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Why is my bolognese so Bland? Any tips from good cooks?

325 replies

UsernameA1B2 · 21/06/2022 15:41

I fry onions, carrots, celery and lean beef mince in a pan. Drain off excess fat. Then add tinned tomatoes, tomatoe puree, pepper, garlic, and italian herbs and leave to simmer. It tastes quite bland, what I am doing wrong? Any advice?

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Thatboymum · 21/06/2022 15:56

I add a splash of lemon juice and a spoon of sugar into mine so brown the mince add onions and mushrooms add tomato Passata tomato purée garlic and salt then squeeze lemon and a spoon of sugar I can’t remember where I learned to put these two things in but it’s delicious

kerkyra · 21/06/2022 15:56

Add a jar of red pesto to make it extra richl

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 21/06/2022 15:57

Don’t drain off the fat if you’re only using 5%! Far is flavour.
Also red wine and lots of salt. Fresh herbs instead of dried too

Hyvsvaar · 21/06/2022 15:57

Gousto have a good recipe it has soy sauce and something else I substitute with Worcestershire sauce. It has a beef stock cube and tomato purée there recipes are available online

prettylittlethingss · 21/06/2022 15:57

Beef stock, red wine, fresh basil

restedbutexhausted · 21/06/2022 15:57

Lots of red wine, mushrooms might help, and I just let mine simmer for ages to really intensify the flavour.

Plutoisaplanet · 21/06/2022 15:58

Another vote for half pork and half beef.
lots of garlic
plenty herbs and cracked black pepper

Magenta82 · 21/06/2022 15:58

HesterShaw1 · 21/06/2022 15:43

You need a stock cube or salt as well.

Bit of sugar for the tomatoes. Maybe a splash of Worcester sauce or balsamic vinegar. Mushrooms?

I've never put carrots in Bolognese but maybe that's just me

The sweetness of the carrots means you need less or no sugar to bring out the tomatoes. I grate or blend them.

amicissimma · 21/06/2022 15:58

If you're giving it to a toddler it might be wise not to put much salt in.

But I second either a lo-o-ng slow cook - several hours - or leaving it in the fridge for a day or two. I don't find the second option gives quite such a good flavour, but it uses a lot less fuel.

DilemmaDelilah · 21/06/2022 15:58

I use a shed load of garlic puree, a serious load of oregano and some mixed herbs, and bovril to make it taste meaty and to add the salt (no other salt). I don't use carrots and celery but proper recipes have them in. You do need some fat in it to make it tasty - I have tried it with extra lean mince and it isn't nice. AND you need to reduce it down to a nice glop.... Nothing worse than runny bol!

dropthevipers · 21/06/2022 15:58

Like others have said-half pork, half beef. Dont drain the fat-that's were the taste is. How long are you simmering it for? Tastes of nothing after half an hour, but after four plus hours (on the lowest possible heat) it's a different animal altogether.

RevoltingHumanHead · 21/06/2022 15:59

Tbh the very best bolognese doesn't even use mince at all. Shin of beef or ox cheeks are what you need. But that takes a good 4 or 5 hours' to cook.

HeathenPlayingHouse · 21/06/2022 15:59

As mentioned above, a teaspoon of sugar balances the acidity of the tomatoes. But I really enjoy using a big spoonful of caramelised red onion chutney instead 😍

Indigokitten · 21/06/2022 15:59

Red wine and I also add red pesto to mine

KneeQuestion · 21/06/2022 15:59

Pork. Pork mince and beef mince.

do your sofrito (onion, carrot and celery)in a separate pan to the meat.

deglaze the meat pan after the mince is well browned. Add Worcestershire sauce or wine if you like.

season both the sofrito and the meat.
Salt,
pepper
herbs
nutmeg
allspice
bay leaf

add chopped tomatoes to the sofrito. Season again. Crushed garlic.

add the browned meat into the sofrito tomato sauce.

Add some water.

a spoonful of sugar.
splash of milk/Parmesan rind.

simmer or pressure cook.

WhiteHydrangeas · 21/06/2022 16:00

What PP said. Also add the tomato purée before the tinned tomatoes and fry it with the vegetables for several minutes. Then add the wine (not all at once, small gluggs, let it simmer down until all the liquid has evaporated before you add more).
Don't crowd the pan. Don't add all the mince at once and make sure it's a nice rich brown before you add the vegetables. Give the vegetables enough time to caramelise. Remove mince before frying the vegetables and add it back in later if you're making a larger portion / pan is quite full. Season the vegetables with salat and a bit sugar before adding the wine. I also like to add a hint of chili powder and keep all the fat from the meat (Bolognese isn't exactly diet food anyways).

DilemmaDelilah · 21/06/2022 16:00

And as @amicissimma says... Long slow cooking! My DH thinks you can make it in half an hour - you really cant!

Crankley · 21/06/2022 16:03

I don't cook this for myself as I don't like pasta but a friend of mine loves my bolognese sause so I cook spag bol when she comes to visit.

I grate carrots and celery on the finest setting and they just disappear and help thicken the sauce. Brown the mince and chopped onions, drain off some of the fat, I make a mugful of Bisto powder gravy and add when mince is browned. Then add a tin of chopped tomatoes, a glass of red wine, a few slugs of Worcestershire sauce, Knorr beef stock, and lots of salt and pepper. I then squeeze tomato paste five or six times into the pan and stir until fully integrated. This is essential, it really thickens the sauce.

It's then left to simmer on a low heat for about three hours. I usually check it every half an hour, give it a stir, taste it and add whatever I think it needs.

After three hours there will be zero alcohol left.

SmallPrawnEnergy · 21/06/2022 16:04

Mushrooms? Worcestershire Suauce? Ketchup? You know she asked for bolognese recipes? Not some hideous frankenrecipie

Picoloangel · 21/06/2022 16:06

I use a good tablespoon of red pesto, salt and pepper and ketchup.

MsOllie · 21/06/2022 16:06

This is pretty much the one I use but I add pancetta
https://www.greatitalianchefs.com/recipes/bolognese-ragu-recipe/amp

hellcatspangle · 21/06/2022 16:09

I would Chuck a glass of red wine in once it's fried off, simmer for minute or two then add the tomatoes. In addition I put a generous splashing of Worcester sauce and a crumbled beef oxo or two in.

Sunshine10012 · 21/06/2022 16:09

Don’t drain your mince as it’s already lean you need the flavour from the celery etc that at present you’re throwing away.
you need to cook the purée to get it sweeter, add stock and wine and some Worcester sauce.
cook for a long time too.

tulips27 · 21/06/2022 16:10

How many cloves of garlic? I would use at least 6 for a good flavour, and that's me cooking for 2 people max, so more for a larger amount.

hangrylady · 21/06/2022 16:11

UsernameA1B2 · 21/06/2022 15:46

Is it okay to use wine if serving to a toddler? I assume the alcohol burns off during cooking? Does that depend on how long its cooked for?

Absolutely fine. By the time it's cooked there won't be any trace of alcohol.