Roundabout who was in the wrong?

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I am new to driving but still think I was not in the wrong. If I am can someone explain why thanks. I have attached a diagram to explain. I am the blue car and the blue line shows the path I am taking. I was using my indicators. The orange car is the other car in questions and the orange line is the path they deciced to take. They did not indicate and I did not know they wanted to change lane on roundabout until I got on. When I got onto roundabout (the outer lane) the car decided to change to my lane (see the orange line going from inner lane to outer lane) then pip their horn and then speed past me after both exiting roundabout and give me the middle finger. I am wrong to have got into the lane indicated in diagram (the outer lane) on roundabout when that lane was clear and only the inner lane had a car in it. Thanks sorry if not clear.

Don't be ridiculous, as other PP's have quoted from the highway code, it's give way to the right. Not, give way if you think they're going round beyond your exit otherwise in some roundabouts people could never exit.

You are in the wrong as you did not give way to the right. Go learn your Highway Code

You were in the wrong. Always give way to the right on roundabouts, and if unsure wait until its clear and safe to proceed

The other thing I was taught by my instructor (over 20 years ago, but it holds) is 'indicators can lie but wheels can't'. He taught me to always check the direction of a car's wheels, not just the indicator. That way, if they don't indicate, or their indicator failed to cancel, or they change their mind, you're still ok.

You should not have entered the roundabout when it was not clear.
You have to assume that other people are a timely trying to kill you 😁

By the way OP, they shouldn't have been indicating until after you got on, so they were 100% in the right. They should have started indicating after the exit where you got on, and it's completely normal they wanted to switch lane to get off the roundabout. You basically drove out in front of them and then blocked them, and then were surprised they were angry that you nearly caused an accident.

You really need to stop driving until you've learned the rules of the road. This is basic stuff most people learn in the first few lessons.

This!

If you’ve had actual lessons (assuming so), how on earth can you think you were right? You always give way to traffic to your right on a roundabout. I’m really perplexed how you can think you were right. I learned about roundabouts on my second lesson!

You're wrong.

I know its hard to hear everyone saying you were wrong to pull out but I also think you should have waited.....a car not indicating is wrong and dangerous so you should ALWAYS wait...as frustrating as it is. They may have come from the very same exit they wanted to take (we all do this sometimes, and go full circle) so had every right to do as they did. I swear if everyone uses their indicators correctly there'd be a huge drop in accident. Don't let it bother you too much. Good luck with your driving and look out....there's some real selfish idiots out there.

Yes. Don't worry OP, you only really learn to drive once you pass your test. You know now for next time and no harm done.

Eh, no.

You should not be driving independently if you don't know how roundabouts work. Genuinely, you should not. I lost a family member, who was killed at just 47, leaving three teenagers behind, because of some dizzy idiot who pulled out when they didn't have right of way. It's not some 'ah tee hee, I know for next time' thing. OP should not be on the road. This time she got a middle finger and an angry beep. Next time she could kill someone.

in a word, yes. I regularly do the orange car manoeuvre and, because of people like you, stay in the outer lane until I’m certain inner line is clear. Too often drivers taking the blue route undertake me.
Excellent diagram!

Lane not line 🫢

Beeping the horn and speeding past you was probably an instinctive reaction by the other driver to warn you you were causing a real danger and then they speeded up to get out of that danger. I am in Ireland and our rules are the same as most people who quoted above, give way to the right. If you were driving on your own you must surely have passed the test so I'd be very worried you didn't know this simple rule. In virtually all cases you give way to the right, even say if you are turning into a main road and a car approaching has his indicator on seeming to indicate they are turning off the road - you cannot assume the indicator is indicating correctly. Give way to the right in UK or Ireland.

If I see a car to my right on a roundabout I wait and assume it's coming my way

I actually think they should have used the other lane, so I understand where your confusion lies. If I were the orange car, I'd of merged into the second lane so I think they were in the wrong, plus they didn't indicate, on that roundabout, you'd indicate to come off even if just going over.

But you don't need to if there are 2 exiting lanes...

Yes, you are being one. Unnecessarily unpleasant.

And I agree, I'd err on the side of caution if someone is coming from the right, whichever lane they are in. People indicate wrongly, don't indicate, change their mind last minute. Just not work the risk. But you'll know for next time. A lot of driving is about experience

How is driver on the roundabout to know there are 2 exit lanes if they are not familiar with the area. They would correctly be following standard driving rules of moving to the outer lane to exit. There is no question but you give way to the right whether there are 1 or 2 exits, or if they have used indicators or not.

I'm shocked by the unanimous verdict on this.

I drive defensively so would not have pulled out. However the Lane markings indicate the other car should use the outer lane to exit the roundabout, so OP would have been fine to do as she did.

Round here the lanes spiral round for you, so the inner lane eventually caries you across to the outer lane.

Round here, no one would ever get anywhere if you could only have one lane of traffic on a roundabout at a time.

Do you lot really not use roundabouts with several lanes of traffic going around them?

This is a good explanation of how to drive roundabouts

You look ahead. You look at the road markings. If the traffic is really heavy, you can see what the other cars are doing.

Wait for it to be clear to your right or you are blocking the potential exit they may want as they come round.

Indicating left on a roundabout usually suggests exiting so it would have been early for them to indicate. They should indicate to exit and change lane though. I find it's usually safest not to assume other drivers will indicate correctly because too many dont