What is with these fragile men?

[PashunFroot]

Went through a drive thru this evening, ordered at the speaker and then pulled forward as much as I could but as it was rammed I couldn’t pull forward anymore.

omg the tantrum that the tiny dicked Mercedes man had behind me. Screaming “you fucking cunt!” “I’ll smash your head you fucking whore!” Etc while aggressively slamming forwards as if he was going to ram the back of my car. I just laughed at him in my mirror which made him even angrier but Jesus Christ I’ve never seen anything like it! The men in the van next to us were also laughing at him and out of spite I just sat and let the next 3 cars go ahead of me.

What actually is wrong with people. I guarantee if I was a man, or had my hangry husband with me he wouldnt have done any of those things to me.

Because I had my kids with me I felt like I then couldn’t go and park up invade he approached the car. All that over not being able to a bloody burger straight away.

I'm actually horrified by this and that the van full of builders didn't intervene or have words with him. He was clearly threatening you. Also, he was being very discriminatory. If he had shouted out racist slurs, he would have been reported. Why then is it ok for him to threaten a woman and call her a c* or a whore! I would have asked McDonald's for CCTV footage of the car and reported him, or at the very least, informed the person serving you and asked them to fetch the manager. Hopefully then they would have refused to have served him.

I would not describe such men as fragile, I'd just ban them driving for a very long time. They are people you would never give a gun licence to, and so should not be driving.

People like that must be terrifying to live with.

Some men are just absolute wankers behind the wheel. And yes, they do seem to target women.

Years ago I nearly got rammed into on a roundabout by an idiot who just joined without looking and damn near hit me.
I pipped my horn, half 'hey I'm here' and half just reaction I think.

Anyway, come off the roundabout and sat in traffic and some absolute bellend of a man (random man not the driver who entered a roundabout without looking directly into the path of a car (me) already in the roundabout) decided to try to tell at me how I was at fault by, well I really don't understand at all. I was in the roundabout and daft driver just drove into it without stopping

I think in his mind I was at fault for driving while female tbh.

So I said to angry man "I don't care what you think about anything" (slight snotty emphasis on the 'you' because I decided to be a bitch) and I wound my window up.

I thought his head was going to explode 🤣

An angry man screamed at me from his car yesterday as well. Road rage at its finest... Am going to set the scene so bear with me!
I was driving along a rural private road - narrow to the point that there are no white lines anywhere.I drive it quite regularly & there are soft verges that you drive on at your peril so there are specially made passing points.
There are signs that say 20mph limit & there are clearly signed speed bumps so I take them at around 5-10mph as they are pretty vicious.
I drive it to visit my Mum's care home but there are also houses there so I appreciate they drive it more frequently that me.
I was coming up to a speed bump so had slowed right down & there was car barrelling towards me - his car had made a delightful sound as it flew over the earlier speed bump.
I continue to take the speed bump gently then pulled into the passing area on my side. It was the nearest one for both of us & there was no-one near behind me to reverse into.
He drives quite close to me, winds his window down & starts hurling abuse about how I should've let him pass even though it wasn't possible. I had my window shut, doors locked & the aircon on but could still hear every word.
Like the OP I doubt he would have behaved this way if I'd been a man. He was red in the face, apoplectic, a heart attack waiting to happen. There was no other way for us to pass so no need at all for that behaviour!
I did so wish I was a 6ft 4 body builder that could've forcibly pulled the bloody scrote out of his open window & given him a scare...

I agree he sounds like a giant twat but I don't think it's a sign of fragile masculinity at all.

But I do think you could potentially argue it's a sign of toxic masculinity. The two aren't the same thing, even though it sounds like an argument over semantics.

He was aggressive to you from the start, even before you became confrontational - that's why I'd say it was toxic masculinity rather than fragile masculinity. That initial explosiveness and aggression without any challenge from you is the thing that defines it as toxic rather than fragile.

Or just call him an aggressive male Marc-driving twat. That also works.

Next time, get your phone out and film him. People tend to behave better if they fear global humiliation on on social media.

I had a young lad tailgating me erratically,chasing me down a few streets just because he was parked diagonally and I couldn't pass so I had asked him to move.Prick

How unpleasant for you op. I don't think thisis indiciative of most men and am always a bit shaken when I encounter one. Had one the other day as I was edging out of a petrol station, no visibility for cars from my right who were also coming from a 60 mph limit to a 30 mph zone. Huge haulage type truck came charging along way too fast as I edged out and the abuse I got from him with my kids in the car was disgusting including gesticulating that I was wanker, driving his huge truck over the speed limit towards a roundabout whilst not looking at the road ahead at all as he was too preoccupied with me as well as a torrent of abuse out of the open window. I wasn't even out far enough to be in his way (I drive a lot and am more than able to recognise and admit when I've made the error). I wish I'd had a dash cam to be able to report him. Any chance of cctv footage from the drive through op?

