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Roundabout who was in the wrong?

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UsernameA1B2 · 20/06/2022 17:53

I am new to driving but still think I was not in the wrong. If I am can someone explain why thanks. I have attached a diagram to explain. I am the blue car and the blue line shows the path I am taking. I was using my indicators. The orange car is the other car in questions and the orange line is the path they deciced to take. They did not indicate and I did not know they wanted to change lane on roundabout until I got on. When I got onto roundabout (the outer lane) the car decided to change to my lane (see the orange line going from inner lane to outer lane) then pip their horn and then speed past me after both exiting roundabout and give me the middle finger. I am wrong to have got into the lane indicated in diagram (the outer lane) on roundabout when that lane was clear and only the inner lane had a car in it. Thanks sorry if not clear.

Roundabout who was in the wrong?
OP posts:
cottagegardenflower · 20/06/2022 19:28

You give way to the right not matter what lane the car is. Many roundabouts don't have 'lanes' but are wide enough for this manoeuvre. Back to the Highway Code OP

Bollindger · 20/06/2022 19:29

I know this may seem odd to you, as you felt you had time to do your turn before the car was near you, but he was obviously traveling far faster than you realised,
it is better to not make your move till the car is past the turn, and you can safely make your turn , it is becasue your going from a stop to moving and that takes far longer in terms of time than you realise.
Count yourself lucky your not facing an insurance claim, and never make a move till your check twice that the roads are clear,

Tangled123 · 20/06/2022 19:32

Best piece of advice you can remember when driving is to expect the other driver to be an idiot.

If unsure were someone who has right of way is going, assume the worst and stop until they pass.
Plus, on of the big rules of roundabouts is to give way to anyone already on it.

You’re in the wrong here OP.

0blio · 20/06/2022 19:33

Mountainpika · 20/06/2022 18:09

Always drive as if everyone else is an idiot and someone who doesn't know what indicators are. (I passed my test in 1964)

My Dad said this to me when he taught me to drive and I've always remembered it.

namechange30455 · 20/06/2022 19:34

Was the orange car coming from the left hand side on your diagram?

If so, how else are they supposed to exit into that lane other than doing exactly what they did?

MajorCarolDanvers · 20/06/2022 19:34

You give way to the right.

You should not have entered the roundabout.

Skodacool · 20/06/2022 19:35

bakebeans · 20/06/2022 19:14

they Were in the wrong lane for heading straight ahead and given they were already on the roundabout they had right of way. Sorry op. They were in the right. You shouldn’t have pulled out. No excuse for their behaviour though

They came from the 9 o’clock position so were in the correct lane for exiting at 3 o’clock.

picklemewalnuts · 20/06/2022 19:35

namechange30455 · 20/06/2022 19:34

Was the orange car coming from the left hand side on your diagram?

If so, how else are they supposed to exit into that lane other than doing exactly what they did?

Using the second Lane. What do you think the second Lane is for?

MajorCarolDanvers · 20/06/2022 19:36

Excellent diagram btw

UnOeufIsEnough · 20/06/2022 19:36

I was taught to stick to my lane until exiting the roundabout. If I was orange car, I'd have stuck to the lane and exited in the outside lane then changed lanes afterwards.

Changing lanes in the middle of the roundabout makes them less efficient. I can see why the OP didn't anticipate the orange car changing lanes. If there was a single exit lane on the roundabout then the OP would have been wrong, but the fact there's two, the orange car didn't need to change lanes.

picklemewalnuts · 20/06/2022 19:39

So what's the Lane I've marked in yellow for, then? There's one on every exit. Waste of space if no one's going to use them.

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Supersee · 20/06/2022 19:39

Sympathies OP as I did exactly this on the weekend (unless this is a reverse!).

As they weren't indicating I thought they were remaining in the inside however they didn't. I should've absolutely waited until it was clear and I felt horrible and pretty stupid after. Lesson learned.

UnOeufIsEnough · 20/06/2022 19:41

picklemewalnuts · 20/06/2022 19:39

So what's the Lane I've marked in yellow for, then? There's one on every exit. Waste of space if no one's going to use them.

