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Why is my bolognese so Bland? Any tips from good cooks?

325 replies

UsernameA1B2 · 21/06/2022 15:41

I fry onions, carrots, celery and lean beef mince in a pan. Drain off excess fat. Then add tinned tomatoes, tomatoe puree, pepper, garlic, and italian herbs and leave to simmer. It tastes quite bland, what I am doing wrong? Any advice?

OP posts:
teaandtoastwithmarmite · 21/06/2022 16:56

Marmite, beef stock. Pancetta

bathroommat · 21/06/2022 16:57

Agree with a lot of what others have said. I would also add a table spoon or two of tomato puree - brings the tomato flavour out.

Gnomechange · 21/06/2022 16:58

I add a chunk of Parmesan, makes it taste really rich.

Forgotthebins · 21/06/2022 17:00

I fry 50:50 beef and pork mince, with onions and garlic and then add tinned tomatoes, cook it down for up to an hour. Oregano in at the end. When I made it just with beef mince thinking that would be nicer it tasted of nothing and I had to add stock.

Spanielsarepainless · 21/06/2022 17:00

Oxo cube, then a little cream before you serve.

ScrambledSmegs · 21/06/2022 17:00

Put enough salt in the pasta water. So many people don't actually salt the water enough, and wonder why their sauce tastes bland.

But anyway, if your food tastes bland it's most likely due to lack of salt. I presume OP is not using much as she's feeding it to her toddler but honestly, this is why every suggestion for 'umami' flavours boils down to something salty.

Etten · 21/06/2022 17:01

Use the very best beef mince you can afford. Agree with pancetta, red wine and Worcestershire sauce. First brown the meat for a good 10 minutes, and don’t throw the fat away - that’s the flavour. Remove with a slotted spoon and then sauté the veg, adding some olive oil if needed. I also cook mine in a low oven 140 c for 1 to 1.1/2 hours. Make a huge batch and freeze.

Theblacksheepandme · 21/06/2022 17:01

This is an authentic bolognese and it's delicious. It takes time but it's worth it. Alcohol can be used in anything you are cooking for a child as the alcohol burns off.

www.itv.com/thismorning/articles/tagliatelle-with-bolognese-gino-dacampo-recipe

emmathedilemma · 21/06/2022 17:02

Add finely diced bacon, a good glug of red wine and reduce it down, half a tube of tomato puree and cook that off before adding the tinned tomatoes, and add beef stock. No herbs.

EarthSight · 21/06/2022 17:03

Have you tried sun dried tomato paste?

Ticksallboxes · 21/06/2022 17:04

A few years back I read that in Bologna any trattoria serving spaghetti bolognaise has to, by law, use this recipe. It's been a game changer for us - I think the wine, pancetta and bay leaves make a huge difference. Serves 8 approximately, or an average family for two days:

Pack of pancetta lardons
3 large onions
3 garlic cloves
2 carrots
2 sticks of celery
1.25kg minced beef (ideally butcher's or supermarket organic)
2 large glasses red wine
3 400g tins of good quality chopped tomatoes (Cirio are best)
2 bay leaves
Salt and pepper
Spaghetti
Parmesan

anybloodyname · 21/06/2022 17:05

gluenotsoup · 21/06/2022 16:16

It doesn’t add flavour but a splash of milk too, it tenderises and adds just a missing something

First one I've not come across in this thread ?
Milk ?

Lunificent · 21/06/2022 17:06

The main reason it’s tasting bland is the lack of stock. Even if you used vegetable stock it would vastly improve it. I would add a glass of red wine to the meat and veg mix, scrape the brown from the bottom of the pan and mix in. After a couple of minutes, add your stock. Then cook down slowly.
I would add Worcester sauce if it was for a cottage pie but not for bolognaise. Sometimes I add half a teaspoon of sugar. Sounds odd adding it to meat but I think it can make a tomato sauce taste a bit less bland. A good shake of dried oregano 8s a nice addition and a couple of fresh bay leaves.

Thatswhyimacat · 21/06/2022 17:06

Keep the fat. Include some pork either as pork mince or pancetta. Add wine, beef oxo, Worcestershire sauce, more garlic, more salt, then add a dash of acidity - a few drops of white wine vinegar works well with tomato dishes.

My bolognese is famous!

Crucible · 21/06/2022 17:07

Needs fat and salt, lean mince is useless for bolognese. A 50/50 split of pork and beef mince in good. Add salt!

RevoltingHumanHead · 21/06/2022 17:07

milk is traditional in an italian ragu

BruceAndNosh · 21/06/2022 17:07

Hyvsvaar · 21/06/2022 15:57

Gousto have a good recipe it has soy sauce and something else I substitute with Worcestershire sauce. It has a beef stock cube and tomato purée there recipes are available online

I use Goustos recipe and it's great.
I always cook it for twice as long as they say.

Smallperson123 · 21/06/2022 17:07

hellcatspangle · 21/06/2022 16:09

I would Chuck a glass of red wine in once it's fried off, simmer for minute or two then add the tomatoes. In addition I put a generous splashing of Worcester sauce and a crumbled beef oxo or two in.

I was worried because nobody I'd read had mentioned an oxo cube which would change this bolognese into one I'd be able to eat.

I put half a chorizo in.

I also grate carrots and celery to hide them from children who treat food like poison.

orwellwasright · 21/06/2022 17:08

SmallPrawnEnergy · 21/06/2022 16:04

Mushrooms? Worcestershire Suauce? Ketchup? You know she asked for bolognese recipes? Not some hideous frankenrecipie

But hardly anything is truly authentic so what does it matter?

To me a 'true' ragu doesn't have garlic, herbs or red wine but these are such common additions in the anglicised version as to make it a moot point.

Finely chopped onions, carrot and celery. 50/50 beef and pork. Milk, white wine, tomatoes, nutmeg.

Even that's probably a horror to some people from Bologna.

ginghamstarfish · 21/06/2022 17:09

more garlic, worcs sauce, loads of herbs, spoon of sugar, splash milk near the end

JolieJ · 21/06/2022 17:09

Chilli flakes
Spoon of red pesto

orwellwasright · 21/06/2022 17:09

nobody I'd read had mentioned an oxo cube

Loads have just used the generic 'stock'.

Danikm151 · 21/06/2022 17:09

Marmite!

Altra32 · 21/06/2022 17:10

My aunt's Italian MIL taught me a few Italian dishes

I make my sauce first by frying soffrito and half a bulb of garlic add 2 cans of tomatoes, basil and oregano a dash of balsamic a teaspoon of tomato puree, a dash of sugar( enhances the tomato flavour) and a drizzle of olive oil. While the sauce is simmering, I brown the mince with basil, oregano and garlic. Once browned, I add it to the sauce and simmer until reduced. Five minutes before the end of cooking time, I add the rest of the garlic.
Before, I drain the pasta I reserve about 200mls of the water and add it to the sauce.

It's time consuming but the results are delicious.

PersonaNonGarter · 21/06/2022 17:10

Yes to: garlic, onion, mince, tomato purée/sun dried tomato purée, beef oxo cube/strong stock, wine, salt, pepper, sugar (1/2tsp)

No, just no: Celery, bacon, carrot

Maybe but be careful: herbs

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