Me and my dc now do like the Penguins of Madagascar....'smile and wave boys, smile and wave' and if this makes them more irate, we blow them a kiss for good measure.

I've only had the misfortune to meet one of these deranged males whilst on my own and actually found it quite scary. In my case it didn't involve a burger it was just a case of having to give way and reverse in a road full of parked cars where all the 'Keep Clear' bays had been parked on (daily occurance on that road). It was my right of way and I actually had nowhere to go but the angry man actually drove towards me and made contact with my car trying to push it back! He also had false number plates on (I discovered afterwards).

I always assume that people who behave like this must be on drugs.

Honestly never occurred to me to report him. I live in quite a rough area so I guess this is just quite normal to me!

This is why I have a dash cam. Happened to me as a young ish woman but I come from a long like of woman who have explosive tempers (not something I’m proud of and I work hard to keep it in check) so when he jumped out the car (in traffic) to scream at me I jumped out too and got face to face. Only calmed down when his wife begged him to leave it. Anyway he was police so I was arrested that evening for leaving the scene of an accident. But long line of angry women won’t be intimidated so it was dropped (always would have been but was meant to intimidate when it just enraged).
so the minute dash cams became a thing I got one. A huge obvious one. When that kind of shit starts I each over and click it and they magically stop. Which is weird because it’s always recording so I don’t actually do anything.

He would have done it if you were a man. I see far more men screaming at, physically fighting with and damaging vehicles owned by other men in road rage incidents than men doing the same to women.

In similar vein I’ve had mothers with children sounding the horn, giving the finger and shouting abuse at me for letting 2 cars out in front of me when trying to leave a supermarket at an extremely busy time (took about 20 mins to get to the main road). So it’s swings and roundabouts and clearly there are nasty, angry twats of both genders.

Good on you holding your ground.

Always love those 'instant karma' videos of road raging men who crash their car immediately after abusing some poor sod.

This is really interesting.

I was on a work course the other day and one of the men (didn't know him, seemed like a mild and pleasant enough chap) was telling us about his DD having apparently been cyber bullied by a neighbour's DC. DCs are about 10 for context. Think the cyber bullying involved a text saying I don't like you or similar.

He was telling us about how he went round all guns blazing and was "shaking" with rage and a big row ensued with the parents and child perpetrator. We were all nodding and smiling but I thought WTF is it with men and their temper?

This is exactly reflected in your incident OP. It's dangerous and worrying. No wonder men are keeling over in the 50s and 60s with heart attacks as this kind of rage over minutiae really is not healthy.

My husband works with a really angry awful man who has had 2 heart attacks already and he’s 32!

It must be exhausting to be getting that angry all the time not to mention unhealthy. I mean I've had phases associated with sleep deprivation where I've not coped with minor annoyances well but more of a panic response than an angry one and it's not something anyone can live with long term.

I would have reported this to the police. It is not funny it is abusive.

I once had a similar incident when dh had parked the car at the services. I’d gone back with the kids while dh was getting a coffee and a horrid man had parked really close to me so I couldn’t load the (very small) kids in one side. There were loads of spots and he could have parked anywhere else.

I asked politely if he could back out for a minute so I could load one of the dc in the right side. He started an utter tirade about my parking and how just because I had a big car it didn’t mean I owned the road. I ignored and loaded frightened dc into the car at the other side - great fun when they were both in car seats, I can tell you - telling them not to worry the man was just being silly etc. Then I climbed over the drivers seat into the passenger seat next to ‘silly man’ who was still shouting while I looked away and chatted with the kids.

Funnily enough when dh appeared he decided to move to another spot sharpish. I wasn’t going to say anything to dh as I knew he would get involved and it wasn’t worth it, but ds immediately started spouting off about the silly man shouting at mummy. Dh went and had a polite word - nothing threatening, he apparently just discussed the wrongs of shouting abuse at lone women with their small dc and I have never seen a man look so terrified. They are just bullies picking on people they think won’t fight back.

Where are you all living where people are doing this at drive thrus and supermarkets?!!

I live in an area where people seem to go looking for trouble all the time and I've never seen behaviour like this - shocked!

I would have filmed it and phoned the police.

You know it’s a typo for ‘you’re’.

Or roid rage. A lot of young men are juiced up to the eyeballs.

I've had this too, stuck in traffic. An abusive motorcyclist even rammed my car once and sped off. What is it with angry men!