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What is with these fragile men?

150 replies

PashunFroot · 17/06/2022 19:31

Went through a drive thru this evening, ordered at the speaker and then pulled forward as much as I could but as it was rammed I couldn’t pull forward anymore.

omg the tantrum that the tiny dicked Mercedes man had behind me. Screaming “you fucking cunt!” “I’ll smash your head you fucking whore!” Etc while aggressively slamming forwards as if he was going to ram the back of my car. I just laughed at him in my mirror which made him even angrier but Jesus Christ I’ve never seen anything like it! The men in the van next to us were also laughing at him and out of spite I just sat and let the next 3 cars go ahead of me.

What actually is wrong with people. I guarantee if I was a man, or had my hangry husband with me he wouldnt have done any of those things to me.

Because I had my kids with me I felt like I then couldn’t go and park up invade he approached the car. All that over not being able to a bloody burger straight away.

OP posts:
PashunFroot · 17/06/2022 22:43

Sssh I’m an Audi wanker 🥲

OP posts:
pixie5121 · 17/06/2022 22:48

I swear men have become much worse bullies since the pandemic.

I was walking home today and some absolute tool in a white van was screaming and honking at the poor woman in front because she wouldn't pull out onto the main road until there was a safe gap. There was literally traffic coming at 40mph and this cunt was bullying her into putting herself in danger. She looked so frazzled, poor woman. I wish now i'd taken his numberplate down and reported the cunt.

allboysherebutme · 17/06/2022 23:00

You should have took his registration and called the police, I'd have called them and laid it on really thick and said I was frightened. X

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 17/06/2022 23:22

That actually sounds terrifying, OP. McD's has CCTV, don't they?

beachbumlife · 18/06/2022 03:25

Borgonzola · 17/06/2022 20:44

It's always bloody Mercedes drivers. I've aired my feelings about them before and had offended Merc berks say that it's not true but every time I've ever been tailgated, cut up, honked at for not pulling away from 0-30 in less than a second, driven at aggressively, overtaken needlessly, or any other stupid offence, it is 9 times out of 10 a Mercedes driver

It is almost always a German car driven by a man ! and i say that as a driver of a german car.

steff13 · 18/06/2022 03:28

SofiaSoFar · 17/06/2022 20:12

Her what?

Hazard lights

beachbumlife · 18/06/2022 03:28

Mercs, Audis, BMW's. I make a point to look now and it's almost always the case. It's fascinating.

Porridgeislife · 18/06/2022 03:53

beachbumlife · 18/06/2022 03:25

It is almost always a German car driven by a man ! and i say that as a driver of a german car.

Down here it seems to have a near perfect correlation with Range Rover drivers. DH & I have a private joke that “so and so optioned the c* pack when they ordered their car” which seems to remove the indicators, lane guidance, safe following distance warnings and understates the speed on their speedo.

I do drive an absolute wanker car (BMW SUV) but the really astonishing behaviour around here seems to be always Range Rovers. Having said that, I was aggressively tailgated down the M40 in very heavy traffic by a Mercedes GLS yesterday!

DontBlameMe79 · 18/06/2022 03:58

To me this sounds like meth at work unfortunately. Best to stay calm and get away as quickly as possible as there is no rationality to their actions. It’s not a make or female thing either, women on meth are also scary.

Munchiesareyum · 18/06/2022 03:59

Reminds me of a guy who sided up by me to roll down his window and scream at me for stopping at an amber light cos "he could have made it and as I stopped he could have went into the back of me" I calmly told him I wasn't in the wrong, he continued to scream till my partner (who was stewing in the back) rolled down his window screaming his head off not to speak to me like that or to get our the f*in car!!" The big brave man shouting at me quickly rolled his window back up and went as quiet as a mouse!

Isaidnoalready · 18/06/2022 04:48

I turned left at an island and drove past a queue of traffic 5/6 cars back a guy waiting in the queue screams at me "use your indicator!" I mean I had clicked it off by then and why does it make a difference to him? He still can't get out

Got overtaken by a van on an island then cut up by the same van as he needed to be in my lane (slightly complicated but he overtook me then left the lane then got BACK in the lane cutting me up again) that one I complained to his company about they said that's not what happened I asked if they had a dash cam? No had they spoken to them? No they just knew that it didn't happen....umm OK then

PlentyOFool · 18/06/2022 04:54

I was in a similar situation in a drive through a few weeks ago, but it was a woman - with little kids in the car. It was so completely disproportionate to what had happened, I was almost wondering if I'd been pranked (I had joined the queue from a lane which hadn't previously been allowed but had recently been reinstated - she hadn't got the memo).

She was screaming from behind her dashboard, face all contorted with rage, her kids looked terrified and then she attempted to push my car out of the way with hers. Even though I'd pulled to the side a bit so she could go first. It was mad. I had to look her dead in the eyes and make some calming hand gestures mouthing "ok, ok calm down, calm down, ok?"

The real question is why would anyone let themselves be that upset about 3 more minutes in a drive thru? I honesty bet she wouldn't even have recognised herself if she'd seen the dash cam footage

mnnewbie111 · 18/06/2022 06:20

beachbumlife · 18/06/2022 03:28

Mercs, Audis, BMW's. I make a point to look now and it's almost always the case. It's fascinating.

I have an Audi. I'm not a great driver but I am a considerate one and not a road raging dick head

sst1234 · 18/06/2022 07:29

MinorWomensWhiplash1 · 17/06/2022 20:20

What a prick. I would have taken down the number plate and reported him for verbal assault.