Exactly.

Clymene · 20/06/2022 19:43

picklemewalnuts · 20/06/2022 19:39

So what's the Lane I've marked in yellow for, then? There's one on every exit. Waste of space if no one's going to use them.

They might have been turning left after joining the new road. The road may have gone down to one lane. Or maybe they just made a mistake.

In any event, it's irrelevant. The OP pulled out in front of another vehicle and she was wrong.

UsernameA1B2 · 20/06/2022 19:43

picklemewalnuts The yellow arrow in your diagram is the direction I assumed they would take if coming off the roundabout as there is plenty of time to change lanes on exit dual carriageway.
Lesson learnt I won't make that assumption or mistake again I will make sure both lanes are clear on the right of roundabout and not make assumptions again like that.

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CheapFoodShits · 20/06/2022 19:43

You're in the wrong. They were already on the roundabout, in the right hand lane, meaning their exit was past the 12 o'clock position when they came onto the roundabout. They weren't changing lanes on the roundabout, they were coming off at their exit. Chances are their right indicator had switched itself off mid-way round. Yes, ideally they should have indicated to come off but you shouldn't have assumed that no indication means you can go.

MoodyTwo · 20/06/2022 19:43

You were wrong, you give way from your right
And indicator is just that, an indication ... you don't have to do it.

Stevienickssnickers · 20/06/2022 19:47

Yeah you were very wrong. What do you think that lane is for? Whizzing round till you feel dizzy?

There's a roundabout near me where you can go left, straight on and right from the left hand lane and straight on and right from the right hand one. Please don't visit.

UnOeufIsEnough · 20/06/2022 19:49

Stevienickssnickers · 20/06/2022 19:47

Yeah you were very wrong. What do you think that lane is for? Whizzing round till you feel dizzy?

There's a roundabout near me where you can go left, straight on and right from the left hand lane and straight on and right from the right hand one. Please don't visit.

How unnecessarily rude.

Alwayswonderedwhy · 20/06/2022 19:51

You were in the wrong. You shouldn't pull if it's not clear. The other car had to change lanes to exit the roundabout.

SugarNspices · 20/06/2022 19:52

Even though they should of been more clear where they where going you should never risk coming out to a car on you right of the round about, make sure it's clear to your right before pulling out

Nellodee · 20/06/2022 19:54

I've been the car in orange before, and been parped at. Now, I make sure that if I start on the outside lane, I exit on the outside lane, as its safer and avoids any confusion. It may not be the law, but it prevents accidents. I promise you, you are not alone in your interpretation.

gamerchick · 20/06/2022 19:55

Lougle · 20/06/2022 18:34

The other thing I was taught by my instructor (over 20 years ago, but it holds) is 'indicators can lie but wheels can't'. He taught me to always check the direction of a car's wheels, not just the indicator. That way, if they don't indicate, or their indicator failed to cancel, or they change their mind, you're still ok.

Yeah I don't trust indicators much. I'd rather be sure than assume.

FunDragon · 20/06/2022 19:56

UnOeufIsEnough · 20/06/2022 19:36

I was taught to stick to my lane until exiting the roundabout. If I was orange car, I'd have stuck to the lane and exited in the outside lane then changed lanes afterwards.

Changing lanes in the middle of the roundabout makes them less efficient. I can see why the OP didn't anticipate the orange car changing lanes. If there was a single exit lane on the roundabout then the OP would have been wrong, but the fact there's two, the orange car didn't need to change lanes.

This is what I was taught too - if there’s two lanes leaving a roundabout, leave in the same lane you went round it on, and change lanes afterwards if you need to. So I can see why OP was confused because changing lanes whilst on a roundabout without indicating is an odd manoeuvre.

SnackSizeRaisin · 20/06/2022 19:56

picklemewalnuts · 20/06/2022 19:39

So what's the Lane I've marked in yellow for, then? There's one on every exit. Waste of space if no one's going to use them.

People do use them. Just this particular car didn't. Maybe they were turning left soon after the roundabout, who knows.