine in for kids.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 21/06/2022 16:51

heathspeedwell · 21/06/2022 16:43

Have you tried using Quorn mince and a veg stock cube? When I make spag bol for meat eaters they always say it's amazing. It makes it tasty but not greasy, and it's also pretty healthy.

Last tried doing this recently with Quorn and it tasted horrid. What are your secrets?

Snoopsnoggysnog · 21/06/2022 16:51

A glass of red wine, and fry your garlic to release the aromas.

bert3400 · 21/06/2022 16:52

Fresh Basil, tons of it + tons of garlic 6-10 cloves

OneTC · 21/06/2022 16:52

Add salt and a bit of sugar

TheDogsMother · 21/06/2022 16:52

I think the recipe from Giorgio Locatelli's Made in Italy is the best ever. I make it in big batches and defrost as needed.

melitalucy.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/the-best-bolognese-sauce/

Anonymous48 · 21/06/2022 16:53

You didn't even mention salt and pepper. Is that because it's so obvious that it's assumed, or are you just not seasoning the dish? There are, as everyone else has said, many other things you can add to give it extra flavor and more umami, but if you don't season it it's always going to taste bland.

Youcansaythatagainandagain · 21/06/2022 16:55

More seasoning, stock and Worcester sauce. And simmer for hours. A good bolognese should take hours and hours to make.

Marlaah · 21/06/2022 16:55

‘Per the USDA, you have to cook, simmer or boil a dish that contains wine for more than 2 1/2 hours to remove the alcohol. Accordingly, if you must prepare a dish with wine, only give it to your kids if it's been cooked longer than that so the alcohol evaporates. Use extra caution with younger children and infants.’

2.5 hrs is a long time…You could siphon off some of the basic Bolognese sauce for your children and add wine to the adults sauce? Also try adding Worcestershire sauce and red wine vinegar for more depth of flavour.

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