To who?

liveforsummer · 18/06/2022 07:40

Her what?

@SofiaSoFar - hazards ie hazard warning lights!

Driving really does bring out the worst in already angry men. Most of my experiences with male rage has been when driving and I'm a very good and careful driver. Last time was when I'd waited patiently and let about 20 oncoming cars through a part of the road where only one car can pass due to cars being parked on either side. It's usually not so busy but was being used as a diversion due to roadworks on the main road. Eventually there was a gap where no oncoming car was waiting although one was approaching so I took my turn. I was at least half way down when approaching car got to where he had to stop and from there I coins see him wildly gesturing, lurching car forward and by the time I got level with him he looked purple. He wound down his window and let go so much abuse and expletives. I too laughed. Like wtf. Again I bet he wouldn't have said a word to a man in the same situation

WhatNoRaisins · 18/06/2022 07:40

I just wonder do these men actually see their behaviour as normal or do they have that niggling feeling that they need to get help?

Mally100 · 18/06/2022 07:44

PinkSyCo · 17/06/2022 20:49

Fragile? The bloke sounds like an an abusive lunatic more like and, while I’m all for sticking up for myself, I think you were bloody stupid to purposefully antagonise him when you had your kids in the car with you.

Exactly!! Nothing funny or heroic in what you did. You behaved like an idiot and this type of road rage is very dangerous. I know of someone who was viciously beaten in something similar to this. Bloody stupid of you.b

Fairislefandango · 18/06/2022 07:48

I had this the other day with a BMW driver. The man was behaving just like you describe. I was driving at the speed limit (40) with several other cars in front of me. I could see him in my rear view mirror, shouting and gesticulating aggressively. He kept accelerating right up to me and pulling back. Behaviour ramped up when we stopped at traffic lights. He looked deranged. There was literally no reason for it - everyone was going at a perfectly normal speed etc. What is wrong with these men?!

Herja · 18/06/2022 08:06

My ex could be like this - only in the car or to me though, never in general public, unless in the car. Generally, he was the perfect MC man in public; framed commendations from the local police and everything. Definitely no meths come down! Just toddler tantrums with the full force of a strong, angry man. Used to terrify me.

He tried it a few months ago on me and I found my rage at last. Had him literally crying in the corner on his knees when I was done (all verbal obviously). I genuinely think it was the first time anyone had ever argued back properly.

He drives a Merc too. Obviously.

KilmordenCastle · 18/06/2022 08:11

Yesterday I was on a dual carriageway in the right lane overtaking a few cars and I came up behind a car that was going 60mph. It's annoying but what can you do 🤷‍♀️ I kept a safe distance and waited for him to pull over into the left lane.

The guy behind me in a blue BMW drove so far up my arse and I could see in my mirror that he was angry, saying God knows what. He knew there was a slow car in front of me so what was he expecting me to do? I think he was pissed off that I didn't either put pressure on the car in front to move over or move over myself so that he could do it.

It only took half a minute or so for the car in front to move over then I went up to 70mph and overtook it. Crazy guy behind hung back, moved over and took the next exit. What a pointless waste of his energy to get angry.

Some men are just complete dick heads behind the wheel.

NewtoHolland · 18/06/2022 08:16

I had one of these behind me on a traffic jam yesterday. Absolutely loosing his shit because I was waiting to turn right and he wanted me to turn left so he could go quicker ..but that wasn't the way I needed to go. Screaming honking. Sad really. Of course I had considered going left but his behaviour meant I decided to keep with right.

Herja · 18/06/2022 08:25

WhatNoRaisins · 18/06/2022 07:40

I just wonder do these men actually see their behaviour as normal or do they have that niggling feeling that they need to get help?

Ex not only thought it was normal, but that the only issue was other people's 'shit' (safe. He's a scary driver) driving and me being annoying.

bumblingbovine49 · 18/06/2022 08:31

pixie5121 · 17/06/2022 22:48

I swear men have become much worse bullies since the pandemic.

I was walking home today and some absolute tool in a white van was screaming and honking at the poor woman in front because she wouldn't pull out onto the main road until there was a safe gap. There was literally traffic coming at 40mph and this cunt was bullying her into putting herself in danger. She looked so frazzled, poor woman. I wish now i'd taken his numberplate down and reported the cunt.

This sort of thing is not new . It happened to me when I was in my 20s - (30 years ago). I too had the fight rather than flight gene I'm afraid so I very calmly got out of the car and said icily that since he couldn't see the road as well as I could, he should stop beeping . I told him the decision about whether to pull out was mine , he could have his turn to decide when he got to the give way line and that I wasn't going to risk my life and that of others on the road just because he was impatient.

Of course he just got more annoyed and said I was a shit driver or something to that effect which I ignored but I took my time pulling out anyway . I do remember thinking I had taken a risk as I got back in the car but I just saw red and am ashamed to say I stuck a finger out of the window at him as I eventually pulled away😳

Nowadays, older and wiser, I would just ignore it completely but I was young and impulsive then. Some drivers really are dicks

DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 18/06/2022 08:32

I agree it's a sign of a fragile man. So fragile he can't cope with any challenge and reacts with anger and aggression. Unfortunately there is a very real physical threat to others when that happens.
It can be very funny though depending on the situation, particularly if you get instant karma. Mostly I find it sad that someone is so damaged and stressed that it manifests in such behaviour.

Toddlerteaplease · 18/06/2022 08:38

Good for you OP. I wouldn't have had the guts to let anyone else go infront. Incase he got really nasty.

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