Why is my bolognese so Bland? Any tips from good cooks?

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I fry onions, carrots, celery and lean beef mince in a pan. Drain off excess fat. Then add tinned tomatoes, tomatoe puree, pepper, garlic, and italian herbs and leave to simmer. It tastes quite bland, what I am doing wrong? Any advice?

Double your garlic, then worcester sauce or red wine (or marmite if you are a total heathen like me) Oh and try reducing the tomato levels maybe - tin or puree, not both?

Pancetta or lardons
Half pork, half beef mince

Small amount of chilli flakes

@UsernameA1B2 yes I've always used wine in cooking for babies, the alcohol cooks off totally.

Tablespoon of soy sauce

Use good fat -and don't pour all of it away as this is where the taste is held.

Before cooking anything else, sear your meat (in a very very hot pan) till some of it is very dark brown. Deglaze the pan (with a bit of water or wine) afterwards and keep all that for adding with the stock later. Then cook onion etc.

Wine is also important in giving a dimension

Check for salt at the end and add more if needed.

If it's lean mince, don't drain anything off! That's where the flavour is. And really let the veg and mince brown at the start, and when you add the wine really scrape all the brown bits off the bottom of the pan. More flavour.

Wine, Worcester sauce, pancetta. Cook long and slow

You need pancetta, chicken livers, white wine, some milk, nutmeg.

Add salt, stock and sugar. If you want to keep it low salt, a gastric is good. Boil three or four tablespoons of red wine vinegar with a tablespoon of sugar until reduced by half then add with your tomatoes.

Stop draining off the fat. It adds flavour and mouthfeel.

Add wine. A classic ragu uses white wine (and milk) but if you prefer red, no harm done.

Really cook your mince and sofritto (onions, carrot, celery) first. A sofritto should take 20 - 30 minutes on a low heat before you add the browned mince and then everything else.

Cook the whole dish for hours. Ragu shouldn't take half an hour, it should take much longer. Add water, or preferably stock, to stop it drying out.

Don’t use low fat mince. I use half lamb and half beef mince with a few slices of smoked bacon chopped into the mix. It’s the fat that gives it flavour. Make your tomato based sauce for the bolognaise the day before to allow the flavours to mature and deepen - and add a teaspoon of redcurrant jelly to the sauce as this will improve the flavour of the tomatoes.

Keep the fat, bottle of red wine, pancetta, salt, pepper, always add a stock pot.

Leave the fat in the sauce and simmer at least 1 hour to intensify the flavour.

Add salt to the beef as you are frying it. Then when you have everything in and simmering taste it. Add salt little by little alternating with half a teaspoon of red wine vinegar until it wakes up.

Add the garlic with the onions at the start

Omg don’t put ketchup in your Bolognese

Ditto Worcester sauce 🙄

Passata,Worcester Sauce or Balsamic vinegar and a stock cube.

don't drain the fat. Fry the mince in the fat until it all cooks into the meat.

lots more salt than you think (I prefer to use salt than stock cubes personally)

A bit of bacon finely chopped helps

I like some oregano and a star anise in the sauce for the first hour of cooking (a la Heston) adds a nice aniseed/basil taste. But take it out after an hour or else it overwhelms.

Decent passata and plenty of garlic and then a good glug of red wine plus about 400ml water.

Finally you need to cook it for at least 3 hours on low if not more until all the excess liquid cooks off and the sauce is nice and mellow and cooked down into a lovely even texture. If you can tell what each element is in the sauce then it's not cooked enough

Needs pancetta, stock and wine. I always use Nigel Slater's recipe and it's delicious www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/spaghettibolognese_89200/amp

I add celery salt and a bay leaf . Tbs tomato purée

Beef stock and (surprisingly!!) a teaspoon or two of sugar to add sweetness to the tomatoes.

Why not? It's predominantly tomato, vinegar and sugar, all of which definitely have a place in a pasta sauce. It's also a store cupboard staple for most people so an easy, cheap shortcut.

@UsernameA1B2 the alcohol will burn off, but I use these now www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/289037439 cheaper than red wine.

What you have plus half a carton of passata (you can freeze the 2nd half), red wine stock pot, beef stock cube, double even treble the herbs, add a bay leaf, also no need to drain the fat. But the biggest key for me is how long are you simmering for? I have a frying pan that goes on the hob and into the oven so I do all the 1st bit, then add water and put it into the oven for a good hour. Even better if you can leave it on low heat for a few hours or over night.

Fat holds flavour. (You will notice that many low-fat versions of foods are high salt and sugar to compensate for missing fat out.)

Put your onions, carrot, celery, fresh tomatoes, in the oven on a baking sheet with a small amount of oil, spread your mince out on a tray, season & put in the oven, when you think it is done, give it an extra 5 minutes. Then put it all in a pan or slow cooker, add wine, stock cubes, garlic, herbs & seasoning including sugar to taste.